How Can You Help?

To begin with, I want to thank you once again for the support you’ve already given us, for your encouragement, engagement, and willingness to ask the questions most do not. 

I’m not going to lie; this case is tricky, and we’ve done our best to break it all down and put it back together in the only way that makes sense. We try our best not to tell you what to think, but we have given you the tools to take what we’ve said and look at the case with fresh eyes, helping to peel back nearly forty years of deliberate misinformation/disinformation and analyse whether the narrative you’ve been sold is credible. 

I realise it’s not easy.

As you know, we don’t collaborate. We have “allies,” other researchers whose work we also support. In this instance, the people at the Dahmer Analysis and the Substack account, Questioning the Night Stalker Case, inspired this post.


2022 and Beyond

When I created this blog in 2022, I did so out of desperation because no one was asking questions about the glaringly obvious holes in the case; no one was conversing about the serious stuff.  

Three years later, we’ve written well over 100 articles, the book is out, and there is at least one other blog, the aforementioned, fabulous and scathing blogger over on Substack, and the YouTuber who goes by the name SataysandMash (If you’re out there, please tell me why you’re called that!)  I’ve also come across a couple of articles on Medium written by someone who has clearly read our work. There was also a Tumblr account (now removed) held by someone who comments here, and another follower of ours regularly gets her TikTok accounts banned as she tries to spread information.  Occasionally, amongst the usual nonsensical YouTube comments, we see moments of lucidity, but they are few and far between.

Yet there are thousands of edits with endless comments gushing about cheekbones and hair from adoring “fans”, and countless videos on YouTube from supposed “experts”, all full of disinformation. Then there are the “body language experts”, falling over each other to diagnose, analyse and make unfounded observations based on (as we know) heavily edited footage, with not one of them ever stopping to wonder why Richard Ramirez’s psychiatric reports have been suppressed and unacknowledged or to consider that the footage they’re viewing is cobbled together, purposely omitting the film sequences that show him in a decidedly “human” manner.

Alongside the atrocious Netflix documentary came a deluge of Carrillo appearances on multiple podcasts, where the script is static, the questions are few, and no one dares to stray from the path.
Well, we dared.


Here’s Where You Come In

Often, you ask us, “How can we help?  What can we do?”   Well, there are things you can do, and I will explain.

The researchers from the Dahmer case (I am paraphrasing) said that if just ten people make ten comments on videos spreading false information, in this instance about Richard Ramirez, think how quickly that information might spread.

This is what we tend to do ourselves; we don’t engage on YouTube, and we usually drop an info-bomb and leave them to it.   Otherwise, you’re left with the predictable “Get help!” or some other derogatory nonsense, which isn’t worth the energy, and very often, comments get removed, but at least we’ve tried.  I also recommend turning off notifications. I do because I have no intention of returning to argue with some “gore boy” who doesn’t know the facts.

Equally, in-depth conversations with Ramirez fangirls are pointless; most don’t seem to care about the trial, and many enjoy the thought of his guilt, which is disgusting.  Raising these topics can be very difficult because of those issues.  We all get tarred with the hybristophilliac brush, and we’re not here to talk about his looks.

I have often said to never engage in battles in comment sections; it’s pointless and can lead to severe feelings of anxiety or stress (judging by what some of you have told me). I still hold to that, and we don’t advocate starting a comment section war, but sometimes one comment can sow a seed in an enquiring mind.  After all, isn’t that why we’re all here? Something piqued your interest at some point along this road, and you found us.  Who knows? You might even inspire someone to do their own research.


Things You Could Say

YouTube is particularly problematic, as it automatically filters out certain words, phrases, and links. So don’t post links to the 2008 petition or blogs; they will disappear immediately.

Instead, type “Richard Ramirez vs Robert L Ayres, Document 14″, leaving out any mention of Plainsite, as I suspect that gets flagged. If you want to send people to us, type the words Expendable For a Cause, not our web address, and don’t write the word “blog”, as it triggers automatic removal.   

 You can also use this list as a template.

When Carrillo or anyone else is going on about “stained, gapped teeth”, you could say:

  • The only victim to mention stained, gapped teeth was Somkid Khovananth in July 85. No one else.
  • Carol Kyle said his teeth were straight and white, and police artists even drew a new sketch to highlight the nice teeth.
  • Sakina Abowath first told police that her attacker had “wide teeth with no gaps” but changed her story after subsequent police interviews when she was asked IF he had gapped teeth.

When Carrillo talks about the “unique” Avias: model 440:

  • Many shoeprints were inconclusive at crime scenes. In 2004, a forensic scientist named Lisa DiMeo, who specialised in shoeprints, blood spatter, and tyre tread patterns debunked the “rare shoe” argument. 13 different Avia models could have made some prints, putting tens of thousands of shoes in the frame.
  • There’s no proof that the killer wore black shoes (being black made them rare in size 11.5). But the “man in black” is a myth because victims didn’t all say he wore black.
  • The shoes were model 445B, not 440. 440s were women’s sneakers.
  • The prosecution’s defence expert (who wasn’t trained at the time) gave the jury false and misleading evidence, and in the case of Mary Louise Cannon, “mocked up” a shoe print by taping a clear overlay of a Avia print onto a photograph of a piece of carpet.
  • The shoes were not new in 1985; they were initially released in 1981, and there are old advertisements and posters to prove it.
  • There is no evidence that Richard threw the sneakers off the Golden Gate Bridge.
  • Diane Feinstein’s press conference, where she revealed the “unique” shoes, went out on 23rd August, but the Stadia shoes (if that is indeed what they were) had already been found at the Abowath crime scene on 8th August. Her revelation did not cause a change in brand.

When ballistics are mentioned and lied about:

  • No firearms connected to any Night Stalker crime were found in Richard’s possession.
  • The Jennings .22 semi-automatic said to have been used in the Doi incident, was given to the police by informant Jesse Perez. Perez initially told police he had been sold the weapon 6 to 9 months before the murder of William Doi.
  • Prosecutor Philip Halpin knowingly allowed bad witnesses to give false and misleading information.
  • The Jennings .22 was conveniently lost before the trial started.
  • The original ballistics report done in 1985 showed that the expended bullets and fragments were too distorted for reliable comparison. Two firearms officers concerned could not agree with each other or the prosecution and were not called to testify.
  • The third firearms officer, Edward Robinson, tested the evidence in 86 and followed the prosecution’s contrived theory to link unrelated crimes.
  • Prosecutor Halpin defied a court order to bring in the original firearms officer, Robert Christansen, so he could be questioned by Richard’s defence. He did not want his case tested.
  • Renowned firearms expert Paul Dougherty, who was retained for Ramirez’s appeals, stated that the ballistics evidence was faulty and unreliable and should all be retested.

Child abductions:

  • The original 1985 newspaper reports said the suspect was 5’9″, had a medium build, and had blonde or mousey brown hair – nothing like Richard. Law enforcement gave them that information.
  • Anastasia, the little girl from the Netflix documentary, described a short man with a Native American headdress tattooed on his arm. Richard had no such tattoo.
  • There were multiple abductors in the Los Angeles area at the time, and it had nothing to do with Richard.
  • Carrillo is being “economical” with the truth when he says the children all described a man with “stained, gapped teeth, tall, thin, light-skinned Hispanic and a pungent odour.” Why did the newspapers describe an average, fair-haired man if this was the case? After all, the police gave them the information.
  • During the initial child abduction cases, the affected children and an adult witness provided consistent descriptions of the same individual. 5ft9, mousey blonde/dirty blonde hair. The age was given as around 30 to 35 years old.

The murder of Mei Leung, the DNA and the Handkerchief – generally a “go-to” argument when they can’t think of anything else.

  • The DNA was a mixed sample; they knew that in 2009.
  • They got a hit on a second suspect in 2012 but kept it hidden until it was leaked to the press in 2016.  The second suspect’s name has not been released.
  • Mixed samples are notoriously hard to separate. With millions of alleles combined within a test tube, it is challenging to determine which allele belongs to which individual.
  • The San Francisco Police Department’s crime lab was closed because of malpractice and incompetence. This was during the time Ramirez’s supposed DNA was discovered, and those people were directly involved in the scandal.
  • The cold case unit was created in 2007 to essentially pin more crimes on Ramirez, who just so happened to have appeals being processed.
  • The original suspect in the case was said to be white, round-faced, around 5ft 10 in height, and with light brown hair.
  • The “Satanic” aspect of Mei’s murder was a later 2009 addition.  

Did the Night Stalker wear black?

  • In short, no.
  • Somkid Khovananth said the killer wore a blue shirt with a multicoloured pattern.
  • Carol Kyle said he wore a tan and black plaid shirt.
  • The witness to the Yu murder said he wore light blue pants and a light blue shirt.
  • Maria Hernandez said he wore a white shirt under his black jacket.
  • And if you see Carrillo saying that all victims described a man in a “Members Only type jacket”, say that it was only Maria Hernandez. No one else said this. It’s in the crime reports.  You could also say that Maria also described a man with facial hair, a moustache is shown on the police sketch she helped to create.

When Richard Ramirez is wrongly called a psychopath:

  • During his life, eleven psychiatrists/doctors evaluated him and found he had frontal and temporal lobe damage.
  • His epilepsy, left untreated, resulted in psychosis.
  • He was also the victim of emotional and physical trauma and suffered more head injuries than people realise.
  • He had a low IQ. It was between 86 and 91, contrary to the popular narrative. This is also in court documents. The clever, manipulative killer is all part of the myth.

Witnesses – why did they identify him?

  • The eyewitnesses were coached before a rigged lineup.
  • They were allowed to mingle and swap notes and could see and hear who each was identifying.
  • Public defenders saw deputies signalling with a hand to two different groups, including children, prompting them who to choose.  
  • They were also told that the Night Stalker would be at the lineup; this was after they had all been exposed to the media saturation of his image, while the mayor and the police proclaimed his guilt.
  • Tell them to go to the police reports in the court documents and read them themselves.
  • Video footage and stills exist to show what happened.

Fingerprints.

  • Contrary to what you’ve heard, Ramirez’s fingerprints were never independently verified.
  • Police did not feed his prints into the new database, they input his name only, which brought up eight results.
  • The only things they ever conclusively proved that he touched were his own belongings found in his car.
  • The US government refused permission for the fingerprint expert Ron Smith, retained by his Habeas lawyers, to examine the fingerprint evidence for his appeals. If there was nothing to hide, why?

Serology:

  • No semen belonging to Richard Ramirez was found in any incident he was convicted of.
  • Semen left inside Sakina Abowath was found not to be Richard’s.
  • No hair that belonged to him was found.
  • Blood found at two crime scenes was found to not belong to either the victim concerned or Ramirez.
  • Interestingly, the prosecution never used any results of the rape-test kits in evidence at all.

Pentagrams?

  • It is a myth that Richard Ramirez left pentagrams on every victim or in their homes as a “calling card”.
  • Two crime scenes had pentagrams – Bell and Lang in the  Los Angeles crimes and the Pan incident in San Francisco.

Attorneys:

  • Richard had the most incompetent lawyers known to man.
  • They practically abandoned him to his fate once they realised no book/film deal was coming.
  • Because of their failings, the prosecution’s case was never vigorously tested.

But he confessed!

  • No recordings of any confessions have ever been released.
  • At the hearing, Judge Nelson said there was “…no evidence anywhere that he ever confessed.”
  • Police incompetence suggests that not even notes were made.

The crimes stopped after his arrest:

  • No they didn’t.
  • The only difference was media reporting and public perception because of it.

That is not an exhaustive list, but it is an “exhausted me”, so that’s all I can think of for now.  Many more instances can be used, but those are probably the easiest to fire off, although there is so much more to the case than all of the above.

 Again, I am not advocating for you to get yourselves into arguments with people who haven’t researched the case properly, if at all.  However, in response to people asking us how to help, we thought a bullet point list might be helpful to some of you.


120 responses to “How Can You Help?”

  1. Thank you so much. I hope we all print these advisories out and use them whenever we can.

    Sadly, “most humans” WANT him to be TNS or Boogeyman. It makes them feel superior NOT to be educated.

    Thank you again for all that you have fought in his name.

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    1. You’re welcome, we thought it might be a good idea to have certain points to hand. You never know when they might come in useful.
      I agree with you, you see how it is, no one likes the naked truth, do they? Especially if it challenges everything they think they know.

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  2. thank you JAY, VENNING & KAYCEE for the amount of work you have put for this case! I know it’s so hard and not easy but you worked through is and super well! I wish I could do this! The work you did for Richard and his family and the victims and their family is truly outstanding and very inspiring! You guys know you have our support 100% no one can do a better job on a blog and book than you 3 and investigate the way you guys do! Bless you 3 and everyone in this blog! It’s time we spread the truth!

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    1. Bless you, Sarah. Remember, though, these are suggestions to help IF you want to drop a truth bomb. Please don’t get into fights for us, we’re okay, so don’t worry.

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  3. hahaha I promise no fights 😂! We can print these note ya?

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    1. I assume so. I actually don’t know for sure.

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  4. Yes, that is only a partial list and I’ve used nearly every one of them at one point or another but they don’t run out of challenges. Well, I welcome a challenge when it comes to defending Richard. I have had explain things to people who thought they knew what they were talking about only to be the one to say, “Guess what sweetheart, that fact you just quoted, well that ain’t no fact, that’s pure b.s. and I can prove it. Read this police incident report from the night of the crime.” Actual facts hit a little different than some he-said/she-said, hundreds of hours of interviews my azz.
    And I always throw props your way whenever I comment regarding the blog, the book or in general about Richard or the case.

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    1. I know it’s only a partial list, if they want more in-depth information they’ll have to either come here or go and get the book. Haha!
      Generally, once someone is dug into their particular trench it’s hard to change opinions, and let’s face it, the same, tired old stuff is circulating round and round, and has been for years. It reinforces the wrong information, especially when that info is pouring out from between the gums of a certain retired cop. The blind adoration and faith in the justice system is quite sad.
      But you found us (or we found you? I can’t remember now) and so we’ll hope others with an enquiring mind will ask the same questions that you did, and that we did in the beginning.

      Glad you have you back here.

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    2. it’s also very annoying when they call you a groupie or fangirl! I ignore it now but still they act as if they did a lot of research and digging lol talking to Gil and listening to him and media ain’t research it’s called laziness! I ain’t gonna shut my mouth when I’m defending Richard but I promised Jay I ain’t fighting anymore 😂

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      1. Most of them act like herd animals, so getting into a huge internet spat isn’t worth your mental wellbeing. Ok?
        The info is there should you choose to copy, paste and disappear. One dopey bloke once said to me “Yeah, well I’ve read a book”. Turns out it was Linedecker’s. Can you imagine thinking that was a reliable source of info? LOL I didn’t bother answering.

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      2. OMG! YOU’RE KIDDING! I couldn’t get past the first chapter of that catastrophe before I slammed it down! I only made it through Carlos’s fiasco

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        I completely agree! Especially Youtube. Haha. Everytime I’d say something about RR, I get asked things like “What am I smoking?” – and how I’m a fangirl. It’s all very irritating and frustrating. So I feel your pain @sarah1997!

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      4. Have you had “Get help!” yet? Hahaha!

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        I have hahaha. That’s why this blog has become a safe space for us who are interested in the TRUTH .. not just clickbait for views!!

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      6. We’ve tried to make it that way.

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      7. I’ve only seen Linedecker’s, but there are many self-published books about him or he is included in others. Now we’ve added to that.

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  5. that book?! Wasn’t it like filled with more lies than Carlos?! lol what a lazy argument! And yes you’re absolutely right it’s not worth my mental wellbeing for sure!

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  6. it’s crazy how they resort to that book instead of your guys book and blog! Or especially those YouTube make up and crime talks lol wtf is that?!😂

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  7. The list is helpful , thanks for it. I noticed that I got mild stomache ache , after I had upset myself so much because of the Bizaar Bazaar crap ..Shit happens I said to myself ….. Hahaha. I then had some battles with You Tube ..and this was really most tiring.. but after a while I knew I had won the fight. I just could not pretend not to see and understand the absurd claims and statements written there. But I do notice a change in some of the more frquented chanels , the owner of the chanel ( Della .. Musty Smelly Richard Ramirez seem to behave more like grown ups now and they dont delete critical comments , they even make senseful comments themselves sometimes . Problems I have with 5/6 hardcore Richard fans who sware that Richard did all the crimes and even more and that he is Marquis de Sade in even much better version than de Sade …autsch OMG .. I could not keep my mouth shut also when it came to defend Doreen…..They made most awful comments about her looks etc…So I could not ignore that. Also I could set straight the story about the policedog , that it is not in his police reports. Plus : that the attacked woman in Holiday Inn was later changed into a boy ..and that its again not in the police reports .

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    1. Poor you. I hope you’re feeling better now?
      It can be exhausting just reading the comments sometimes, especially those by the hard-core fangirls.

      Well done for holding your ground and I hope the list is useful.

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      1. I m afaid of comments . Haha David Bowies I am afraid of Americans …I changed it into I m afraid of comments .. LOL.

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      2. The internet is an ugly place, that’s why I have said I would never want anyone to get into a comment war.

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  8. No ..I m allright . I thought about Carlo s book again and I came to the conclusion that this book plays a central role in Richards case and life . Mr William Harder lerned it by heart i guess . But changed the Holiday Inn woman victim into a boy victim . Mr Harder is in deeply love with the Carlo book..??

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    1. Yes, Carlo’s book is unfortunately still seen as the Bible of Richard Ramirez.

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  9. unfortunately I don’t know for how long people are gonna keep resorting to Carlos book as the bible of Richard. Then they say we making up shit ummm writing a book takes a lot of time and effort why would you guys waste time writing a book lying about Richard makes absolutely no sense when they talk ughh

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    1. Of course. I mean we’re so good we can fake police reports and court documents, and manage to replicate the physical court files we were given access to. 🙄
      Why people are so offended by court documents and yet enjoy hearing about the bloodiest bits in constant podcast retelling says more about them than it does us.

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      1. I totally agree with you Jay. I just don’t get why they even have that thought in their mind it’s bazaar and so unfair for you guys, you guys have worked harder than anyone on this especially compared to the cops! Everyone seems to be making a joke out of this case while you guys are fighting for truth and justice so that alone says a lot about you and them!

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  10. I don’t know a lot about this case, only what is publicly known or assumed. I know there’s much support for them and, if they were abused, perhaps it’s time to re evaluate the case.
    I was interested to see William Vicary speak on the latest documentary about them. He briefly saw Richard to evaluate him soon after his arrest, when the public defenders and Joseph Gallegos first raised fears about his cognitive difficulties.

    Possibly one of the others knows more than I do about the Menendez brothers.

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  11. I won’t say too much because I don’t want to detract from the ongoing conversations about Richard and his case, which deserve undivided attention. But I did want to briefly share my thoughts on the Menendez brothers, as their case has always stirred something deeply complex in me.

    To be clear, I do believe the brothers premeditated the murder of their parents and for that, there must be accountability. They did, after all, take two lives, and no matter the circumstances, that can’t be excused or erased. But that said, I also firmly believe that Erik and Lyle Menendez were victims of sustained sexual, physical, emotional, and verbal abuse at the hands of their parents. I’ve watched all the full trial videos on YouTube, and when they gave their testimonies, it was heartbreaking and disturbingly familiar. The way they described their experiences mirrored the ways people close to me have spoken about their own trauma. It wasn’t just what they said, but how they said it—the hesitation, the fear, the pain beneath the surface. As someone studying psychology, I’ve learned enough to recognize certain trauma responses, even if I’m not a licensed professional. And both intuitively and logically, I believe they were telling the truth.

    I don’t think their ethnicity, being half-Hispanic, was the main source of discrimination against them. But I do think they faced a different kind of bias, one that’s rarely acknowledged, being male victims of sexual abuse. In our society, we are far more inclined to believe and support female survivors. When women come forward with stories of trauma, we rightly offer sympathy, understanding, and defense. But when men do the same, the reaction is often colder, more skeptical. There’s this deeply ingrained, toxic belief that men can’t be raped, can’t be abused, that they must always be the perpetrators, not the victims. And that bias poisons the way we view cases like this.

    I remember reading that in the first Menendez trial, several female jurors said the male jurors didn’t believe the brothers were abused and that they carried an air of disbelief rooted in that exact cultural stigma, the belief that men can’t be victims. It’s a deeply distorted view of masculinity, shaped by the actions of a few and projected onto the many. In cases like this, it’s not just harmful, it’s tragic.

    I personally believe the Menendez brothers deserve to be released. They’ve served decades in prison. What they did was horrifying and irreversible, and that must be acknowledged. But the reasons behind their actions were rooted in a very real, very traumatic history of abuse. They believed their lives were in danger, and after years of being silenced and brutalized, they snapped. That doesn’t make their actions right, but it does make them understandable in a human context.

    From what I’ve seen, they’ve been model inmates. There’s been no credible reporting of violence or disorderly conduct. On the contrary, they seem to have become deeply respected among those they’re incarcerated with, offering support, forming meaningful connections, and trying to live with a kind of quiet dignity. I don’t believe they’re a danger to society. If anything, they’re a tragic example of what happens when the systems meant to protect people utterly fail them.

    As for the fan edits and internet obsession, it makes me incredibly uncomfortable. Romanticizing trauma, murder, and abuse is never okay, and it trivializes the gravity of what these cases represent. And don’t even get me started on that absolute car crash of a Netflix series. Revolting doesn’t even begin to cover it. It turned something incredibly complex and heartbreaking into cheap entertainment, and that’s just unforgivable.

    In the end, I just hope that one day, we’ll get to a place where people are able to talk about these things with more nuance, compassion, and a willingness to question the easy narratives. Nothing about cases like this is black and white, and the sooner we stop pretending they are, the better.

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    1. Thank you, Vivi. I knew one of you knew more about it than I do.

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    2. It’s a incredibly complex and distressing case to get into. I can understand why you are interested in it, especially with the drastic rise in support the brother’s have been getting.

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      1. I first started getting into true crime and criminal case analysis back when I took a class on crime in America during university, as well as a horror-focused literature and film class in my senior year of high school. Those courses really opened the door for me. I’m a psychology major with a concentration in law and society and a minor in political science, so I think the intersection of those fields naturally lends itself to this kind of interest. The psychological, legal, and sociopolitical dimensions of crime all weave together in a way that makes the subject not only gripping, but incredibly important to understand.
        For a long time, though, I stayed away from true crime. I still held onto a rather naive and idealistic view of the world, and I didn’t feel ready to engage with the darker aspects of humanity. But eventually, I started looking deeper, particularly into serial killers. I was drawn to the question of why the United States, in particular, has produced such a significant number of them. What conditions have allowed this pattern to emerge? What are we missing in the way we frame these individuals?
        At first, like many people, I turned to Netflix. I watched practically every true crime documentary on there, and eventually made my way through hundreds more on YouTube. That’s when I stumbled across the infamous Night Stalker Netflix documentary, and from there, everything changed. The rest, as they say, is history.
        Since then, I’ve definitely stepped back from the broader true crime community, because let’s be honest, it can get really toxic really fast. I’m sure you’ve seen it too. The glorification, the fandoms, the aggressive gatekeeping of certain narratives, it can be deeply unsettling. But even as I pulled away from all of that, one case has continued to hold my attention: Richard Ramirez.
        There’s something about his case that just won’t let go. The contradictions, the inconsistencies, the way he was portrayed versus who he may have actually been, it all compels me to keep asking questions. It’s not just fascination for fascination’s sake. It feels like there’s something deeper here, something unresolved, and something that deserves a more honest examination than what’s been offered by mainstream media.

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  12. Regarding this post, I just want to say how genuinely happy I am that you referenced the Dahmer case as well, Jay. I’ve been looking into it myself, and it really is such a fascinating and disturbing rabbit hole to fall into. The parallels with Richard’s case are uncanny in so many ways. What really gets to me is how easily falsehoods and misinformation can spread. All it takes is a few clicks, a bit of careless regurgitation, and suddenly another grotesque detail has been added to Richard’s case. Another invented crime. Another exaggerated “fact” to bolster the narrative that he was somehow born evil, a bad seed destined to be a serial killer. And of course, it becomes another fetishized detail for the hybristophiles and fangirls to drool over and yet one more lie for Carrillo to peddle for profit.
    Meanwhile, the truth, the actual, difficult, painful, inconvenient truth, is so much harder to circulate. It’s not dressed up in an easy-to-digest soundbite or packaged in a flashy Netflix special. The truth is messy. It’s uncomfortable. It forces you to ask hard questions and face even harder answers. It demands that people pull their heads out of the sand, or quite frankly, out of their asses, and confront the reality that what they’ve been told might not just be wrong, but deliberately constructed.
    It’s absurd that so many of us feel the need to censor or tiptoe around our words when discussing Richard’s case, simply because the false narrative has become so deeply embedded in both the public and internet consciousness. The version of events surrounding Richard, the victims, the trial, and the so-called “evidence” or lack thereof has been repeated so often that it’s taken as fact without question. It’s exhausting, and it shouldn’t be this way.
    But I’ll say this. Lately, I’ve noticed a shift. Slowly but surely, some people are starting to wake up. When I first stumbled into this case a year ago, you couldn’t find a single comment on any platform that didn’t blindly declare Richard as the Night Stalker, no questions asked. Most were just creepy, disturbing posts that sexualized him or glorified the crimes. But now I’ve started to see real, productive conversations happening. Under YouTube videos, on Tumblr threads, even on TikTok and Reddit, people are beginning to question the official narrative. They’re pointing out inconsistencies. They’re referencing this blog, citing the book, and digging into the testimonies and so-called “evidence” and realizing that so much of it just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.
    That alone is a huge contrast to what I saw when I first found Richard’s case. Back then, it was all sensationalism, regurgitation, and fantasy. But now there are pockets of genuine curiosity, real doubt, and independent thinking. And that’s not a coincidence. That is a direct result of the hard work that you, Venning, and KayCee have poured into this. The effort, research, and thoughtfulness that you and the members of this blog community have put into investigating, discussing, and disseminating the truth has cracked something open. You’ve planted seeds of doubt where blind belief used to live.
    It’s still an uphill battle. We’re up against a narrative that’s been cemented for almost 40 years, one that was crafted and reinforced by the media, the justice system, and the public’s thirst for a monster. But I truly believe we’re making progress. And even if it’s slow, it’s meaningful. There is light at the end of this tunnel. And with every person who reads a post, opens the book, or starts to question, that light gets just a little bit brighter.

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    1. I have noticed more questioning than ever before, and that’s hopeful. There’s still a huge mountain to climb, but even, if in quiet corners of the internet, some are really looking at the evidence, it’s a start.
      Lots are too scared to speak up, or to even ask questions and I hope this blog and the book have sparked something within. We’ve had to grow very thick skins, we know what they say, but we’d still do it again. The judicial system is terrible, and it needs highlighting
      Thank you for being part of it.

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  13. I don’t claim to be an expert by any means when it comes to their case. I do remember watching something that was about their trials and how 2 relatives confirmed the allegations of abuse in the first one. However, in the second trial, I don’t remember why, but they weren’t allowed to testify on their behalf. That may have been why the first trial was a mistrial, yet the second resulted in conviction. I think they seemed believable.

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  14. I thought he sounded strange on the Carlo tapes in particular.

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    1. I think it really sounded like Richard was intentionally trying to come off as scary or menacing in some of his interviews, putting extra emphasis on the violent or gory parts. But to me, it just doesn’t seem like that was genuinely him. There was something performative about it, like he was saying what people expected him to say, what the media wanted to hear. In contrast, I felt like he came across as more sincere, even vulnerable, during his interview with Mikayal, the Israeli woman. There was a different tone in that one, something less forced, more real. I wish we had access to physical, on-camera interviews with Carlo to better understand how he was feeling during those moments.
      In my opinion, Richard often communicated more through his body language than his words. Not necessarily because he was being evasive, but possibly because he didn’t always know how to articulate what he was thinking or feeling. I want to be clear, I’m not trying to be one of those armchair body language “experts” who spout nonsense and pretend it’s legitimate analysis based on heavily edited footage. That kind of commentary always bothers me. But I do believe that, given his background and the way he was raised, verbal communication might not have been his strongest skill, especially as his cognitive and mental impairments became more severe and more pervasive over time.
      I’ve also noticed that in some of his audio interviews with Carlo, he sounds almost scripted. Maybe not literally reading off a page, like with Watkiss, but possibly rehearsing what he was going to say ahead of time. It’s like he wanted to make sure he said only what he was comfortable sharing, maybe leaving out things that felt too raw or complicated. There’s a sense of emotional control in those recordings, almost like he was shielding something. And maybe I am reading too much into all this again, but I can’t help it. There’s something about the way he spoke, the way he tried to manage how he was perceived, that makes me feel like we were never really hearing him as he was. Just fragments. Just pieces of what he felt safe enough to show.

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      1. I agree. The Carlo tapes (what we’ve heard) sounds to me like he was playing the role he was expected to play. In parts, though, he sounds weirdly childish and his voice almost unrecognisable.
        I don’t think he ever gave away much of himself and again, I think you’re correct about his interview with the Israeli woman.
        In that interview, he came across more real and sometimes unguarded.
        His expression and the rocking, self soothing motions when he talked about meditation.
        But even in that, he was still, from time to time, putting on the act, then veering from child to man and back again.

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      2. I feel a bit of relief knowing that Richard at least turned to some form of contemplative practice like meditation. Especially considering the immense stress, isolation, and psychological duress he must have been under during his incarceration, it brings a small measure of comfort to think he may have found even a moment’s peace through that kind of inner stillness. Of course, we don’t know if it was something he practiced regularly or if it was just occasional, but regardless, I hope it provided him with some kind of emotional outlet. Something that allowed him, even briefly, to center himself or reconnect with a part of his humanity that the prison system was trying so hard to strip away.

        Life in incarceration changes a person at the core. It does not just punish behavior, it attacks the self. It erodes your identity, silences your voice, and leaves you raw, exposed, and often emotionally numb. If you do not have healthy ways to process the immense weight of that reality, it can hollow you out completely. That is why contemplative practices like meditation can be so powerful. They are not a cure, but they can be a tool. A lifeline. A small way to keep your inner world from collapsing when everything around you is designed to crush it.

        That being said, in Richard’s case, I believe contemplative practice alone could never have been enough. Given the severity of his cognitive and mental impairments, there is absolutely no question that he would have needed consistent access to medication and long-term therapeutic care. These are not luxuries. They are necessities, and they were never properly provided to him in prison, at least to any meaningful extent from what I know. That in itself is heartbreaking. Because while the system was eager to lock him away and parade him around as a monster, it never made the slightest effort to treat him like a human being who was clearly suffering.

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      3. My partner has a theory that maybe people look at the Ramirez case with a view to writing books/making a series and either realise there are plot holes and retreat from it. They might also have read Carlo and think the job is already done, and that Carlo is unbeatable because he had both access to Ramirez and the trial transcripts. For documentaries that cover multiple killers, I’ve noticed that he is frequently left out. I watched on on Califonia killers and he wasn’t mentioned at all, which I found strange. Then there was another on killer M.O.s and he was excluded. Perhaps because he didn’t have one.

        I also think it’s because it’s a plotless story. The Dahmer official story has him joking around in school, the growing up to seduce and murder men, then doing weird things with the remains so there’s a clear modus operandi. People can and have made this into fiction with the series and film. Bundy the same, because he was a person people talked to, worked with etc. Conversely, Richard was just a “loner” (although I think this is exaggerated). So, Ramirez is just be a lonely man, high on drugs, driving in cars in the dark, breaking in and shooting/slashing people with no interactions other than to demand valuables supposedly caused by a bad childhood, groomed by Miguel Valles, head injuries, etc. They focus on glorifying the police instead and writing about the magical deductive powers of Carrillo. Nearly all documentaries focus on the police and how it affected them because the concept of the Night Stalker himself is just pure almost motiveless violence.

        Some of the victims seem addicted to publicity. Carns is one of them. I read something that said he reads everything about him and Ramirez still. The Kneidings’ granddaughter is similarly addicted to going on camera. She’s been on most of them as well as talk shows for the last 35 years reliving her grandparents’ deaths for that 15 mins of fame. It doesn’t seem healthy to me. Virginia Petersen and Sakina Abowath have also done interviews.

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      4. The lack of trial footage is also strange. We know George Woods viewed four hours of it when he evaluated Richard; so where is it?
        We only get to see a few short clips over and over.

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      5. It’s incredibly strange when you think about the fragments of footage we do have. The available courtroom or trial clips seem to focus almost exclusively on Richard himself, framing him as if he were some kind of celebrity, rather than capturing the actual trial proceedings. The camera lingers on him, not on the testimonies, the arguments, or the legal dynamics that unfolded in that courtroom.
        What’s even more perplexing is that we have more comprehensive footage from Ted Bundy’s trial, which took place back in the 1970s, a time with even more technological limitations. Bundy’s case, arguably just as high profile if not more so due to the geographic spread of his crimes, has surviving footage of testimonies and even interviews with victims who lived through the horror. So it has never made sense to me why Richard’s trial wasn’t documented with the same level of detail.
        There has to be more footage out there. If it was simply lost to time, that’s unfortunate but understandable. However, if it was deliberately destroyed or worse, if it was never filmed at all, that raises serious questions. It feels suspicious. The trial transcripts are incredibly valuable, of course, and help piece together the sequence of events, but actual footage would offer something deeper: context, tone, body language, emotion—nuances that transcripts alone can’t capture.
        Some argue that withholding the footage is a good thing, claiming it would only fuel the obsession of so-called “fangirls” or “groupies.” But the irony is that this very obsession was inflamed by the media itself. They branded him with sensationalist labels like “Death Row Romeo” and deliberately kept the cameras trained on him in the little footage we do have, focusing more on spectacle than substance.
        It’s just another one of the many unanswered questions surrounding this case. The selective preservation and presentation of material feel intentional and it leaves a gaping hole in understanding the full picture of what truly happened inside that courtroom.

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      6. I was thinking about how the 1986 hearing was closed to cameras. If the footage had been shown, it would have become clear that Richard was incompetent to stand trial. I was reading old Herald Examiner articles and he was like a small child in there.

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      7. Knowing how these people spin bullshit stories, they would’ve just said he was faking it to gain sympathy. That’s always the go-to excuse when someone doesn’t fit the image they’ve built up in their heads. And as frustrating as it is to admit, there’s a small part of me that wonders—if the public had actually seen that footage from the 1986 hearing, if they had witnessed firsthand just how mentally unwell and cognitively impaired Richard really was, maybe the appropriate steps would have been taken to help him gain competency. Maybe someone would have pushed for real psychological evaluations or proper treatment.
        But I know deep down that’s probably just wishful thinking. The public was already primed to see him as a monster, not as a human being. And once that label stuck, there was no turning back. Any sign of vulnerability would have been dismissed as manipulation, any attempt to show his mental deterioration would have been twisted into performance.

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      8. All of the preliminary hearing newspaper coverage says he did the crimes. Instead of “the suspect/attacker/assailant” it’s just “Ramirez did this, Ramirez did that,” even in articles where they acknowledge the victim didn’t describe him correctly. This is a disgrace – it wasn’t even the trial, just a hearing, but he’s already condemned. Then Richard would be sitting there, laughing and pretending to smoke a pen lid, which they used to imply his guilt. It makes me rage.

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      9. I think we often underestimate just how powerful language is—especially in shaping our subconscious beliefs and long-term associations. When Richard’s name is repeatedly mentioned in the context of the “Night Stalker,” paired with definitive language like “he murdered,” “he raped,” “he terrorized,” it wires our brains to form strong cognitive associations between his identity and those actions. Even if contradictory evidence surfaces, or rational doubts are raised, the subconscious imprint of those labels can remain intact. That’s the insidious nature of repeated suggestion—eventually, it bypasses reason and settles into belief. In a sense, it’s a form of psychological conditioning. Or to be more direct—it was a kind of soft brainwashing.

        This is exactly how propaganda works. And interestingly, it’s not all that different from the methods used in marketing and advertising. Commercials and branding campaigns deliberately use color psychology, fonts, music, and carefully engineered phrases to evoke emotional responses and plant associations that compel people to buy. The goal is to bypass critical thought and influence behavior by manipulating subconscious triggers. With Richard’s case, the public was already psychologically primed to accept a villain narrative due to the heightened fear and tension in Los Angeles at the time. There had been a surge in violent crimes, and people were desperate for a sense of control or resolution. Law enforcement and media seized that atmosphere and filled the void with a single name—Richard Ramirez.

        Every day, newspapers, TV broadcasts, and police briefings reinforced this image. In nearly every corner, on every newsstand, in every late-night segment, the “Night Stalker” loomed. It created a kind of collective paranoia—a moral panic fueled by a blend of fear conditioning and repetitive exposure. This, in turn, hardened the public’s perception. Once someone is symbolically cemented as “the monster,” it becomes nearly impossible to separate fact from emotionally charged fiction. It’s part of what makes dismantling these kinds of narratives so difficult, even decades later.

        What makes Richard’s case especially fascinating is how psychology operated on both individual and societal levels—from media influence to groupthink, to how trauma and fear affected witness testimony, jury selection, and even public memory. It’s a textbook study in mass psychological manipulation.

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      10. Remember that one psychiatrist in the public gallery saw straight away that there was something wrong with him?

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      11. Yes! She wanted to assess him.

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      12. She also said he was vacant and hadn’t got a clue what was going on.

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      13. Carlo more likely had access to trial transcripts (which are also not available for some reason) and he may also have been able to view the four hours of footage George Woods watched.
        At this point it’s definitely looking like they are concealing it all.
        There was even an instance where they wouldn’t even let his appeal lawyers have access to records of a meeting in the judge’s chambers and also some trial transcripts were destroyed. So it does look rather murky.

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    posted a comment that includes a comment from your list, it was never edited. So either the owner of the channel is blocking it or it’s YouTube.

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    1. It happens regularly and it’s very frustrating.

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    2. I definitely think the video owners remove stuff. I was so careful not to put certain words in but they vanished a few hours later. I stopped commenting entirely after that.

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      1. it’s so weird tho eveytime I commented about Richard even on a Richard YouTube page that defends him my comments never showed up only few ever did!

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        What is curious is that this kind of comment is censored on the channels of so-called worshippers!

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      3. They’re often the ones who absolutely need him to be guilty. If you show them evidence to the contrary, or at least something that opens up questions, they get very upset.
        They’re weird.

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      4. People who claim to love him don’t want to hear alternative views. I found it very strange when I first got into this subject.

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      5. Yes, it takes some getting used to.

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  16. I’m not sure exactly who this applies to here, but I just wanted to say Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms in this space. I truly hope that your child or children take the time to fully and openly express their gratitude for the immense love, care, and sacrifice you have given and continue to give to provide them with the best life possible. Being a mother is not just a role. It is a profound, often underappreciated act of devotion that shapes lives in ways words can’t always capture. Mothers are the quiet strength behind so much of the beauty and stability in this world. You are the nurturers, the protectors, the fierce advocates, the soft place to land when life gets hard. You are precious treasures on this earth, and today, I hope you are reminded of just how deeply valued and cherished you truly are.

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  17. HAPOY MOTHERS DAY to all amazing mothers out there! Jay make sure your son spoils you a lot today! Haha❤️

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    1. I have a son and a daughter, Sarah, but in the UK we celebrate Mother’s Day in March. But thank you!

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      1. awww how cute well make sure your son and daughter spoil you then! And you know what in the Middle East where I come we have Mother’s Day in March as well haha so cool that you guys do as well!

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  18. I’ve noticed that about his accent. Like when he says of Miguel Valles “I looked up to him” it sounds like a stereotype Mexican accent. Sometimes he sounded croaky and slow. Maybe he was tired. But it makes him very strange to listen to.

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    1. I couldn’t agree more I thought the same thing I’ve heard him so many times talking in the same videos released of him and few sound like him while others don’t so I kept thinking maybe AI but idk

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  19. about 1 h ago the YouTube chancel musty smelly posted a video of Richard and Carlo talking for 30 mins somethings I’ve never heard before! I don’t know about you guys if you’ve heard it but it’s new to me for sure

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    1. Keep an eye on that channel, they copied and pasted our homepage and bits from at least three of our posts, and fed it through a weird AI voiceover, without proper credit. They were called out on it and eventually added our link in the description.
      They said people shouldn’t expect integrity from their channel.

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      1. oh damn really I never knew that but ok I’ll definitely keep an eye out for that Chanel! Thnx for letting me know Jay!

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      2. We don’t mind people sharing our stuff, we want the info out there, but we ask that links and credit are given.
        Musty Smelly literally copied/pasted our home page, plus bits from other posts, fed into an AI thing and tried to pass it off as their work.
        I wrote the home page, so we knew straight away what was going on, we recognise our own writing. It even included our embedded links, so it sounded nonsensical as those links are for clicking on. Lol
        Plagiarism is not ok, which is what it is unless you clearly state your source and what you’ve done. 🙄

        Most of the groupies are nuts, it’s just the way they are. One was mightily affronted the other day and stated she only likes him because he’s a killer. We’ve come across some real freaks, as you can imagine.

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  20. well if you for this situation want me to fight I’m ready Jay!! 😜

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    1. Don’t worry. It’s sorted, but thank you. 😅

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      1. hehe no problem at all! I got ya backs!

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      2. Bless you, Sarah.

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  21. Yes, when you Google her it pops up. It’s probably attached to her LinkedIn or website.

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    1. She can thank Richard for her career path. Lol
      Not that she did any good where he was concerned.

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  22. From my understanding they’ve been resentenced to 50 years to life, but because of their ages at the time of the murders (18 and 21?) it automatically means eligibility for parole under the youthful offender law in California.
    I think the DA is opposed to the resentencing, and Governor Newsom could override any decision the parole board makes. I read he has requested a risk assessment.
    I don’t think they pose a risk to the public at all.

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  23. their case actually confuses me a lot for some reason aha

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  24. Carlo’s widow has them, or had them, but presume she’s sold some to various TV channels.
    Richard wanted them destroyed but Carlo didn’t; he must’ve realised they’d make money in the future.

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  25. I’ve heard on this show but didn’t see it, a lot of lies and it never ends! That GILY boy still does interviews like doesn’t he have anything better to do?!

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  26. Yes, I think Shelly is mostly full of shit. Given that Rosa’s own daughter Jennifer was raised mostly by Mercedes and Julian, I find it hard to believe that she would be given custody of Shelly. I believe Jennifer might have said Mercedes looked after Shelly for a while.

    Shelly is definitely lying/mistaken when she said Robert had anything to do with paying for Richard’s lawyers. There is no way he could afford it, nor would he be expected to as an semi-employed disabled person. She is using Richard as a reason for her parents’ divorce to make herself more relevant. That’s definitely NOT why they divorced. Shelly obviously has no idea that it was Rosa trying arrange film/book deals with Richard’s lawyers to pay for their service. It’s either a lack of knowledge or she is just inserting her side of the family into the story for sympathy points.

    I noticed the psychologist on the show leaned into that sympathy thing and talked about how Shelly’s family was destroyed as a secondary effect of Richard’s crimes but it’s a lie. The marriage failed because of her mother. Allegedly…

    Regarding Miguel, I have no idea whose arse they pulled the “smoked a blunt after murder” out from. It shows how documentaries really ramp up the crazy when it comes to Richard, laying on more and more sickness and people believe it. The myths keep snowballing. We know from his friends that Richard was very disturbed by what happened. There’s no way a child and Miguel just smoked over the body. The news reports stated that Miguel ran from the house screaming that he’d killed his wife and given that Josefina didn’t die straight away, it shows that emergency services were called immediately. Whoever made that up needs a smack.

    With the Julian Sr thing, it was Carrillo who discovered that Julian lied that he hadn’t seen his son. Carrillo was so obsessed with Richard that he obtained all the El Paso newspapers and found the interview and gave it to the prosecutor to damage Julian Sr. He said they could have pursued perjury for him but didn’t in the end. I think he was just trying to protect his son. Richard was upset his father was there because his lawyers never told him and he was traumatised by it. I wish Falzon would wake up and see Carrillo’s lies. They can’t stand each other but Falzon still believes all of it.

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    1. I just don’t get why they can’t just properly fact check all this information given to them like it’s not hard at all stop being lazy! I don’t believe a word Shelly says in one video with that crime girl forgot her name they talked about her and Richard in prison and she was so defensive about that which made it seem more sus but idk

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    2. That entire family can be wholly described in one word: dysfunctional.

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    3. Yes, Mercedes and Julian Snr brought Jennifer up.

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  27. I completely get why that video would upset anyone. On the surface, it’s shocking—these are incredibly personal items, and the idea of them being sold can feel invasive and grim. That kind of thing naturally stirs a strong emotional response, especially when people have genuine empathy for Richard and a deep investment in the truth of his story.

    That said, I think it’s important to be gentle in how we talk about this. I’m going to be completely transparent and admit that I don’t really know the dynamics or nature of the relationship between Richard and Doreen. And to be honest, I don’t think any of us truly do, nor do we really have the right to. That was their relationship—private and complex—and whatever bond they had is something we can only speculate about from the outside.

    It’s entirely possible there was some sort of agreement between them that we don’t know about. Maybe Richard gave his blessing for certain things, maybe he didn’t. We just don’t know. Most of what we think we know about his relationships comes from Carlo’s books and media sources, which have proven time and again to be unreliable or sensationalized. The only source that offers any real credibility is what’s written in the Writ, and even that only gives limited insight. Without hearing from Doreen directly, we’re left with fragments and assumptions.

    As for the sale of his belongings—maybe she needed the money. Maybe those items weren’t even Richard’s and were misrepresented. Or maybe, for her, it was a way of preserving something, or letting go. Unless she comes forward and shares her side, we simply don’t have the full picture.

    What I do know is that Doreen was put through hell. She was cast out by society, possibly by her own family, and became an object of ridicule and hatred simply for standing by someone she cared about. From what we do know, she remained with Richard, supported him, and was there until the very end. That kind of commitment—especially in the face of such overwhelming public scorn—speaks volumes about the kind of emotional strength she must have had.

    That doesn’t mean we can’t question things or feel uncomfortable, because our reactions are valid too. But I think it’s worth remembering that this story is already full of distortion and judgment. Doreen’s role in it has never been fully understood, and she’s often spoken about as either a villain or a deluded fangirl. But like everything else in this case, the truth is probably more complicated than that.

    At the end of the day, I don’t think any of us want to add more harm to a situation already steeped in so much tragedy. It’s okay to feel uneasy or upset by what we see, but maybe we can also hold space for compassion, ambiguity, and the fact that we may never know the full story.

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    1. She probably could have cashed in far more on Richard’s infamous “serial killer” status if she had wanted to. The opportunities were certainly there—more interviews, television appearances, media deals. Everything was up in the air, and had she chosen to lean into the spectacle, the press likely would’ve welcomed her with open arms. But from what I’ve gathered, she didn’t. As far as I can tell, Doreen only appeared publicly to promote Carlo’s book, and even then, I genuinely believe she did so because she thought it might help Richard in some way—not for personal gain or attention. Aside from that, there’s only one other interview I’ve ever been able to find.

      I can’t recall exactly who said it—maybe it was Jay, Venning, or KayCee—but I remember one of them mentioning that Doreen ended up regretting doing that interview to promote Carlo’s book. I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m pretty sure she didn’t know exactly what was written in it at the time. It’s entirely possible she was misled, or at least not fully informed about how the book would frame Richard or exploit his image. Looking back, it’s hard not to feel like she was used—like she walked into that situation hoping to support Richard and instead found herself entangled in something that undermined everything she stood for.

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      1. Yes, she bitterly regretted doing that interview, and said herself that she always “flew under the radar”.
        Doreen gets a bad rap, but she stepped up when it mattered.
        She made sure Richard’s ashes were scattered in accordance with his wishes.
        It’s a shame she sold the toe tag and ashes container, though.

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    2. Both Rosa and Doreen have acted with dignity, both could’ve sold their stories and both chose not to. I highly doubt either will ever speak publicly about him.

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  28. It would make sense if he did.

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  29. I was watching a YouTube channel a while back and I remembered that there was a friend of Richard being interviewed I think his name was Eddie? He was being interviewed by YouTubers doing some investigation or something I forgot. He was saying something like Richard was being hit by his girlfriend and he didn’t at all hit her back and asked him why he didn’t hit her back and Richard said he loved her which actually describes Richard tbh not as someone the media portrayed him to be!

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    1. Yes, I have seen it. It was on some paranormal investigation where they just happened to find Eddie, baking in the sun.
      It’s true Eddie did say that, but he also said Richard might have off’d a homeless guy and also tried to blow Eddie’s head off with the same gun.
      Eddie recounted how he talked “Ricky” down and ever so gently removed the clip from the gun Richard had aimed at his head.
      Sadly for Eddie, the gun he said Richard had was a revolver, and didn’t have a clip.
      Of course Eddie didn’t mention any of that during his declaration, it must’ve ‘slipped his mind’..

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      1. lol happen to see him there how’d they know what he even looked like if it’s the first time seeing him unless someone told them. They always get the wrong type of gun in notice in this case not only with the documentary but with this type of interview as well. I don’t know much about Eddie but he seems like a grifter as well.

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  30. They are different people. I think Gloria came first when Richard was 15 and then Nohemi when he was 17-18.

    It was East Hubbard Street.

    The Hall of Records is free to visit and is downtown on Hill Street but you have to fill in forms to go in. The other legal documents are free on PlainSite.org. Google Richard Ramirez Vs Robert Ayres.

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    1. Thanks for the info

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    2. It’s from an episode of Unsolved Mysteries, I think. We saw it a couple of weeks ago. I wonder what happened to Espinoza? He probably disappeared over the border.

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  31. The only one who could answer that correctly is Richard, and I am not certain he even knew for sure.
    He seems a bit jumbled up as he appears to have believed in God, too, as he asked his mother to pray for him.
    According to a friend of his, she saw him praying to Satan over a pentagram he’d drawn on the floor.
    I personally think his interest in Satanism was of the time, perhaps born of the religiosity he experienced growing up, and then influenced by a growing trend. He might have thought it was ‘cool’. Praying to God didn’t get him the life he wanted so perhaps he thought he’d turn to the ‘other fella’ instead.
    Who knows? I imagine it was, like many other things, rather mixed up in his head.
    He obviously read the Satanic Bible, and became the “poster boy” for all things to do with Satan.

    To me it seems kind of childish to draw on yourself with biro, but I’m not religious at all. I have no idea how/if he practised rituals beyond the “moving lamp” story and the pentagram on the floor.

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    1. When we were in LA we found out he “couldn’t be traced” so did not appear as a witness, as far as we’re aware. That was quite odd as he definitely wasn’t dead.
      Considering any info he gave was beaten out of him by Falzon, I wonder if they’d have been able to use it.
      Falzon came out with a story that Armando thanked him for turning his life around.

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      1. Hi Jaime, thanks so much, I’m so glad you enjoyed it and got a lot from it. As it stands, we are sure this books stands as the only reliable source of info about Richard and what happened. It was important to reference everything so people can check for themselves to see that nothing was made up.
        The Carlo book IS useful where the trial is concerned, but he took liberties; inventing scenarios that he had no way of verifying and because he moved Richard to LA eighteen months to early, he’s enabled a whole can of worms to be opened and filled with other claims.
        “Curandero” is the word that’s used in Marilyn Cornell’s declarations in the 2008 petition, Carlo doesn’t appear to have realised that.
        It was also vitally important that Carrillo’s claims were flagged up as inaccurate, and Venning worked ceaselessly to show that; she should’ve been a P.I.
        Thanks for taking the time to tell us how you feel about the book, it really means a lot. Would you mind leaving us a review on Amazon? It really helps get the book seen. 😊

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      2. I’ve heard of that before, I can’t remember the reason for it off the top of my head, but thank you for mentioning us in other places, it all matters and helps get the information out there.
        It’s staggering how little real information about the case is known.
        What does that tell you about the world we live in?

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      3. It’s very hard to get information about the case, and I wonder if it’s engineered to be that way. I doubt Gil ever imagined there’d be a time where the police reports would be available and studied, or that the inconsistencies would be publicly discussed.
        We found the people at the Hall of Records to be suspicious, unfriendly and unprepared; they kept us waiting.
        I hope you have luck getting hold of the footage, please keep us informed.

        In answer to your question Venning and I are British, Kaycee is American. So yes, we flew from the UK to LA to get our hands on those files. Lol

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      4. And the flight in was nearly 11 hours of claustrophobic torture. That’s how you know we are serious haha.

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      5. Ugh.. I thought it was 13, maybe I lost 2 hours to delirium. Awful.. cattle class is awful.

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      6. Coming back was 12 because we had to go the long way right across the USA instead of up through Canada. Its a delirious dream for me too!

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      7. I think you have to spend a certain amount of money on there before it allows reviews. Annoying and weird.

        But thanks for telling people about it! Appreciate it!

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      8. I always wondered about that macabero word because nothing came up when I googled it. Thanks for the information. I’m glad you enjoyed reading the book! Kindle and the paperback have the same content.

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      9. Thank you

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      10. What a joke! Falzon turned his life around? Didn’t we read in the LA docs that by the time of the trial Armando had absconded and they couldn’t find him?

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      11. Yes, I think I mentioned that earlier on in this thread somewhere.

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      12. Yes he dodged subpoena. I can only guess that Falzon was talking about Armando testifying at the grand jury thing because he was never in open court.

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  32. there’s even crazy stories about him praying to Satan to help him like example he helped Richard teleport to Cecil hotel kill Elisa lam then teleport back to jail! And paranormal ppl still believe and use his name about this!

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    1. I know. That one, in particular, is pathetic.
      I truly hope no one seriously believes that nonsense.

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      1. I mean I don’t understand how anyone like anyone at all would even have that thought in their mind to even think like this it’s crazy and if anyone truly believes this wooow we are doomed

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      2. Unfortunately the paranormal community can be as brainwashed as the TCC. It’s indicative of the times we live in.
        Critical thinking = bad.
        Wild impossibilities = good.

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      3. That crazy I honestly hate that but sadly we can’t do anything about it!

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  33. i REALLY appreciate this blog and i’m so grateful that people like you exist.
    i like true crime cases but i found out about the ns case because on my tiktok a rr edit popped up in my feed. (i have to admit that i find him physically attractive) anyway i felt curious about the case. after watching videos and stuff idk but i felt like something was missing.
    then i kind of approach to that true crime tiktok side and tt recommended me a video from a person that was reposting this blog and that’s how i got here, i read a few entries but i stopped reading, but I got a call from don’t know where and i am back and i’m really glad to know you keep posting and now you have this book and everything (you all should be really proud)
    i have posted some vids in tt trying to make people see the other side of the story or like when i see a comment that says something wrong about the case i reply, i also link this blog but it’s so hard for these people to open their eyes. 
    for some reason his case really left a mark, i wouldn’t say i am a rr fan/groupie (that’s what people say or would say) but all these girls are really blind and deranged. because unlike them for me finding out there’s a likelihood that he was innocent is a real relief. it made me feel better cause sometimes i was questioning myself like “am i sane? why do i find him attractive? is there anything wrong with me?” hahaha.
    and now tt isn’t only full of this girls that “love” rr but also another community were they only talk about his high cheekbones and how they want to look like him and then in the caption saying something like “i don’t support his actions” or edgy things rr allegedly said. 
    if they only knew what’s behind.
    greetings from colombia 🇨🇴 🖤

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    1. Hi, welcome to our blog; we’re very glad you found your way to us.

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    Yeah, Musty Smelly is an Australian channel that has a lot of high quality clips, many that are super rare can also be found as well as some more ‘fan based’ vids. But nonetheless, it’s always informative to see rare unreleased clips regarding his trial coz we know how much is censored over the internet!!

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    Thank you for sharing your insight, it’s good to understand and look at it from a Mexican cultural perspective too.
    On a diff note – The amazing @Venning, @Jay @Kaycee ..would yu guys ever consider going back to the Hall of Records to scour for more documents? And do you guys think nowadays it’s somewhat harder to be railroaded? Or is it happening just as often in your opinion?

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    1. We’re considering a few options currently, although it may take a while.
      I am not sure it’s harder, I think if the case is big enough, the media attention will make it just as hard to get a fair trial; possibly harder, if you add social media into the mix.
      Again, money still plays a big part in the judicial process, if you want a good defence.

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  36. Thanks for your insight on the subject.

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