Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

This Is Good..

In fact, it’s excellent.

This is a quick note from me.
I wanted to bring this new YouTube channel to your attention, as some of you may not have seen it.  @SataysandMash – we are not affiliated with them, but they share the material with our knowledge and permission, crediting and promoting our work in their videos.  

Our greatest aim is to get the information out there through this blog (where it all started) and, of course, the book.  However, we freely acknowledge that for some people, having a bite-size explanation in a video format might suit them better.
There is so much disinformation about the case, along with many fangirl edits, that we rarely come across something worth sharing with you.

This is their latest video about the Abowath Incident. If you haven’t seen it already, go and have a look; there are others on there, too. It will be time well spent.

Click HERE to watch it in full.

In case you missed it, here’s a link to the book page.

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315 responses to “This Is Good..”

  1. lwuchter Avatar
    lwuchter

    thank you!!!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      You’re welcome. Enjoy!

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  2. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes , I ve already seen it three times this morning. I think its great ! I like it and I love the blond wig they have put on Richard ! LOL..its soo good what they do and how they do ! And also 4 newer Fotos of Richard have appeared .I can t remember which channel but I find them really good because they show different sides of Richard .

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      yes the blonde hair cracked me up!

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    2. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Also I’d like to see new photos.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        There are 4 Fotos. 2 Fotos he looks like a nice 18 year old schoolboy ( or 17 ) and next like a young apprentice ..2 other he look wild with head back in leather Jackett.The last ones ..He looks a bit too wild for me . Haha.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I haven’t seen them, but there are many edited/photoshopped pics out there so until I see them, I’ll reserve judgement on the authenticity.

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      3. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I’ve seen one on there of him holding a small child that’s AI generated lol

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I am so sick of these ridiculous fakes.

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      5. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Its on Dark Cherry Channel I think those 4 Fotos are real…No Fakes . There made in an automat..I try to make a link . …The foto with the child is a fake ?? Oh…I did not know that. There is so much perverseness going on in this Richard case …Its awful people doing that Bah.

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Just copy/paste the url and we’ll have a look.

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      7. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        So ..I think I have suceeded in sending those 4 Fotos . To me they are not a fake ..no way ! I have made fotos like that also when I was younger , it was always real fun in these foto booth s ! LOL

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Did you email them? Because I can’t see a link.

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      9. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , I ve sent those fotos . But obviously something went wrong. I ll check that what happened . I forwarded them I think ..Sorry for this mess.

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      10. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I’ve seen them now. They’re definitely AI generated. He looks like he’s in his 30s in them and nothing like actual 1980s photobooth images like ones my mother has.

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      11. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Total fakes, as usual.
        That third one is the horror we saw the other day.

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      12. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Sorry, Isabella, they’re fake.
        I have already seen the third one, it’s definitely AI. It even has a hairy neck.
        These fakes just confuse the issue.

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      13. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        The one with the child is also fake.
        To be honest, the whole channel is cringe and a big part of why serious conversations about the case struggle to be heard. Fantasists.

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      14. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        It’s a new one going round, it’s quite a close up and is bright/clear and definitely AI.
        The old, grainy one, of teenage Richard holding a baby, is real.

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      15. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Yes.. and that “confession” letter was computer typed, it was so obvious. It wasn’t even on a typewriter.
        Huge red flag!
        And the words “I let a child go once”.
        Once? Why would he say that? All the children of 85 were let go.. not just “one”.
        These idiots just pollute already muddied waters further.
        Fake letters, ridiculous AI images. It’s getting stupid.
        I like that photo, too.

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      16. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I would need to see the Spanish one but one family member did show us some letters/cards he wrote to Mercedes in Spanish. It might be one of those, as it sounds very much like the one we saw. Mercedes didn’t speak English.

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      17. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I understand what you mean. Maybe she clung to what was comfortable for her? It’s hard to know.

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      18. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I don’t think the Ramirezes ever truly made a meaningful effort to integrate into American society. I agree with Jay that part of it may have been out of comfort—perhaps it was simply easier for Mercedes to continue speaking Spanish rather than struggle through learning English, a language that, let’s be honest, can often be nonsensical. I’ve seen this struggle firsthand. My own mother came from a country thousands of miles away, where her native language bore no resemblance to English. She fought for years to learn it, and I had to help her while I was still learning the language myself. I know how overwhelming, even isolating, that experience can be. The hesitation, the fear of embarrassment, the frustration of constantly being misunderstood—I get it.

        But I also think there’s more to it than just comfort. In some cases, it’s pride. In others, it’s complacency. I’ve known many immigrants who come to the U.S. and refuse to make any real effort to adapt. Some see assimilation as a betrayal of their culture, while others do only the bare minimum to get by. And I understand—it’s exhausting to start over in an unfamiliar place, to feel like you’re constantly being asked to change, to sacrifice parts of yourself just to fit in. But at the same time, when you refuse to take those steps, you limit yourself and your future.

        Mercedes worked tirelessly at the boot factory, then came home to take care of her children. There’s no denying that she carried an immense burden, and I won’t pretend that adding the stress of learning English or furthering her education would have been easy. But for the sake of herself and her family, I believe she should have at least tried. Surely, there must have been some kind of adult education program or community college course she could have taken advantage of. Yes, I realize I’m placing a lot of responsibility on her shoulders, but with Julian Sr. away working for long stretches of time, he wasn’t in a position to do it. If Mercedes had made the sacrifice to pursue an education, even just basic English courses, it could have opened up so many more opportunities for her—better jobs, less physically demanding labor, possibly even higher pay.

        The immigrant life is brutal, even for those born in the U.S. but raised in immigrant households. It demands sacrifice after sacrifice, all for just the hope of achieving a small slice of the so-called American dream. But more often than not, those sacrifices pay off in the long run. My experience isn’t universal, and I know every family faces unique struggles. But I also know that with effort, change is possible. And when I look at the Ramirezes, I can’t help but feel that they could have done better—for themselves and, most importantly, for their children.

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      19. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I’ve always wondered about this. Because she restricted herself to menial jobs. Being bilingual like the rest of her family would have broadened her opportunities and helped her to communicate with medical practitioners relating to her kids’ illnesses. But no, she chose to remain as a ‘foreign immigrant’ even though she was born a citizen. Very strange.

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      20. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Even allowing the family to get deported for a time because she wasn’t able to speak up and let anyone know she was a citizen. Very sad.

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      21. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        There is a card going around that he sent to his mother in Spanish that was shared by a niece a few years ago.

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      22. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes ..I found the channel .It is Dark Cherry channel.

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  3. Jaime1198 Avatar
    Jaime1198

    I’m actually subscribed to their YouTube channel. Their videos are really good and they have some pictures that I’ve never seen before. I saw a picture of Carol Kyle and Felipe Solano that I’ve never seen before. They’re doing a good job at explaining everything too. Hope they get more views.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      So do I, the more people that see what went on the better.
      I like the substack, too.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I think it will be as bad as all of the others, sadly. Gil would be involved as he inserts himself everywhere and it would end up being the usual misrepresentation.
        I hope they never do it.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        The bloke talks out of his arse. LOL
        The problem is what ever they do, they will never look at the evidence that actually does not point to Ramirez. The negative semen results, the hair, the blood group A found at the Bennett scene. The fact they they can not prove he ever had Avia sneakers, or the real truth that hundreds of thousands of shoes could have been responsible for those notorious footprints.
        It raises too many questions; questions they really don’t want people asking. Now if WE could do a documentary.. that would be something!

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  4. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    WOOW amazing! Good for you guys! I’m so glad there are ppl out there doing all this it really helps a lot especially for you guys!!!

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  5. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Pinterest has crazy amounts of edited pictures of Richard and even some interviews but I don’t know if the interviews are real or fake!

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  6. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Anyway , your amazing work with the book and blog slowly but surely shows its effects . Yesterday I have read all the comments concerning False Confessions again ( in German) its 3rd time now alltogether that I ve read them…and really .I think he did nt commit those crimes . But ..in the end he could nt escape all of that theatrical happenings and no appeal could help him ..And there were some people who drank a glass of wine on him in the end 2009 .

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      Little by little more will begin to ask the relevant questions. With any luck.

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  7. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I told you guys great things time now more people I pray will read your works!!!

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    1. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      They are fake ? The first 2 also fake ? I thought the Nr.3 and 4 could be fake .I thought they were pretty awful anyway. Some of the Hybristo girls on You Tube have choosen Foto Nr.3 for their Profil Foto…..But the Nr 1 and 2 ..fake as well I have to learn a lot then…haha..

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        All of them are fake.

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      2. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        OMG .OMG ..AWFUL..

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      3. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Oh , Im still shocked about the fotos. Especially Foto 3 and 4. They serve to convey a certain image..of a guy , a twylight zone guy who does nt care too much about hygiene or nice clothing…Who does something like that and how long did they fiddle about with this. Disgusting !

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I have to be honest, he is just a fantasy to them, a fetish.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha I think this comment was meant for JAY?

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  8. Camille Avatar
    Camille

    Richard with blonde hair makes me laugh!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Me too!

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I know Richard was what some would consider to be a “light skin Mexican”. But I can’t help but think that he looks so white-washed in a lot of those edited photos it’s weird af.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I wish they’d just leave the photos alone.

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      Me too.

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    3. Jaime1198 Avatar
      Jaime1198

      Yeah. That was hilarious. True, he was a light-skin Mexican but you could still tell he was Latino. I don’t know why some people would confuse him with being Caucasian and the fact that she said that she thought he was blonde cause of the light is honestly such a bullshit excuse cause that just doesn’t seem plausible.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Absolutely.
        Also the child abductions (apart from Anastasia Hronas) all independently described a shorter man with dirty blonde hair who was considerably heavier set than Ramirez.
        The police confirmed that in news reports of March 1985.

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  9. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    omg I thought I was the only laughing at that blond hair 😂

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    1. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Blonde Richard ..this got my attention immideately . I thought wow whats that for heavens sake and it made my day . LOL. This is the best and only strategy to catch lots of people to read about Richard . Haha..That made me laugh very early in the morning today ! So good !

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Sometimes people need to be shown a visual for it to sink in.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Hahaha right?! I don’t understand how they said he had blonde hair! My dad has the same color hair as Richard and his hair doesn’t at all look blond or light under the light or sun!

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        They said blonde hair (the abducted children and Sakina) because that’s what they saw; someone with blonde hair.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I remember the kids said blond hair! But Sakina if I remember in court changed hers to blond hair?

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Sakina told police that the man who attacked her had dirty blonde hair.
        It’s in her witness statement.
        She changed the attacker’s appearance after 3 or 4 police interviews until she said the hair was brown.

        In court she had to admit she had said the man who killed her husband and violently attacked her had blonde hair.
        She then said it was because he was stood under a light and it made him look blonde.

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      6. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Omg yes now I remember this omg I really need to reread your stuff! Thnx for the reminder as always jay haha

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      7. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , I made the experience that rereading of almost everything in the book plus the comments is very necessary and , only then all important things get memorized properly. And more complicated , demanding parts I read 3 times ..like I did with false confessions . In this case I could widen my impressions and thoughts about his personality plus some expressions got fixed in my head wich I combined with other assumptions etc. And then slowly you have the feeling that you have a overview of the whole case . Its the learning process in general. And ..thats why I came to the conclusion that his personality does not really fit to someone who slaughters such an amount of people plus commits all those other crimes , I think 43 …And this quote from a policeman He s a freak but he s not our freak got stuck in my head as well , even at the first reading. One always can change the results of that thinking.. There is that New book by John Grisham FRAMED. Its about many things we are discussing here….But I guess some of you know about it already ? I read a little of it ..its allright , or okay so far ..I read about police methods of questioning suspects.

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        That’s exactly right, Isabella. It is so complex, has so many layers, it is impossible to take it in all at once. Keep re reading and asking questions; it is the best way.

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  10. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I just read your comment Jay about if you guys would make a documentary about Richard! Omg how awesome would that be?! A book, blog and documentary?! OMG YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE AN AMAZING DOCUMENTARY and I truly mean it!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      Hahaha! That comment was just saying that’s the only way proper info would get out there. Sadly, we have no plans to do one.
      I am trying to imagine us doing a documentary, we swear too much, it would be hilarious.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Hahaha it’s ok maybe one day and even if not at least we have this blog and book and people spreading your work! But the swearing hahaha I would love to hear that!!!

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  11. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    When I see those heavily doctored and AI-generated images of Richard, I can’t help but feel a deep sense of sadness. His fangirls—these hybristophiles and groupies—have crafted an illusion of him in their minds, molding him into the archetype of a cocky, unfeeling, psychopathic “bad boy.” And yes, to some extent, Richard played into this persona—his detached courtroom demeanor, his nonchalant, “I don’t give a damn” attitude, all of it contributed to the myth. But the painful truth is that Richard was not some larger-than-life supervillain. He was a deeply broken, traumatized, and sensitive man who never received the help he so desperately needed.

    Far from being a master criminal, Richard wasn’t even particularly skilled at burglary. By the accounts of his so-called “partners in crime,” he was reckless—drawing attention to himself and often taking little of real value. (Not that this excuses his actions, of course.) But his life experiences, the abuse, the neglect, the suffering—these are what truly pushed him to the fringes of society. He was an outcast, a black sheep, a man who never quite fit anywhere. That is the real Richard Ramirez—not the airbrushed fantasy these fans project onto him.

    Those edited images aren’t about Richard at all. They are about the fans and their desires. They erase the reality of who he was and replace it with their own fantasies, sculpting him into a figure that never existed. But the truth cannot be molded like an AI-generated photo. If you actually look at the psychological reports, it becomes painfully clear that Richard had a deeply negative self-image. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that he saw himself as lesser than those around him. He cannot be both things—the untouchable, arrogant predator and the insecure, self-loathing outcast. And in my opinion, only one of those versions has the evidence to back it up.

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      I couldn’t agree more, and the painful truth is “hidden in plain sight” (and literally on Plain Site) within those brutal psych reports, and by the declarations of people who knew him.

      The psycho bad boy is a manipulation of an image he portrayed in court.

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    2. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Yes , thats exactely how I feel when I see those courtroom performances . I found him good looking with elegant moves , like most of us ,…but at the same time I felt a dark sadness ..as I knew that his performance always would be over very soon , and he would go straight back to his awful , small , narrow cell. And I asked myself why he made those performances. I even wondered whether he had a coach for this walks and the steps he did ..because in my opinion he walked like an actor or profi model, at least sometimes . So ..its not so surprising to me that the girls and women went crazy for him ..but ..they want to see him as a ” Master ” etc. which is completely beyond me. I like him much more since I know about his lifestory , the psych reports and the possibility existing , that it might not have been him who commited all of those unspeakable crimes … And still there are enough questions left… But those fangirls ..thats a real bad phenomenon and it leaves me with a pessimistisic almost depressed feeling sometimes , as I realize how less they care and that there is this absolut nothingness about them . .flat charakters who are really unfriendly and also toxic in their ignorance… Why don t they read some exciting love story books or something like that? When I stumbled into Richards case I had no idea about the fangirl craze which was going to come for me and I didn t have any idea about all this merchandise of Richard either…So this was and is a highly demanding and exciting experience for me !

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Well, this isn’t a “fansite”, and we definitely don’t encourage (or want) that behaviour here.
        We’ve always emphasised that it’s for serious discussion only and it always will be.

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  12. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I laugh everytime I hear Gil talk, he’s seems so confident in his statement without even thinking if it makes sense or not! Like for example Maria was spared cuz 1. She looks liked like Richard’s sister 2. She didn’t show fearing her eyes. Ummmmmm what person in her situation wouldn’t show fear?! She was just shot!

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  13. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I notice that I ve repeated myself about Richards behaviour in the courtroom and all that , sorry..that can become really boring .

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      Discussing his behaviour and why he likely behaved in that manner isn’t boring. I imagine I have repeated myself on here a thousand times. If it’s a relevant topic it isn’t boring and the court room demeanour is partly to blame for the wider perception of his character. You don’t have to apologise for talking about his behaviour or attitude.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , the courttroom demeanour shows facettes of his charakter , it s mostly looked upon as being arrogant and cold but it can also be interpretated as protective and he did nt want to be seen as to be down , I understand that. Its just because there is this big contrast to how this councel woman Ellen Demetrio saw him . I felt sorry for him in the courtroom .. He didnt convince me to dominate the situation but it was so impressive too. He fought with his own means ..

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Do you mean the jury consultant, Jo Ellan Dimitrius?

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Yes, some of his letters seem wildly far fetched. Sometimes I wonder if he did it for engagement because his life effectively stopped at age 25.
        We know the person who started that animated video, I used to talk to her a lot, but then she vanished.
        As for his letters to Mercedes, one of his nieces, Jennifer (who does not grift) once had a private Instagram page where she would show the odd thing, it was supposed to stay within her page, but of course the “usual suspects” started sharing things around Twitter (as it used to be) and so they’re all over the place now. Tumblr might still have some somewhere.
        Of course you’re not annoying, this is how we learn. Keep chatting and engaging with us.

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        She was active on the old Twitter before a lot of us got banned. I have no idea if she’s continuing with the project.

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        Yes, it’s been ages now. She was very interested in the case at one time but I lost contact with her after she moved countries.

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        I think she was very committed to his guilt, although it went a lot deeper than on the surface. We had some very intense conversations and I know she had put in a lot of “leg work”, both figuratively and literally. I hope I make contact with her again one day, she was interesting.

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      7. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I believe it was him, yes!

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  14. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    there’s this paranormal guy I’m watching about the Cecil hotel that said someone saw Richard enter the back I think from the hotel with his bloody underwear! That’s a new one for me!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yeah that is common claim by people lying that they saw him. It comes from Carlo as usual.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        There was another paranormal group claiming to have seen his ghost wandering Glendale with a machete. Hahaha!

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        No way hahaha! They’re also at the cemetery in El Paso in a few episodes… The wrong one.

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        I saw one of those, too. It is so ridiculous.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Why is it always Richard and Cecil hotel! It’s so annoying!

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      5. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        And how can Carlo write the stuff about the bloody underwear …in Crimereli channel his niece Shelley says that Richard s family were very upset after they ve read the Carlo book ! I did nt know that. The Carlo book gets soo on my nerves .And , where did they meet to plan the book ..? Maybe they had sth.like a parte order. Prison was Richards home…

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    Camille

    Was it Evergreen Cemetery that he slept in? I’m not sure.

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      That’s more likely than the Concadia. He used to hang out with his friends in the Evergreen, which was closer to his home.

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  16. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes , I mean Jo Ellen Dimitrius …the counsel for whom he draw those sweet little pictures with animals …There is s big contrast to those performances in the courtroom .. I think this is actually very sad …this contrast ! PLUS I ve watched other , very different courttoom behaviours . He is not always this cool Macho person . Sometimes he seems childish , sometimes he seems desinteresst , sometimes he seems funny .. So ..I wonder about this changing demeneaour . Why he didnt care about to always be the cool Macho…but ..it was what it was in the end..? Plus ive seen one edit with Carillo ..Were Carillo says that R.is a very sick Individual..LOL.Sorry .I m laughing now.. …Its when Carillo talks sbout the Dickman case ( I know this is nt funny )

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  17. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    No , sorry . the contrast of demenaours is not sad ..it shows he had many facettes.

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  18. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I commented on the YouTube page the one that Jay posted on here and finally my comment was posted and not deleted!

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      YouTube will automatically delete comments that have certain words or phrases in, or links to things like blogs, etc.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh gotcha! But that YouTuber is truly amazing! I’m so happy they are spreading your work!

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, they are.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yup! And the best part I didn’t read any mean comments so far all are positive!

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  19. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Richard was type O blood few crime scene contained suspect of type A blood so why couldn’t he have been eliminated as the suspect for those cases automatically?!

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      Because it doesn’t prove he wasn’t there, only that someone else was. The type A in Whitney Bennett’s room should’ve been tested against the blood at Mary Louise Cannon’s house, but it doesn’t seem to have been.

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        sarah1997

        That’s crazy that it wasn’t tested like there was a lot to test like the ac/dc hat and stuff yet it wasn’t “important” enough to be tested!

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        Isabella 99

        This is always the same , repeating story in his case , they only did halfway police work , never 100 % . Thats so annoying.. The Pan case , they didnt examine various items , as I remember . And allthough in the Pan case we find the writings Jack the Ripper plus Pentagram ..this is not enough at all plus some other things in this case , allthough they put the handwriting as first as inflammatary circumstancial evidents . And ..there was this burglary near the Pan residence , the suspect must have been a very clever and very mean guy . Almost with a Josef de Angelo style of getting into a house ..But ..I have to reread this . For sure there were lots of guys at that time who were extremely brutal and wild or chaotic or / and also some with the meanest de Angelo style. So this guy ( the burglar ) could have done the Pan crimes too.. But then they would just refer to the writings..and would end up with Richard again.

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        We don’t know what they had on him in the Pan case because he was indicted by grand jury. I suspect not enough, because otherwise they would not have needed to bring in the LA witnesses, which they were going to have to try and do, IF the trial had not been stayed indefinitely.
        That was what Halpin and Carrillo feared the most.

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    sarah1997

    I wonder if they will ever release the evidence box with the hat and sketches of victims original suspect picture that haven’t ever been seen! I remember that the Kyle sketch is there with the “straight white teeth” and I’m sure they have Sakinas as well I mean where else would they have taken it and put it?! It frustrates me that they haven’t taken the “straight white teeth seriously and that some sketches haven’t been ever released only ones I noticed that have been released are the ones that kind resemble Richard until you get to the teeth part

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      I am not so sure that any of the composites resemble him.

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        sarah1997

        What about the Somkid one? Sorry I only meant to say that one sketch not others yes you’re right!

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        The Khovananth one is probably the nearest. If you squint very hard.

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        sarah1997

        Ahhh ok yes cuz I do remember at least one of the sketch is kinda close to Richard but not exactly like him like the one they made public then added that hat on the sketch! I thought that was the somkid one but ok that was the khovananth one I’m guessing? U til you get to the teeth then it’s nothing like Richard at all

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        Her name was/is Somkid Khovananth, it’s the composite she helped to create.

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        sarah1997

        Omg what is happening with me lol ok that’s her

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        Are you confusing Carol Kyle’s composite with Somkid Khovananth’s?

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        sarah1997

        I think so? Carol Kyle’s was the one with the straight white feet written on it and somkid Khovananth was the one that kinda but not really looked like Richard but with out the hat then they added the hat? Or am I confusing them like you said lol?

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        That’s right, you’ve got it.

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        sarah1997

        Oh thank god lol I’m terrible with names and sometimes information I’ll forget! Ok ok good o got that! Haha thnx so much Jay!

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    Isabella 99

    I ve also seen the new SataysMash edit and its again so well done , I hope they will get lots of more views. Whenever I m busy with doing some research on Richards case I get so fustrated because of all the failures and injustice.This can not stay as it is..At least the true facts must go out to the public. I m so annoyed right now about Carillo speaking about Richards Kill Kit and the pungent smell , that he stunk ..!

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      Yes, they’ve taken the information from Venning’s post about his appearance. It’s very well done.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , the Grand Jury..but what I have read ., Grand Jury is always very near to the judge. The jugde can influence the G.J. ..Anyway I ve seen two docu s on the Power of Judges in USA…And then” some things ” got much more clear to me. The judges are so so powerful in USA !

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    Isabella 99

    The Somkid scetch ..there was some resemblance , the only one , but after they had that , did nt they do a sort of morphing with it ? And then finally put the cap on his head ? And what do you think about Somkids scetch ? And what was it what spoke against him as the suspect ? ( sorry ..my memory a bit bad again ) Do you think it went allright with Somkids scetch ? As I see a resemblance as well…and it confused me .

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      Whether or not it truly resembles him is subjective. I think it’s incredibly vague but probably closer than, say, the Kyle or Hernandez one.
      To refresh yourself on the evidence, etc, re read the post again, or your book. Remember the Khovananth attack/murder took place on the same night as the Kneiding murders.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        The resemblance of the Somkid sketch requieres some power of imagination I think ..Its mainly the form of the face ..and the eyes maybe . And when one imagines the extrem tension of a situation the mouth / lips are not relaxed but pressed. I will read this again.

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    2. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I wrote about it all here. https://expendableforacause.net/2025/04/01/engineeringthenightstalker/
      Also the book Part 4, sections I and II explains this part of the case. Then there’s Part 6 section II.

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    Isabella 99

    Oh , I ve just looked at both of the fotos in the Wanted Poster by the police. And I m surprised that only the one with the cap has a bit of resemblance ! The other one does look like a much older face than Richards face , I would never think its Richard , if I would not know the story . So ..sure one gets influenced by what you know or what you have heard. The foto without cap looks like a man in his 40 ties to me.

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    Isabella 99

    I know its both supposedly Richard .Both faces look awful actually .. I could only assume that the expression of the face must have been under extrem tension and stress ,as it looks hard and old.

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    Vivi

    This may not be directly related to this post, but I have a question about the jury selection process. I understand that selecting and vetting jurors took a considerable amount of time, which makes sense given the high-profile nature of the case. However, I recently came across something interesting: I heard that some members of the jury pool actually volunteered to serve.

    I find this rather odd because, generally, people are not eager to participate in jury duty. Most individuals show up begrudgingly, as it is a civic obligation rather than something they actively seek out. The idea that some people may have willingly put themselves forward for a months-long, highly publicized trial raises some concerns for me. Could they have wanted to be part of something sensationalized? Could they have gone into the trial with preconceived notions, believing it was their duty to “ensure that justice was served” by convicting Richard from the outset?

    Something about this does not sit right with me. The integrity of a jury is crucial in ensuring a fair trial, and if potential jurors were entering the process with a bias of “serving justice”, especially in a case as infamous as this one that is deeply concerning. I am unsure if this has been discussed on this blog before, but I wanted to ask if any of you have come across any credible information regarding this aspect of jury selection.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Hi, yes, we have a post on here regarding the jury selection process.
      Arturo abandoned the proceedings and left Daniel Hernandez to cope with this alone; he’d never partipated in voir dire in a death penalty case.
      He called Halpin a “bigot” (which he was) and Tynan acted as a character witness for the prosecutor. Unheard of..
      Kaycee wrote a post a while ago, so I am putting it here for you.

      Presumed Guilty

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      And I believe that no juror would’ve dared to find him “not guilty”, even if he’d had OJ’s Dream Team of lawyers. Richard was presumed guilty from the outset, and in reality, his defence did little to test the prosecution’s case, as you know. The jurors had nothing to weigh up, because his defence were abysmal and failed to show due diligence. They should never have been allowed within 100 feet of that court room.

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        Vivi

        I hate that I keep searching for ways Richard could have been saved from this terrible fate—ways that his life could have taken a different path, and the victims could have found true justice. It haunts me, leaving a heavy pit in my heart, an ache that refuses to fade. The thought of it traps me in an endless loop of what-ifs, suffocating in the weight of something that can never be undone. And if I feel this way, just imagining it—how must Richard have felt, living it? The sheer horror of it all is overwhelming.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I understand how you feel, the magnitude of everything that went wrong, from his earliest years, to the day he was sentenced him to death, is staggering.
        People don’t want to hear it but we won’t shut up; the evidence was weak and they knew it.
        One of the most common questions is “Why wasn’t he executed years before?” To those that really study the case the answer is obvious.
        Because they screwed up so badly his appeals were still not exhausted by the time he died. It’s all laid out in black and white, and I imagine they never envisaged a day when we could search out documents they’d rather have stayed buried.

        All of us who researched and wrote suffered from burn out and dark feelings, sometimes we had to turn away because we couldn’t believe what we were reading.
        It passed for “justice” because they said so.

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        VenningB

        It makes me feel almost physically ill sometimes.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , we all won t shut up .

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    Isabella 99

    I ve read about the Neiding and Kovananth cases again now and Somkids description says that she saw a thin , tall man , aged about 35 to 40. Thats what I feel when I look at the police sketches , I would say the guy looks much older than Richard ! PLUS to me its hard to imagine how he did 2 of those hardcore crimes in one night , actually one after the other…I would say that s the same in the Bell / Lang crime which happened before the Kyle attack..and all of this after he came back from El Paso plus he also went to the dentist to have a crown cemented..I just dont get it how all of this could have worked ..the whole logistics ..how did he do all that . ???

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      The prosecution said that Richard left the murdered Kneidings and arrived at the Khovananth’s house “within minutes”. It was 15 miles away, so how long were these “minutes”? Somkid did not describe a man soaked in blood (as he absolutely would have been) and there was no cross contamination from one crime scene to the other.
      Sgt John Yarbrough said that the attack on Bell and Lang was in progress at 5.29, as that was the exact time their electric clock stopped when the cable was cut/wrenched. Yet Carol Kyle said she was woken up by the man who attacked her at 4.30am. Bell and Lang were the first victims, and lived about 20 miles away from Kyle.
      Something doesn’t add up. Perhaps his Satanic powers helped him to teleport and be in two places at once… lol

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        Vivi

        The timelines, locations, evidence, and testimonies simply don’t align—you’d have to twist logic into knots just to make sense of some of it. I fully understand that victims and witnesses experience immense stress and trauma when recounting what happened, both immediately after the crime and later in court. Memories can be distorted under such pressure. But this isn’t a case of minor discrepancies—a few miles off, a few minutes apart. We’re talking about crimes committed over a dozen miles away from each other, occurring within nearly the same time frame, yet Richard was somehow blamed for all of them. How does that add up?
        And then there’s the glaring issue of forensic consistency—or rather, the lack of it. Given the sheer brutality of some of these attacks, with victims losing enormous amounts of blood, you’d expect some degree of cross-contamination between crime scenes. But there wasn’t any. None. That defies all logic! How is it possible that someone could leave behind such chaos, such violence, and yet the evidence remains neatly compartmentalized? It makes absolutely no sense!

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        It defies all logic.

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      VenningB

      Yeah I’ve always thought that the drawing looks borderline middle-aged. I know that Richard looked a little rough at the time of the arrest, but you can see from the Dec 1984 mugshot that he’s a young man. He had no signs of ageing at all. Another thing is that the victims give different ages. Maria Hernandez said her man was young, between 19 and 25. Weird that someone attacked by the “same man” should put him 10-15 years older.

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        Isabella 99

        And remember the restaurant owner and workers in the Mexican fastfood were he was seen a couple of times . They remembered him well because he was a person who was striking ..and they said he looked wild or something like that , most because his hair was so unruly. The guy in the sketch looks old and hard , worn out.

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      2. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        The descriptions , or rather the lack of usable , reliable descriptions is like a proof to me that it was not him , because he was just so striking ! I don t understand those bad descriptions at all. He was such a tall young man and I ve read what the attacker did. I don t like to discuss that here but ..nevertheless I don t understand those descriptions.

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        kaycee0823

        A 19 year old typically looks younger than someone who is 25.

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    Isabella 99

    And many people discuss his cocain abuse as a fueler , enhancer. We don t know that , the effects of cocain are dubious anyway as when it comes to act reasonable or efficent , I think thats dependant on a persons individual way of reacting to this kind of drug. Is there anything known about this ? I guess no. I also asked myself wether the dentist didn t say anything special about Richard at that time..Richard must have been stressed , nervous wreck somehow ..especially when he did awful crimes before or in between.he went to the dentist ..at least striking in his demeanour or in his looks , the clothes ..whatever. In general they make this sooo easy for themselves to claim he did all this , but I have no idea how he could have done all that.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Yeah.. speed truly is a wonder drug, right? 🤔

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  30. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    has anyone seen this two part YouTube about Richard made by true crimereli? She did it with Richard’s niece Shelly and some other guy and the way they were talking about his love for Satan and stuff omgggg

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      Yes..what a grift. It’s where Shelly admits he’s her “hustle”.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Shelley should never have said that of course..wether true of not true . Its a pity that most of his relatives seem to be very weak characters.

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        sarah1997

        It’s crazy! And once again they get their info from Carlo himself! And then Robert mentions Richard killed the police dog and I remember you Jay stating that a family member of Richard that you have contact with I believe said it’s false and not true.

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        That incident is false.

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        sarah1997

        Oh for sure! Cuz of it was true wouldn’t have been in his records? Cuz killing a police dog is a criminal offence and it’s dumb how people actually believe such bullshit!

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      Isabella 99

      Yes . LOL if seen it and honestly ..I was a bit furious …This woman and also the guy with the hat are just awful…I have no words …But I will watch it again in order to understand what Robert says .Shelly is not as bad here as in the other stuff I ve seen , at least this is my impression. The guy with the hat is a boring storyteller who loves to talk too much .

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        sarah1997

        Hahah I totally agree! They act like all of a sudden they are Richard experts and their main focus is always about Satan! And then they apply that with the crimes it’s just awful!

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      sarah1997

      Ya i totally agree with you! She acts like she’s trying to expose Richard like ummmm yes but you’re exposing the lies said about him and same with his family those 2! And the guy with the hat acts like he knows Richard and what was on his mind and stuff like shut up dude! They put too much focus on Satan instead of the the true real stuff like his HEALTH! And victims original report! Then Shelly gets defensive about some people calling her a lier about Richard assaulting her

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  31. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Is it prooven that he was at the dentists? I think its written somewhere, in a card .

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      Yes it is. Re read “The Dentist Conundrum” post, it shows a timeline of his movements as far as we know.

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        Isabella 99

        Because , when he really was at the dentists, then this fact would proove to me that he was Not the guy who did all that . I just can not imagine anyone would go to the dentist in the middle ( or in between) such crimes. Plus someone with cocain addiction ? How that ? Obviously all those incidents didn t play any role ! But they should have , because they are important , and we don t have to be Sherlock Holmes to know this.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , I have read the dentist conodrum , and there is a dentist date written , in the timeline when he was in El Paso. Even the simple fact that he was at Jennifers communion before those crimes( Bell / Lang , Kyle ) plus dentist date , seems so strange somehow..how does it all fit together…But it is a true fact that he wanted to have his teeth done , as this is prooved 100 % by the x Rays , there is proof to that ! And he went to the dentist (during , after or inbetween the 3 crimes happened ) .At least this was written on a timetable I ve seen.

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      Jennifer’s communion was 25th, he was last seen in El Paso on the 29th. His dental appointment was on 30th in LA but we don’t know the time. Bell, Lang and Kyle were attacked in the early hours of the 30th. Bell and Lang weren’t discovered until 1st June, and the injuries were thought to be about two days old.

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        kaycee0823

        Interesting that there’s no appointment time mentioned anywhere. Maybe that info is hidden somewhere deep in the archives.

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    sarah1997

    I’ve never ever heard of any serial killers that killed more than 1 victim in a day, it’s always through a span of time one by one, and no criminal would kill then few minutes later kill again and again while covered in blood! Makes absolutely no sense.

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      Isabella 99

      Bundy did that I think , but I m not sure . In Richards case ..my power of imagination leaves me… I ve seen the fotos of the communion ..and how could he have done those crimes only 4 to 5 days later…

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        VenningB

        It’s weird to imagine him spending time with his family, then doing those awful things, so soon after, isn’t it?

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        Isabella 99

        Yes . Hard to imagine.

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        kaycee0823

        I don’t buy it. How can people be so gullible?

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        sarah1997

        Hmmm ya seems a bit out of place Richard’s skills considering he was a petty criminal

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    Isabella 99

    The guy who did all that dragged the female victims through the house by their hair …this image comes to my head sometimes …And I can not imagine it was him .

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    Isabella 99

    When I go back to the descriptions there s one thing which I miss . No one stressed that the guy was very young !? No matter what ..Richard was a young man and the way of moving , or his demeanour was like a young man too.

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      kaycee0823

      Somkid said her attacker looked to be between 30-35 years old. I have a hard time grasping how anyone could mistake Richard’s “baby face” for someone who was in the 30-35 age group. He didn’t even have a hint of facial hair. He definitely had a young looking face.

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        sarah1997

        he also was seen without a shirt and he’s also hairless and I believe one victims claimed her attcker was hairless if I remember correctly! And also they say Richard said this Richard said that but then where is all this proof and recordings today you have why haven’t they been released? What are they hiding?

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        I am not sure I understand you. Seen where without a shirt? Do you mean the photo taken after his arrest? And who claimed her was hairless? Are you talking body hair? Facial hair or hair on his head?
        Kathy Moore said she was attacked by a man with thinning hair, is that what you’re talking about?

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        sarah1997

        Oh my sorry wasn’t clear haha, yes the photo taken after his arrest! I thought one of the victims claimed that her attacker had chest hair maybe I’m wrong and understand! Maybe it was Kathy Moore then! For some reason I kept thinking it was Sakina

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        “Transitional” hairs were found, presumably in the bed.
        They were thought to have come from some point between pubic region and chest. That’s when the video narration mentions that Richard was hairless on his torso.
        Kathy Moore was talking about the hair on his head, not body.

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        sarah1997

        Ahhh ok I see. This case sometimes really confuses me. But thank god there’s you guys clearing it out for us! Thank you so much!

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        Of course it goes without saying that the hairs they found were not Richard’s.

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        sarah1997

        Indeed! He was also type O blood and the attacker on few cases was type A, so it couldn’t haven been Richard I keep reading that if it’s not Richard people think is the original night stalker Aka golden state killer, I mean they say he took a break but I don’t buy that they want every excuse to find a way to show Richard did this crime and not someone else

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        I think you were mixing up Sakina saying “concave chest”.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh ya you’re right I think I did!

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      VenningB

      Also his demeanour is quite childlike. I don’t think you could mistake him for being over 30, let alone up to 40 years old.

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      Isabella 99

      Yes . The fact that he was young and looked even younger plus he even walked young , his moves were young , elastic , tall , thin , but all descripions just soo bad . When I remember Peterson…..Mr Peterson run after the attacker in his house ….It can t have been Richard then. The descriotions are one of the weakest evidents in the whole case.

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    Isabella 99

    And , is nt there more structured Information about the dentist dates ? Richard had big problems with his teeth as we know. ( 12 teeth already gone) . When he sat in the police car after his capture the condition of his teeth must have been soo bad already ! He had some visible gaps …and the front teeth needed crowns …Plus all the missing teeth…What did the cops think when they had him in Hollenbeck police station ?? And . the dentist dates in Chinatown ?? Are there any X Ray s at all ? Those dates are important I think. And ..they should have made exact investigations about the dentist situation. Maybe they did ..but it was forgotten ….

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      VenningB

      It’s always bothered me that they don’t give a time for the appointment which is very important seeing as you’re meant to believe he left Carol Kyle’s house at 6am after two hours of rape and robbery. He’d also supposedly been at Bell and Lang’s the same night between 12am and 5am(!)

      No effort was made to demonstrate that he took the plane from El Paso on 29th May instead of the bus journeys that would have taken well over 12 hours. And nothing to show that he’d been to the dentist early to make that alleged plane journey feasible. He could have left El Paso at lunchtime on 29th, arrived back at 3am and gone to a hotel for all we know, but the prosecutor never presented anything valid or concrete for any aspect of this.

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        These timings are crucial and the prosecution did not prove he was where they said he was and his ridiculous defence let it slide. How could he have been at Bell and Lang’s at 5.29 (according to the testimony of Sgt Yarborough) yet also be at Carol Kyle’s house at 4.30am to 6am? It doesn’t add up. It never did.

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        VenningB

        They’re over 20 miles apart. Maybe the Night Stalker travelled by helicopter…

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        ~ Jay ~

        Transported by Satanic powers.

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        kaycee0823

        They should have gotten the actual treatment records, not just xrays (who knows exactly when they were done). The defense should have had a forensic document expert review them for a timeline and discrepancies.

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        kaycee0823

        I have questions about the timing of the dental appointment. No time is given in anything I have read. Certainly, the time frame of the appointment should have been relevant because of how they were placing Richard at 2 scenes within a short time of each other, and he fit a dental appointment in.

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  37. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Richard’s brother stated that imprison Richard claimed that he did do some crimes and some he didn’t do, I’m so lost lol I’m some of his families are grifters but still

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      ~ Jay ~

      More rubbish. He can’t even say which ones.
      So many “claim” he said all sorts of things, of course no one can prove otherwise. Robert also said he killed a police dog, which did not happen.
      YouTube is full of such claims. None are substantiated or credible.

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        sarah1997

        It makes no sense at all they say one thing but can’t prove it! They say they have all these recordings of Richard com fee confession but where is it ! And yet ppl believe it without proof

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      Isabella 99

      Oh …Just read the comments again again and I feel the confusion and frustration which we sometimes go through.People like Robert and also Crimereli edit contribute to that confusion.

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        sarah1997

        Ya true, and the more they spread these kinds of lies the more it will be hard to spread the truth that’s what I’m worried about

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      VenningB

      Yes, I’m pretty sure he has some kind of dementia, huffing paint in his youth probably caused damaged brain cells. He’s never been a reliable witness. In his statement, he said he has a schizophrenia diagnosis and has learning difficulties, so in my opinion, he’s just a fantasist.

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      sarah1997

      Agreed and I don’t believe anything his ex wife or Shelly his daughter says too all are like GIL

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  38. karinac110a37110 Avatar
    karinac110a37110

    If only Richard was alive today. If he was allowed to read this website in San Quentin 😭 I know he committed crimes but I truly feel bad for him. I wonder if he ever sought treatment for his B-Cell lymphoma? Does San Quentin just let their inmates die without any proper medication? Is that how death row works?

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    1. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      I feel the same as you . And I ve just watched a video about LA. Jail and St. Quentin State Prison …I ll never understand how to live and survive in one of those boxes for 24 years . And ..me too , I don t think Richard got any theraphy or so….

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        karinac110a37110

        Slightly off topic, but it seems every documentary or media report (not that they’re ever accurate!) but they seem to all report that RR was a drifter who was constantly high on drugs and stole cars, drove around sneaking into people’s houses and eventually murdering them.
        But then in RR’s letters, he writes how he had an apartment in Hollywood and in multiple letters he wrote how he’d go surfing or bodyboarding almost everyday in Los Angeles. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
        Is the “lone, Texas drifter” just another untrue story to paint RR as an “Intelligent, Satanic monster?”

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        His letters are an enigma. He was rumoured to have shared an apartment with two lesbians, no idea if it was Hollywood ( I doubt it) but he didn’t have an apartment himself. Who these women were (if it was true) we don’t know.
        Trying to imagine him surfing always makes me laugh, I can see him running along Venice Beach snatching bags, not sure about surfing. I hope he did do something like that every now and then.
        Richard had friends who he’d known since boyhood and he stayed with them regularly. Horrifically, even though they eventually betrayed him, they said he was “real nice” and a “sweet guy”.
        Labelling him the Texas drifter was to emphasise the horror of this outsider causing destruction in perfect LA.
        The Reagan administration focused a lot on family values, and Richard was portrayed as a devil in their midst. Remember the Satanic Panic was at its peak, with the McMartin Preschool trial running concurrently with his.
        The hype was contrived, with many TV shows about Satanic cults. To them, he was everything they feared.

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        kaycee0823

        I wonder if Venice Beach smelled of piss and skunk weed more so then than now? 😆😆

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        I think it is probably worse now. It was so disgusting/disappointing. 😅

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      Richard’s treatment (or non treatment) will be in his medical records and they remain confidential. His death certificate notes the lymphoma as a lately diagnosed secondary cause of death. The main cause seems to have been liver failure brought on by Hepatitis C, and it’s possible that the Hep C masked the symptoms of his lymphoma. There was no autopsy performed, only a biopsy of the liver.
      As for SQ and terminally ill inmates, I believe they have to have some sort of treatment, but I am not sure how much. Although he never received any for his neurological conditions/epilepsy. That was noted in his psychological evaluations.

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        VenningB

        So I’ve heard. But recently, I was in communication with a pen friend who showed me a letter where he was trying to arrange a meeting with her in 2012. He said he hadn’t visited with anyone in “a few years” but was willing to. It never happened because the prison somehow never received her visitor form that he sent. Others have said that he offered to send them forms but they never came. I suspect the prison was confiscating them for whatever reason.

        The same pen pal said that he told her he rarely heard from his mother and siblings, which is sad.

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        The communication you had with that penpal is very interesting, as it strongly suggests SQ was actively preventing anyone visiting him. He was clearly trying to arrange that particular person to visit.

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        VenningB

        And it also fits with what some pen pals posting on Reddit have said about his last years.

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    3. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      From what I understand about death row—at least here in the United States—it’s hard not to see how people condemned to it are treated as if they’re worth less than animals. The dehumanization is almost systemic. A significant portion of those on death row live with severe cognitive impairments, intellectual disabilities, and overwhelming poverty. That fact alone doesn’t erase the gravity of the crimes they were convicted of, but it does reveal something deeply troubling about how our justice system operates. It forces us to ask: what kind of system disproportionately targets the most vulnerable and broken among us?

      The financial cost is staggering. It takes hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars—often more—to carry out a single execution. And yet, rather than spend that money on rehabilitation, proper legal representation, or even basic humane treatment, many prisons seem to default to neglect and cruelty. It’s easier that way. It’s easier to keep inmates locked in claustrophobic, psychologically triggering cells. To deny them meaningful medical care. To feed them meager rations. To restrict their time outdoors, their opportunities for recreation, and their ability to connect with others in any meaningful way.

      These unspoken yet widely practiced conditions—combined with the already existing mental and cognitive impairments many inmates arrive with—form a perfect storm. One that deteriorates health, accelerates suffering, and often leads to death by so-called “natural causes.” It’s convenient, really. A quiet, unsensational death means one less person to execute. One less case to pay for. One more slot open on death row.

      Let me be clear: I’m not asking for luxury. No one is suggesting five-star meals or unlimited freedom to roam. I understand the need for security, for safety, for structure. But what I do ask for—what I believe we must ask for—is a basic standard of human decency. Some recognition that these people, regardless of their pasts, are still human beings. Still alive. Still feeling.

      And lately, I can’t shake the sense that death row has become a kind of industry in itself—a grim business model where prisons and states trade execution equipment and lethal injection drugs like commodities. It’s hard not to see profit motives and systemic efficiency prioritized over justice and truth.

      Richard’s case in particular has shaken something loose in me. It’s made me deeply question the death penalty as a whole. When a system is this flawed, this riddled with corruption and procedural failure—especially for the poor, the ill, the mentally disabled—how can we possibly justify a punishment as final, as irreversible, as state-sanctioned death? When the evidence used to convict someone can’t withstand legal scrutiny, when appeals are cut short, when bias and negligence dominate the process—what does that say about our commitment to justice?

      The death penalty, in its current form, is not just unconstitutional—it is immoral. It robs people not only of life, but of the right to due process. It denies them the chance to be heard, to be treated fairly, to hope. And in doing so, it denies something fundamental about who we are, too.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , and Richard often was in the Block where the Adjustment Center is ? I ve read that more than once , its an even worse place than normal Death Row . I ve seen some videos about St.Quentin and there s not much about the Adjustment Center . But I ve seen those boxes in Death Row in which the prisoners live..and honestly I don t get it . But it must have been one of those boxes where he lived most of the time ..24 years . He once said : they feed us in our cages …I have problems with that..

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        Vivi

        The U.S. prison system has never truly been about rehabilitation. Despite what we might be told or what the glossy mission statements say, the reality on the ground tells a very different story. As I’ve mentioned before, the vast majority of individuals behind bars come from backgrounds marked by poverty, lack of education, under-resourcing, disability, and serious mental illness. These factors place them at an enormous disadvantage—socially, psychologically, and legally—compared to those who haven’t had to navigate such structural and personal hardships. And yet, instead of addressing these deep-rooted vulnerabilities with care or support, our system punishes them. Mercilessly.

        It often feels like the United States is still trapped in a punitive, archaic legal framework—a remnant of repressive legal traditions where the purpose of incarceration was to punish, to break, to instill fear, and to assert control over marginalized communities. The focus has long been on retribution rather than restoration. There’s little space for compassion or transformation when the system is engineered around pain and containment.

        Contrast this with the principles behind modern, restorative legal systems—those rooted in restorative justice. In theory, these systems aim not only to rehabilitate those who have committed crimes but also to reintegrate them back into society in a healthy, stable way. Restorative systems also recognize the needs of victims and work to provide remedies and healing. They acknowledge that people can change—that healing and accountability are not mutually exclusive. And while it’s true that people on death row may never return to society, that doesn’t mean rehabilitation is futile. Emotional, psychological, and even spiritual healing are still deeply important. Providing them with opportunities for reflection, growth, and some semblance of peace matters. Not just for them, but for us—because how we treat the most condemned among us says everything about the kind of society we are.

        I also can’t help but wonder: what if the prison system had done what it was supposed to do in the first place? How many of the people sitting on death row today might have had a different fate if they’d received meaningful support, intervention, and rehabilitation after their first encounter with the system? If someone had reached out—offered therapy, education, stability, purpose—during an earlier sentence, would they be facing death now? Probably not. And that’s the tragedy. The system fails early and often, and then it punishes those failures with lethal finality.

        Nowhere is this more evident than in places like San Quentin State Prison—a place whose conditions are so bleak, so dehumanizing, that it’s difficult to describe without sounding hyperbolic. But it’s not exaggeration—it’s reality. The conditions are horrific. Honestly, circus animals are treated with more care and dignity. I’ve seen photos of the cells—especially those in the so-called “Adjustment Center”—and they make me feel physically claustrophobic just looking at them. And I’m tiny—like the size of a garden gnome! I can’t even imagine what it must feel like to actually live inside one of those cages, day after day, year after year.

        Richard, for instance, was kept in the Adjustment Center for over three years—despite the fact that, by policy, inmates are only supposed to remain there for a maximum of six months. It’s hard not to see this as cruel and unusual punishment. It reminds me of Jeremy Bentham’s Panopticon—a prison design based on constant surveillance and psychological manipulation. In the Panopticon, inmates are arranged in a circular structure around a central watchtower, so they can never be sure if they are being watched at any given moment. The brilliance—and horror—of the design is that it compels self-policing. Over time, prisoners internalize the gaze. They break themselves down so the guards don’t have to.

        San Quentin doesn’t need to be shaped like a perfect Panopticon to carry out the same psychological violence. The solitary cells, the isolation, the sensory deprivation—it all serves the same purpose: to control, to destabilize, to erase the person bit by bit until there’s almost nothing left to rehabilitate.

        And yet we still call this justice.

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      3. kaycee0823 Avatar
        kaycee0823

        The United States is definitely not in the same league with other industrialized countries when it comes to the death penalty. Some states have made it illegal but it still exists in many and at the federal level. Our prison system is about mass incarnation with high numbers of blacks/Hispanics.

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  39. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    He was 3 years in the Adjustment Center . Is there anything known about that ? I know that prisoners with behaviour problems (means problems to adjust ) were sent there . I ve read a little about E Block Adjustment Center….Then again I also think about Doreen …it must have been so difficult for her too . I made some experiences as well with this friend of mine a long time ago . He had to spend 6 years in a big prison in Hamburg …and he had big problems to ” adjust ” as well .I never forget those visits , nor will I forget the guards …LOL. It was a expierience for life , so to speak . My friend used to pace up and down his cell too , like Richard did and he used to listen to Thunderstruck , Song by AC/ DC !!! . This always happened in the evening , after last meal at 17 h….When he got out there he was completely desorientated , frightened and paranoid for several weeks. And he had read lots of books there , I remember this well. So , my thoughts are often with Doreen , it gets forgotten so often what relatives ( and wifes ) of prison inmates go through . In Richards and Doreens case it must have been undescribable , I have no idea what it was like to be with someone who was never to walk out prison again . And ..when I think about the Doreen haters on You Tube …but then ..they can t be taken seriously , its hopeless people .

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  40. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Hey have any of you guys seen this video. It doesn’t really have new footage of Richard but it does of Philip Carlo (at least I think). Here is the link: https://youtu.be/EwtbB46H54s?si=o2rUk9XrkrQU88_l

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      That’s interesting: the news report about the rigged line-up. It’s infuriating that after everything, they were allowed to get away with the line-up shit to the point that it was still an issue at the third appeal stage. Ridiculous system.

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        ~ Jay ~

        We put a news report about witnesses mingling and overhearing/seeing who each was identifying in “Shapeshifter”.
        I will watch this later, I can’t view it at the moment.

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    2. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      I completely understand the internal tug-of-war—the desire to stand my ground, to not give in to the flood of sensationalist garbage pumped out about Richard, and yet still feeling this intense need to know. To understand what exactly is being said, how the narrative is being twisted, what lies are being recycled as truth. It’s that car crash effect—you don’t want to look, you know it’s going to be disturbing, but your eyes are still drawn to it. It’s this toxic push and pull, this psychological whiplash that chips away at you the longer you stay in it.

      That’s exactly why I made the idiot mistake of spending almost $20 of my own hard-earned money on Carlo’s sorry excuse for a “book”—as if feeding that machine would somehow give me clarity. And then there was the Peacock “documentary,” which felt less like a documentary and more like an extended character assassination wrapped in flashy visuals. Sitting through that was like voluntarily signing up to be emotionally waterboarded—enduring wave after wave of misinformation, all dressed up as entertainment. It didn’t just make me angry—it left me mentally and emotionally drained. I felt hollow after watching it, like I had absorbed some of the cruelty they were dishing out and it had taken root in me.

      And now Rosie. When she started polling the hybristos for content, that was it for me. Any remaining respect I had for her evaporated instantly. The whole thing feels like a grotesque scavenger hunt where the prize is profit and the cost is human dignity. It’s not just disrespectful to Richard—it’s dehumanizing. It’s a circus, and the media plays ringmaster, gleefully orchestrating the spectacle while pretending it’s all in the name of justice or “awareness.”

      But the truth is, consuming that kind of content—especially when you know how much of it is fabricated or distorted—takes a real toll. It messes with your heart, your head, your sense of truth. It makes you feel complicit, even when your intention is to stay informed. And worse, it leaves you with this lingering guilt—like you betrayed your own principles just by pressing play or turning the page. I won’t be buying Rosie’s book. Not now, not ever. I refuse to keep paying the emotional price for someone else’s exploitation.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Ours goes into it, too, but I think we go further. 😁
        I have Carlo’s book, be aware he appears to make up a lot of things, including the intricacies of Richard’s relationship with Miguel. In our book we show how impossible much of what Carlo says about Miguel and Richard is because Miguel was in a mental hospital/and or prison. Carlo also moves Richard to LA 18 months before the reality.
        That aside, the trial section is really useful and is the best part of the book.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Not to my knowledge. As far as we know he gave two interviews only, both in English.

        I have a later edition of Carlo’s, the one with bits of the interview at the back.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I hope you enjoy it, there’s a bit more info in it than on here. Obviously we think it’s much better than Carlo’s. 😁
        The intention to write the book came from Venning when we realised we couldn’t protect the blog completely. We had to make sure that years of research wasn’t lost if we were shut down on here.

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        There are a few solid insights into Richard’s life, but I think Carlos’s book does a much better job covering the trial. Some of the background info is interesting, but a lot of it is exaggerated, made to paint him as ‘Satan’s Spawn.’

        Also, sorry if I sounded a little harsh earlier lol. I just get really frustrated when people blatantly profit off of Richard and the victims while discrediting the incredible work that Jay, KayCee, and Venning have done to uncover the truth. It’s not about idolizing Richard—it’s about telling the story accurately and respectfully, including for the victims. That’s why the Rosie book really gets under my skin, especially considering she’s his niece.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Rosie is blatantly cashing in. Like you, my interest vanished with the fangirl courting and ‘bragging rights’ over Richard.

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      6. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        The trial was the only legit part of his book. You really see the corruption going on. It’s weird how he chose to show the truth of it while simultaneously creating more myths.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I always wonder about that, too. He left a trail but few picked up on it.

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      8. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I think anyone who’s thinking rationally would have had more than a few questions about Richard’s trial—it was clearly mishandled in so many ways. The leaps in logic are just too big to ignore, even for someone like Carlo. The issue is, even for the people who did have doubts back then, they didn’t have access to tangible evidence like the 2008 Writ to support their arguments. That’s why the internet, when used thoughtfully and with the right intentions, can be such a powerful tool. It finally gave people a way to uncover and share what had been buried or overlooked.

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      ~ Jay ~

      It’s now been blocked due to copyright issues. Damn! I hope we can track it down somewhere else.

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Damn that was fast!

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I managed to get screenshots of the blonde kidnapper on my phone before it went…

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      Isabella 99

      Ohhh what was this edit about , it a pity its gone !! I often wished we could get hold of more more more Information.. whatsoever .. The Carlo book is good to have , I think actually it is a MUST to have . Alllthough very contraversal its a basic tool in Richards case , I m glad to have it . Part 3 is quiet well written too.

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  41. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I knew I should’ve downloaded it.

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  42. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I managed to track down the full Fox documentary I mentioned earlier—Beware the Night Stalker, which originally aired on Fox Nation back in 2019. It’s a three-episode series, with each episode running around 30 minutes, so there’s definitely more content than the short clip I previously linked.

    The only downside is that it requires a paid monthly subscription to access the full series, which is a bit of a hassle. I’m honestly surprised I hadn’t come across this documentary sooner, but that might be because it didn’t generate much buzz or public attention—much like the Peacock documentary, which also seemed to fly under the radar despite its subject matter.

    I’m considering watching it myself, just to see if it includes any previously unseen interviews or archival footage that could offer new insight. If anyone else is interested, here’s the direct link to the series: https://nation.foxnews.com/watch/ae42f256a94ede642dc046ed0059eb3e/

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      Oh well done! Thanks for the link.

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      Ugh, it’s restricted for the UK. Typical.

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        Vivi

        Let try to find one that isn’t geo-restricted. I apologize I should’ve checked!

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        ~ Jay ~

        You will have to watch it for us and give us a full report. Hahaha!

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Yes ma’am, I’m fully prepared to suit up, march into the battlefield, and willingly subject myself to this dumpster fire of a documentary—because who doesn’t love a little emotional trauma for fun, right? 😂 Wish me luck, I’m going in.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Kaycee is right with you, she’s subjecting herself to it as well. Thanks guys! 😅

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        kaycee0823

        It was terrible.

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        VenningB

        We need VPNs for all this terrible shit!

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        Vivi

        Why is so much stuff restricted in the UK?

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think it’s more to do with Fox than the UK.

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        Vivi

        That’s probably it! Given the way the Fox network operates nowadays, I have to admit I’m a little surprised by how deeply invested and involved they were in the Richard Ramirez case back then. It seems like a significant portion of the archival footage that continues to circulate—whether it’s courtroom clips, press coverage, or those infamous grainy crime scene reels—originated from their coverage. It’s almost as if they had a front-row seat to the entire media circus and made sure to document every moment.

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      kaycee0823

      Interesting. I’ve never heard of this documentary.

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    4. kaycee0823 Avatar
      kaycee0823

      Wow. That’s awesome. I’m sure it will annoy me and make me very mad but I wanna watch it just to see what’s on it.

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      Vivi

      From what I’ve seen so far, there’s a bit more footage of Carlo, along with some additional courtroom clips that weren’t in the more widely circulated coverage. I haven’t made it through the entire documentary yet, so I’m still piecing things together—but I’ll definitely do my best to fill you all in as I go. If anything noteworthy pops up—whether it’s a rare interview, a new angle on the trial footage, or just more of Carlo being… well, Carlo—I’ll make sure to share the highlights. Stay tuned, I’m taking one for the team with this one lol.

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        Hahaha! Thanks, Vivi, you truly are doing great work here.

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      Isabella 99

      I ve found two trailers of that Fox nation Nightstalker thing ..At least there is this series of 3 episodes around somewhere….And there is Lisa Bunnie from You Tube…she tried to get hold of it to 3 years ago ! She was trying to but in a comment she says that she must be in the streaming Abo or so , and she sounded annoyed . Vivi ..thanks for finding it at all !

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        It’s full of shit, Kaycee watched it and gave us the lowdown. The documentaries are all a waste of time. It’s ridiculous.

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        Vivi

        I couldn’t have said it better myself, nothing less than brain rot. I was hoping to see some new court footage or at least some tidbit on Richard. Nothing. Waste of $8 in my opinion. No wonder it gained no traction.

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      3. kaycee0823 Avatar
        kaycee0823

        I just watched it for a second time because I had to make a list of all the deceptions and misleading information. It is so full of outright lies. Absolutely trash! I think it’s the worst documentary I’ve seen about him.

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        It’s mind boggling that people invested money for the production of that garbage!!!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Carol Kyle skipped over again.

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      6. kaycee0823 Avatar
        kaycee0823

        It’s the worst I’ve seen. And that’s saying a lot.

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      7. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I thought it was worse than the Peacock Documentary and I almost threw my remote at my TV while watching it because I was so infuriated.

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      8. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        How many more of these inaccurate documentaries are they going to make? The real story is right here and so much better. It’s deeply depressing.

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        ~ Jay ~

        If only we could do one!

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        Vivi

        I think what we often overlook—or perhaps what we’re encouraged to forget—is that there were, and still are, immensely powerful people standing behind the curtain of this entire public legal charade. Individuals and institutions with resources, influence, and reputations to protect likely have no interest in allowing the truth of this case to come to light. Why? Because exposing what really happened would destabilize the public’s already fragile trust in the justice system and law enforcement. It would pull back the curtain on the uncomfortable reality that our legal institutions can be manipulated—that they’re not always driven by truth or justice, but by optics, pressure, and politics.

        When you look closely at how they managed to pluck a virtually homeless man off the streets and recast him into one of America’s most infamous serial killers, you realize this wasn’t just a case—it was a narrative carefully constructed and aggressively sold. There were—and I truly believe this—deep, unseen forces at play. Individuals with suspicions or doubts were likely silenced, discredited, or simply drowned out by the tidal wave of media frenzy. Public opinion had already been sealed before the facts even had a chance to be debated.

        Just look at the Mei Leung case. It never even went to trial. In fact, from everything I’ve read, Richard wasn’t even indicted for her murder. And yet, decades later, with nothing more than a cheek swab, they claim they conclusively tied him to a cold case from the early 1980s. That alone is astonishing. But what’s even more disturbing is that the DNA reportedly pointed to two individuals—one of whom remains unnamed because he was a minor at the time of the crime. Well, he’s certainly not a minor now. So why the silence? Why is Richard still the only name publicly associated with that case despite the lack of formal charges or conviction? How did that critical piece of information—the presence of a second suspect—get swept under the rug so easily?

        Let’s be honest: information like that doesn’t just disappear on its own. That kind of erasure requires intentionality. It takes influence. It suggests, to me, that people at the highest levels—those with the ability to control narratives and gatekeep justice—made decisions to ensure that Richard remained the sole face of evil, even if the facts didn’t fully support it. In that sense, the legal system isn’t always a mechanism of truth—it becomes a pawn for politicians, law enforcement leaders, and public figures to move as they see fit, all while feeding the public the illusion of resolution.

        Because that’s what it comes down to—optics. Giving the public the outcome they’re clamoring for, even if it’s unconstitutional, even if it’s unjust, maintains the illusion that justice has been served. And for the media? It’s just more content—more headlines, more documentaries, more manufactured drama to package and sell. That’s why we keep getting these shallow, inaccurate portrayals. They’re not made to inform. They’re made to entertain.

        And the most painful part of all this? Even within the so-called true crime community, where you’d expect people to value accuracy and truth, the majority aren’t searching for justice or understanding. They’re chasing spectacle. They want villains, not complexity. Narratives, not nuance. Because the truth—especially the kind we see in cases like Richard’s—is too difficult, too messy, too painful to sit with.

        You’re absolutely right—the real story is here. It’s richer, more unsettling, and far more reflective of the dark realities embedded in our systems. But getting it out there, in full, would require confronting powerful gatekeepers and overcoming systemic resistance. And sadly, most people would rather consume a convenient fiction than confront a painful truth.

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      11. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        There are other things we’ve discussed privately about the powers behind it definitely. We don’t have the evidence yet but something similar happened.

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      12. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        What continues to weigh heavily on my mind is the strong suspicion I’ve had—especially when looking at the pattern of events leading up to the Night Stalker media frenzy. There were earlier child abductions, some of which may very well have been committed by the same individual. Then came a rapid succession of increasingly violent attacks across Los Angeles. These crimes weren’t contained to one neighborhood or demographic—they were chaotic, unpredictable, and deeply terrifying for the public. Naturally, panic spread throughout the city like wildfire.

        In that kind of climate, where fear begins to overwhelm reason, pressure builds—not just on law enforcement, but on politicians, public officials, and institutions of power more broadly. The city demanded answers. The media needed a face. And the justice system, already under fire, needed to appear competent. But here’s the problem: I don’t believe they were equipped—whether due to lack of resources, training, or sheer institutional dysfunction—to actually find the person or people responsible for all of these crimes. And admitting that? Admitting that they couldn’t protect the public or solve these heinous acts? That would’ve completely undermined the public’s trust, their belief in the system, and their sense of security.

        So instead, it seems more likely that someone had to be made the scapegoat—someone who could tie up the chaos with a bow, even if the facts didn’t quite match. Someone the public could fear, the media could vilify, and the legal system could condemn. In that way, the hysteria could be calmed, not with truth, but with closure.

        Now, I’m not in a position to make direct accusations against any specific individuals or institutions—but I can say that something about the way this entire case unfolded feels deeply off. Something about it has always suggested that there were darker, hidden motives at work. This wasn’t just a failure of policing or investigative technique—it feels like something more nefarious was operating beneath the surface. Whether it was driven by political self-preservation, institutional fear, or a desperate need for control, the end result was the same: the truth got buried, and the public was sold a story that made them feel safe, even if it wasn’t real.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Absolutely.
        Think about it, the EARONS (East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker) had out foxed law enforcement in the Sacremento area for years. For years he evaded capture, causing fear, paranoia and media frenzy, until he moved south and vanished. It was within his “hiatus” that the Night Stalker struck and, one imagines, the Sheriff’s office was none to keen to face the media storm if they failed to catch someone.
        Controlling people through fear is easy, when the mayor (who was up for re election) and the media are complicit.
        Creating chaos through terror, and then producing the cause of the mayhem, restores order and public faith. No one could say the LASD failed.. like the cops in Sacremento did.
        No matter if the crimes were unrelated, without anyone to intetervene and challenge (with real vigour) the obviously sketchy evidence, they could weave whatever narrative they chose.
        In many ways this was politics.

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      14. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Exactly. Everything about this case—every headline, every image, every courtroom moment—feels manufactured, contrived, and deliberately manipulated. As much as I criticize the Hernandezes, the truth is they were never in a position to save Richard. No public defender, no private attorney, no matter how skilled, could have stood a chance in the face of the tidal wave of media hysteria, public fear, and institutional pressure. The narrative had already been written before he even set foot in court. From Richard’s perspective, it must have felt like being condemned for nothing more than existing in the wrong place at the wrong time.

        Lately, I’ve been revisiting scraps of archival footage from the trial—just brief moments caught on grainy tape, fragments of a man frozen in time. And I’ll be honest: before I really began to study this case, I probably would’ve interpreted his body language as arrogant or smug—just another killer playing it cool. But now, with clearer eyes and a deeper understanding, I see something entirely different. The subtle tension in his jaw. The way his eyes flicker with unease. The anxious shifting in his seat. I don’t see bravado anymore—I see someone trying to hold himself together while the world collapses around him.

        It’s deeply distressing—haunting, even—to imagine what it must have felt like for him. To know that, no matter what you say or do, the world has already decided who you are: a sadistic child molester, a satan-worshipping serial killer, an irredeemable monster. To realize that your humanity has been stripped away and replaced with a grotesque caricature—something convenient, marketable, terrifying enough to sell stories and satisfy the public’s thirst for retribution.

        And then, to be locked in a cage while the world continues to mock you, misunderstand you, and vilify you—day after day, year after year. That kind of psychological torment isn’t something most people can even begin to comprehend. It’s not just physical imprisonment. It’s emotional and spiritual erasure. Eventually, you’re not even yourself anymore—you become a hollow version of who you were, surviving each day not because of hope, but because you haven’t yet been granted the mercy of death. At that point, the execution chamber doesn’t feel like punishment. It feels like release.

        And that’s the part that shatters me the most. Not just the injustice of it all—but the profound loneliness of it. The idea that someone could be trapped in that kind of pain, that kind of distortion, with no one willing to see beyond the story they were forced into.

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        I see a man on the edge of a nervous breakdown. A while ago I was told something by someone who I can’t name, it was this: “He agreed to play his part because the alternative was unthinkable”.
        They also insinuated threats were made against his family.
        We can’t substantiate that, or verify the truth of it, so we’ve never talked about it openly, but the words stayed with us. To speculate on it would take us into the realm of conspiracy theory, and that’s not who or what we are.

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        Vivi

        I completely agree—it’s not exactly feasible to find concrete, verifiable proof that there was ever some kind of agreement between Richard, his family, and the powerful institutions behind the scenes. The idea that he may have “played the part” of the Night Stalker to avoid a more dangerous or unthinkable alternative is a heavy one, and without hard evidence, it stays in that painful gray area of possibility we can’t quite touch. Like you said, speculating too much risks crossing into territory that feels conspiratorial, and none of us want to lose sight of truth in the process of searching for it.
        Still, I can’t help but feel that something about this case has always felt… off. The way it unfolded, the media’s ferocity, the way certain narratives were cemented so quickly and unquestioningly—it all suggests to me that there were deeper, more invisible forces at work. Maybe we’ll never know the full extent of it. Maybe it was a combination of pressure, fear, and the overwhelming machinery of a system that needed a monster more than it needed clarity.
        I try not to dwell on that possibility too much, because, as you said, there’s no solid ground to stand on when it comes to those claims. But I also can’t bring myself to fully deny it. There are moments—those flickers of humanity in Richard’s eyes, the inconsistencies in the case, the buried details—that whisper of something far more complex, and far more tragic, than the story we were told. And it’s those moments that keep me asking questions, even if the answers never come.

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        I doubt he was meant to make it to trial, to be honest. He would’ve been found guilty whoever defended him, he always knew that.
        I remember on the old Twitter someone saying they thought he’d been offered the Alford plea, because nothing else made sense. However, he WAS handed down 19 death sentences, so that kind of negates that theory.

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        Vivi

        Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the original plan—whether spoken aloud or silently agreed upon—was to shoot him dead right there in the street. That would’ve been the cleanest, quickest way to put an end to the chaos, to silence the questions, and to package the entire ordeal with a neat little bow. No trial, no testimony, no chance for inconsistencies to come to light. Just instant closure.

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        VenningB

        I think that’s why they sent out that special police force. They were told they could kill on sight, I believe.

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        That was (I am certain) the outcome they wanted.

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        ~ Jay ~

        McGowan reported a guy from the LA Times who overheard the cops saying “We don’t want a trial for this guy”. Sadly, we can’t verify that, either.

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      22. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I remember Mayor Tom Bradley said “We don’t need to wait for an arbitrary legal process to run its course before handing out the rewards. We’re satisfied that based on the evidence, we have the right man.”
        And it was only about 10 days after the arrest!

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        Yeah.. the man who was running for re election that year.

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        At this point, I am prepared to believe that Carrillo is a paid stooge to carry on enforcing the “truth”.. as they would have it. He must know what he’s continually spouting is demonstrably false, but such is his fame it’s rarely called out.

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        Vivi

        In some of the more recent interviews and podcast appearances I’ve seen him in, he honestly comes across as… well, a bit senile. There’s this noticeable decline in clarity—he tends to ramble, often circling back to the same old story he’s been telling for decades, as if stuck in a loop. And when the repetition starts to dull the effect, he seems to sprinkle in extra gore or exaggerated violence—like he’s trying to spice up the narrative, keep it sensational enough to hold the audience’s attention.

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        VenningB

        I think he has something wrong with him, like a major health issue. But I won’t post too much here.

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      27. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        I agree.

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        “Stuck in a loop” is right. He’s replaying the same old script over and over.

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        Oh Vivi, that is almost word for word what I believe too. If I could frame this comment, I would. Lol

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      30. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        There are several other serial killer cases I’ve been researching—outside of Richard’s—that exhibit eerily similar patterns: convoluted timelines, contradictory evidence, and a kind of upside-down logic that just doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. I won’t name those cases here, at least not yet, but the parallels are hard to ignore. Once you start noticing them, it’s like peeling back a layer of reality you didn’t know was hiding in plain sight. What really pushed me down this rabbit hole was reading Programmed to Kill by Dave McGowan.

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        Yes.. I read that book, too. I know exactly what you’re talking about.

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      32. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I try to stick to avenues grounded in legal documents and legitimate sources—keyword try—because, let’s be honest, the internet is overflowing with the wildest, most idiotic theories imaginable when it comes to serial killer cases. I mean, one minute you’re reading a court transcript, and the next, someone’s claiming the killer was a government clone possessed by a demonic energy wave from Saturn. It’s exhausting. So for the sake of my sanity—and what’s left of my brain cells—I do my best to keep both feet planted in actual, verifiable reality.

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        Hahaha! I know what you mean. I have to stay away from the documentaries and interviews where they constantly talk about “Satanic vibes” etc, because it’s ridiculous.
        We’ve tried so hard to stick to the legal papers, of course we look deeper and speculate privately, but speculation isn’t good enough.

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      Vivi

      No not really. I thought there a bit of Carlo that I didn’t see before , but after looking through YouTube I realized I already saw it a while ago. It was just a bunch of Satanic serial killer bs and it left out information about a lot of the cases and basically glossed over a bunch of them.

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        VenningB

        I haven’t seen it but there was one clip from 1986 where it showed that the line-up was discussed on the news. I found it interesting that the public were shown all that stuff but there was no outrage and it’s barely mentioned in the newspapers.

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        ~ Jay ~

        They had been told he was the Night Stalker from the night before he was arrested. That’s all they knew and probably didn’t think very hard about it.

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      Apparently it was full of the same old shit. Kaycee has been raging about it, so many facts are wrong. There is not one decent documentary out there, not one.

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        ~ Jay ~

        As you can see, we’re quite good at controversy. Hahaha!
        I really wish we could make it happen.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Gathering all the information itself is honestly the easy part—thanks to the incredible work of Jay, KayCee, and Venning, it’s like having a full archive at your fingertips. They’ve done the heavy lifting when it comes to research, context, and sourcing, which makes diving into the facts so much more manageable. But the real nightmare begins when you try to work with media—especially video clips and images. Uploading anything related to Richard, even a short courtroom clip or a still image, feels like navigating a minefield. It’s ridiculously difficult to get content posted without running into copyright flags, takedown notices, or bizarre platform restrictions. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some kind of AI or automated surveillance system embedded into most major social media and video platforms that specifically targets material related to him.

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        VenningB

        There definitely is. We have a friend Donna who made a private Facebook group to discuss the case and it was removed despite her vetting who went in, it was secret etc. it was banned twice. In our own discussion group, Kaycee has posted his photos and they’ve been removed as inappropriate. My partner mentioned Richard once and the comment was flagged immediately. I’ve heard about private Tumblr messages being removed if they have his photos in. They’re running facial recognition software.

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        And yet those crappy documentaries continue to stay up despite having grossly inaccurate information in them. Weird.

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        They serve the purpose of spreading disinformation whilst appearing legitimate and trustworthy.

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      6. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Might have to use an alias for him on other platforms. Maybe Dedos or Noah Jimenez lol.

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  43. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    And .I have a question about Richards flying habit from El Paso to L.A. Is there anything known about wether he did that at all , or wether once or twice ? And ..did he ever fly to San Francisco ? Was he used to go by plane ? He was very young and mostly short of money it would have been something special I guess . Maybe he did fly once or twice and his family knew this . I think it is interesting to know or find out about .

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      kaycee0823

      I’ve not read anything definitive, but it appears he took the bus to El Paso for the most part. As for SF, I’ve not read anything specifically about how he got there or got from place to place.

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  44. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yeah ..its full of shit this Fox thing …how could it be allright ??? What a pity though !

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    Isabella 99

    There are 2 newer videos by two wilde guys with loud and big shot attitude . They present places in LA. were Richard used to hang around like the Greyhound Bus depot and many others Kato and Zenner ..but I m not sure wether I ve got the right names..

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  46. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I ve read all the new comments and I agree completely …and its so very sad when I remember his irritating performances in the courtroom ….I always felt impressed and it made me so nervous at the same time , as I knew he could not win this game. I have never seen or experienced something like this . But this case is so extraordinary and so depressing when it comes to Richards live and fate that for sure the publicity reached by the blog and book must go on and reach even a much wider audience , but how ? . I did reread all the comments about his burglar friends which gave him away to the police , today as well and…that made me feel awful too. Three of them were given Immunity if they talk and Armando was coerced probably , and one of them got reward money ..While reading I began to convince myself more and more that Richard didn t do those crimes at all ..and that those ” friends” just wanted the money and most of all they wanted to get rid of him forever as he was just a heavy burden to them . Maybe he just got on their nerves and they felt that he d ruin everything . Then I thought about his fathers words that it never cojld have been Richie as he was simply not able to do such heavy calibre crimes .

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      VenningB

      Yes, they all received money; Donna Myers, Jesse Perez, his daughter Pauline, Earl and Deleen Gregg, the Hubbard Street lot. I find it funny that Earl’s sister didn’t get her money because hers would only come with a Pan murder conviction and the trial didn’t happen. She was complaining!
      When we went to L.A., we found out that Armando evaded subpoena. I think I added that to an older post about the informants. I guess for some, the ‘reward’ was getting immunity from prosecution. I agree with you, they all turned on him because they probably thought he was a crazy liability.

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        Yeah, that was very interesting about Armando.

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        YesIAmEvil

        Oh, Earl’s sister did get money for the LA cases. She just wanted more. : LA Times 1989-10-25 : “Laurie Ochoa, an unemployed truck driver from Lompoc, will receive $2,500 for tipping off police to the possibility that Ramirez was the Night Stalker.”

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        VenningB

        She was a greedy old bitch.

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        YesIAmEvil

        I’d say they all realized pretty soon that $ 1.000, $ 2.500 or even $ 6.000 are not much money. It may give you some benefits for, let’s say, 3-6 months, but it won’t change your life for the better
        if you stick to the same life style, stay in the same environment, with the same people etc.

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      5. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        No amount of money would’ve ever been enough to satisfy those sell-outs. They were already living lives steeped in chaos, dysfunction, and self-destruction: drugs, crime, betrayal. I usually try to extend empathy to people caught in those cycles, because I know how hard life can be, and how the system often fails those already hanging on by a thread. But in this case? I can’t. I won’t. These people didn’t just stumble, they made a conscious choice to sell Richard out, knowing full well what it could mean for him. They handed him over to the wolves, not out of confusion or desperation, but out of greed, cowardice, and complete disregard for someone they once called a friend. That’s a betrayal so deep it borders on the unspeakable. And what makes it worse is that, if you pay close enough attention, there are moments—slips, hesitations, contradictions—where it almost sounds like they weren’t even sure he was the Night Stalker. But that didn’t stop them. The lure of reward money and media attention was too strong, and they cashed in while a man’s life was on the line. It’s heartbreaking to think about. Richard truly kept company that, in the end, saw him as expendable.

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        He said it himself. “We are all expendable for a cause”, and that’s why I chose that for the name of this blog. It seemed very apt.

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      7. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        What makes it worse is that they clearly liked him and yes, couldn’t imagine him doing the crimes. Like the Greggs calling him sweet and nice and Donna Myers wanting to comfort him after the arrest. They must have felt some guilt but the money overrode it.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Falzon had to beat his name out of Armando and not forgetting he gave Richard an alibi.

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      9. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I really feel for Armando. They must’ve roughed him up pretty badly to get information about Richard out of him. I can’t imagine the kind of guilt that would come from being forced to give up your childhood friend like that. Knowing you were made to play a part in their pain and suffering—it would eat me alive. That kind of thing stays with you forever.

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        VenningB

        At first, I was angry with him but then found out he originally gave Richard an alibi by saying he was in San Francisco during some of the Los Angeles murders.

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      11. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I completely agree. The fact that Armando even tried to give Richard an alibi says a lot—he was clearly conflicted, maybe even trying to do the right thing in an impossible situation. And then there’s Falzon, casually admitting he gave Armando a “half-assed punch” during interrogation, as if that somehow downplays what really happened. We both know it wasn’t just a punch. That kind of language is always used to sanitize the brutality, to cover up the coercion that likely took place behind closed doors.

        It honestly made me feel bad for Armando. He was stuck in an awful position—caught between loyalty to a lifelong friend and the full force of a system determined to extract a confession, no matter the cost.

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  47. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    there was a comment on YouTube on that channel Jay mentioned that share your blog and book info by someone claiming that there is this video of Richard with an interviewer saying his friend did the crimes

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      It’s not an interview with Richard, it’s a correctional officer who was in SQ and was on the same wing as Richard and Charlie Manson.

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        sarah1997

        Ahh ok gotcha must have read the comment wrong. But do you guys think it’s true his claim, I’ve always felt Richard was blackmailed by his criminal friends didn’t they reject him this one time but Richard didn’t show any signs of anger or anything towards them

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        If you watch the interview the guy isn’t saying Richard said his friend did the crimes. He’s saying Richard told a story about a friend breaking into a house where a party was happening, and had to hide until he could escape.
        The C.O then goes on to assume Richard was talking about himself (probably gleaned from Carrillo’s nonsense) and that the people in the house had a lucky escape.
        For all we know, Richard may have been sharing an amusing story about one of his SF friends (that’s where this house was) because they were all burglars.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ahhhh ok, where can I find this interview?

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        It’s on a YouTube channel called Soft White Underbelly.

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        sarah1997

        Thnx all Jay! You guys are life savers seriously way better than Google! Hehe

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  48. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Please , who is Robert Bryant ? He seemes to be a nice guy . And who is Katharine Baur ? I read about those two people , only little though …By the way I just found out that 1971 they made Dirty Harry movie in San Francisco Hall of Justice Police Dep.and S.F.County Jail ..There are some fotos of the making of that Film. In one you see Clint Eastwood running on the helicopter landing place on top of the building some floors in that building housed S.F.County Jail. ..Maybe its the same helicopter area from where Richard was flown to L.A. X… Wow ..Hope I m right and don t blame myself too much ..LOL.

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      Richard wasn’t flown anywhere from San Francisco.
      Robert Bryan was a post-conviction lawyer who spoke out for Richard and gave a declaration for his appeals.
      Katherine Baur was a social worker who interviewed his family.

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  49. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    But , when Richard did this Interview with Mike Watkiss , was it in the San Francisco Jail which is partly housed at that Hall of Justice building at 850 Bryant Street ??

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      I don’t know for certain. This one has a high security floor, which makes it quite likely, although I don’t know for sure.

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        Isabella 99

        Sometimes I get the blues about Richard , like today ..And then I wished there was more Information available about him ..his case , his family. But ..wait and see…I ve seen this guy Tom Zenner with Gil Carillo in a video ..and that was so revolting , Carillo explained very drastic what Richard did to Mrs Zazzara . This Zenner guy .pathetic shouter .. Wretched edits , they are so disgusting. Poor World. I hope lots of people still buy your book . And hope Satay and/Mash go on having good ideas LOL Never forget humour , I sware .

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        ~ Jay ~

        We’ve seen the latest. Never fear, Isabella, we’re gearing up to write about it. There’s so much wrong with that video, it’s unbelievable.
        We’re putting together a couple of new posts and some ideas about how you (and everyone else) can help to combat the disinformation.
        Bear with us, we’re quite busy with life, but we’re on it.

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      3. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        LOL yes, I am watching it right now and writing a post! It’s so stupid, it’s really annoyed me!

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    I don’t know if she ever got closure, his death was a shock to them, I think, and led to a battle over his remains. One side wanting a burial and the other, Doreen, following his wishes and getting him cremated.
    Rosa will always remain dignified, and has no wish for the limelight. I can’t imagine anything would bring her to speak publicly now. Her and daughter Jennifer have not jumped on the grifting bandwagon.

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      The media lied. He was very much wanted.

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        We had that on good authority from someone close to him, who has nothing to gain from lying. They don’t seek the spotlight.

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