Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

The book is out! You can buy the ebook in the following links:

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It should be on all of Amazon worldwide.

And the paperback is here (although they might still be unavailable in some countries – check back in a few days. They can take a while to show up!)

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We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

VenningB

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I need to tell you guys (Jay, Kaycee, venning) that reading this book made me way more knowledgeable about this case than I have ever been! Each page I’m learning something new but at the same time I’m tearing up. I don’t know how to thank you guys enough for all the hard work, dedication, time, investigation etc… you 3 have done for Richard! This is was we need. You have inspired me very much! I will always forever be greatful for what you all have done! Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Bless you 3! I will forever cherish this book or thought me so much!

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    sarah1997

    Is it ok if I finish the book 1st then continue our discussions? This a such a good book I really want to read it over again as Jay said haha!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Of course.

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        sarah1997

        Awesome!!! I will be back for sure once I’m done this book! I just love our discussions everyone is so sweet and nice hehe it’s just too good I can’t put it down I’m lossing sleep cuz I can’t stop reading it haha!

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    2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      I want to finish it too, before I start to discuss anything from the book here. I’m at 70% now. And right as …hmm, who was it ..Vivi? .. I can’t wait to finish it and I’m sad that I will finish it soon.

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        sarah1997

        It truly is such a great book and sad I’ll Finish it too! I’m part 15 section 4! ( dw interesting-case I am not gonna spoil it for you hehe) but a so said once I’m done the entire book I’ll come back for more discussion and questions! It’s so much fun discussing here and with all of you guys hehe!

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      2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Ah, yes, it was you, not Vivi… sorry! 🙂 I really can’t wait to discuss the book with you all.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha me and yay! Also while I was reading the book we got a call from my younger brother saying he neighbours called him say there was a sketchy women with a bag following her him and broke into my backyard 😱 ok now I’m gonna go read and come back for discussions once I’m entire done this book!

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  3. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Based only on the evidence, which crime or crimes do you guys think Richard most likely committed?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Ughhh if you had to push me… Pan. I’m not directly saying I think he did it, but if you held a gun to my head I’d choose it. Just because of circumstantial evidence. And his lack of alibi that night. Then again, it only feels mysterious because it was untried. It might have ended up as easily explainable as the others. And we only have Falzon’s word that any evidence tied Ramirez there. My partner (the editor) said he wouldn’t have chosen to convict him of that though, had he been a juror. Because for him the evidence is not strong enough.

      What about you?

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I thought maybe Mei Leung because of the DNA hit. But with all the unanswered questions surrounding the case, the second hit, the shady actions of SFPD such as hiding the second hit, and lack of other evidence such as witness testimony. I find it to be highly unlikely, but if I had a gun to my head I’d say that it could be a possibility.

        I apologize for the question. I’ve been reading through all the crimes in the book and on the blog trying to find a shred of actual logic as to why Richard was pinned for them. But to be frank I really couldn’t find any.

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        It’s fine, I like speculating on it all.
        The whole case is mental isn’t it. It’s difficult to imagine that the whole thing went this far if he wasn’t guilty or at least somehow involved in at least some cases. Sometimes even I find it hard to believe because there’s so much – too much.

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      3. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        And ..what about this second , juvenile suspect in S. F. ? But just the thought about him having possibly done that makes me feel really bad ! And I could never ever imagine beeing a hybristophiliac fan….Then I remember that after watching the Israelien Interview we thought ” no way .. he didn t do that..” ! And ..in case He did that he could hsve easily be suspect in other cases ..as it was at the beginning of this murder spree.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Once, like everyone else, I would never have questioned the Mei Leung case, until we dug and found out it wasn’t as clear-cut as we have been led to believe. On the face of it, it is damning, but once again, leaves a lot of questions.

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I feel the same as you do about this one, also having the indictment via Grand Jury doesn’t help; too much secrecy. Not even Richard or his lawyers were told what they had on him at that time.

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      6. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Yeah it’s one of several things that makes me question it. The others are: why did they need L.A. evidence to assist them? Why was Armando not charged with anything when jewellery was supposedly found in his house? Was it really from the Pans like Falzon says? If so why the secrecy of the trial?

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      7. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Armando got immunity from everything he was involved with. As with so much of this case, there’s too much secrecy!

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    2. interesting-case Avatar
      interesting-case

      I have leaned towards the Barbara Pan case too because wasn’t that one of the very few instances where there was an actual pentagram written on the wall of the crime scene? I don’t recall the first murders to have had that. IF he was involved with one or any of these murders I wonder if he decided to take the opportunity seen as the earlier perpetrators got away with their crimes. Pure speculation from my point of view though. I am still at the beginning of the book covering Hernandez.

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        There was one at Bell and Lang.
        I think it’s because there was “Jack the Knife” on the wall from. Judas Priest song and people have said he liked the band…then again, so did many others.

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  4. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    WeI ve been thinking about Doreen many times and I can fully understand that she is not interested in communication with Journalists or with anyone , no matter who ! I hope she has a good life with nice memories on hers and Richards life together in this hard times at St.Quentin. The problems , the difficulties of all sorts she had to deal with were enormous , I think theres no doubt about that. We only have to think about Richards state of mind , the hopes , the fears , his anger , his depressions , his living conditions at the different prisons….St.Quentin…and and and. As we know he could be very irrational and tiring..Doreen must have had nerves like steel. She also assumingly had to deal with profane things like promoting Carlos book etc. She had to get on with Carlo and a variety of other people .She had to Set hersef thruogh with the Groupies ..and finally she had to endure Cindy Haden s mean doings….lerning that Richie was in a relationship with a Juror…who did everything to be in a room with him alone…and who would sentence him to death at a time in the near future. Many other unpleasent things crossed her way later .. all those psychic examinations of Richard…etc. I cannot imagine that all those happenings were very funny. Than his appeals .Especially the one from 2008 …then the ” New evidence ” in the San Fransico case …Above all there was the need for getting hold of money .., as money hay great importance in prisons…you need a lot of it .! Not only for Food or stationary…Thats why Doreen was his sales Assistent when she Sold his drawings to people interested in such prison Art. .She Sold even a nice curl of Richards hair….I think Richard gave it to her …or she maybe cut it herself….?? LOL…When about 50 Richards health grew worse and worse and he still had ghis compulsary masturbation problem .The visits werd reduced..I heard that in the last 3 years he didnt get visits snymore or just ocasionally. So..After he had died Doreen came and got his Box with his ashes etc. ..Its likely that Richard and she talked about this Szenario.. and , as they were short of money , maybe Richard even asked her to sell the Box and the toe Tag..? For me that would be plausible and also it would be acceptsble ..at least for me..! And of course she would scatter his ashes where he wanted ! I myself ..I feel sympathy and even admiration for Doreen. And I refuse to think or speak negatively about her and its no ones Business wheather she Sold that Box or not .I could imagine that she needed money ..and even if not …she had her reasons to do so. Actually know one of us or those awful fangirls with their poisonlike jeleousy have the right to critisise her .

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I feel the same. It takes a strong person do deal with his irrationality and illnesses and him asking loads of women to be his girlfriend. She must have been very understanding that he wasn’t doing it because he was nasty, but that he was irrational. I like that he had someone to care for him. Would others do the same? I doubt it. They weren’t helping him much anyway…

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  5. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Most of the critics of Doreen havent ever seen a big prison from the inside , nor do they know how quick a prisoner develops a misstrustful feeling towards all kind of people…The Aggression levil is often very high and money is an endless theme of Diskussion and in most cases money is always short ! The fangirls and fanwomen with their inapropriate and extremely inmature behaviour and simple mindedness are really get on my mind , really Hardcore..

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  6. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Honestly, the more I read and learn about Richard’s case it just sounds like a extreme example of someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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  7. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I wonder if the incident with the car didn’t even occur, if Richard would’ve even been pursued as a suspect for the NS.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      That’s an interesting comment and I think, without that incident and the discovery of “Richard Mena” and his dental problems, there would be no snowball effect. Only Somkid Khovananth mentioned bad teeth, no one else.

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    2. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I don’t think it would either. It wouldn’t have been noticed at all but Carrillo was reading all the teletypes of all different crimes as they rolled in and this one triggered something in him.

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  8. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    One of you , maybe it was you , Venning said you thought , that he might have committed the Kovananth crime . Do you still think so ? I think , yes he could have done that ! Oh its so frustrating ..I find myself in a state of thinking and spectulating but I seem to get nowhere.I want him to have done none of the crimes…but then I can absolutely not believe that he hasn t done nothing and that they put him into St.Quentin for nothing ( apart from being a burgla) Maybe one of you could tell me what you think he has NOT done..! Allthough I think they are the ones with lack of serology proof… Maybe he was just a runner …One You Tube crime fan thinks that he was a copy Killer towards the end of the .murders …that this was more of a coincidence while he actually was trying himself out in committing capital crime instead of beeing only a burglar. Plus I dont exactely understand what you mean in the Mei Leung case.What is your opinion wether he did this . I know that this is a question which is actually impossible to answer. And if he was it ..that would mean that he was very brutal and sadistic…

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I’m not sure about any of them. Certainly with that one, there’s the circumstantial evidence. I’m not sure if I’d have voted ‘guilty’ if I was a juror though. There was no semen evidence, and the stolen items aspect hinges upon the words of Solano, who was a liar. The appearance of that killer also isn’t enough for me. Somkid Khovananth originally described someone with much darker skin and the sketch is quite tanned. But the police put out a bulletin saying the killer was light skinned. Did the police influence her? We know that with the Abowath case, she changed how he looked over time… and we don’t have Somkid K’s original statements. They would be interesting to read.

      The copycat thing is an interesting theory and made me question the Pan case. But then again, a late case was Abowath: blonde man, negative semen. And the boots Sakina A described the killer wearing matched what Inez Erickson told a neighbour. So I think the blonde guy did Carns. So that likely wasn’t Richard… but it must have been someone he knew if the items truly did end up with Solano.

      With Mei Leung, they were deliberately looking to pin cases on him. It seemed to be the focus of Inspector Holly Pera in the cold case unit. Again, if I was a juror, I’d vote not guilty, because the mixed DNA sample isn’t clear enough for me.

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  9. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    You guys ever think that Richard wasn’t really a Satanist. I know there are different sects and denominations of Satanism and some don’t even believe that Satan is an actual entity. But it seems more to me that he wanted to rebel against his parents strict Christian beliefs and have someone or something that protects “bad people who do bad things”. IDK if that makes sense. I’m not well-versed in Satanism so…

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      I have never thought he was a “true” Satanist, to be honest.
      He always reminds me of these people who are into metal, and go around doing “Devil horns” because they think they should.
      I think he dabbled without understanding, his friends talk of him drawing pentagram on the floor and freaking out over losing a black stone because “it contains my soul, dude”. It was probably obsidian..

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        He was like a kid really. A kid in a man’s body with a mental illness.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Lol he sounds more like a edgy teenager to me.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I think he studied and read more books once incarcerated, but as a young man? More Edgelord than Satanic Lord. Lol

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      4. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        I think that he truely believed in God when he was a child. Maybe more than anyone around him. Plus of course the influences of Mexican Culture with Brujeria and spirits and Dia de los Muertos etc. Then, growing up, this belief broke or was broken, probably bc too many bad things happened around him and too many people were hypocrites regarding their belief, faking to be good Christians, but at a closer look, it was clear that they were the biggest sinners. He said that then for a few years he became an atheist and didn’t believe in anything. But then, I think, he started missing something, a “Supreme Beeing”, a “reason to be”, He even envied Islamic terrorists, who believed so wholeheartedly in their “mission” that they were even ready to kill and to die for it. Not because of the killing, but because he wanted something that he could value so high that he would kill and die for it. I think at this point he would have needed a really good psychotherapist. To help him to understand that and to canalize this desire and this energy in a way that doesn’t harm anyone. He didn’t have someone like that, so Satan somehow was “the best he could get”. In his interview in Philip Carlo’s book he said: “What Satan means to me … Satan is a stabilizing force in my life. It gives me a reason to be; it gives me … an excuse to rationalize. ” That’s what is quoted all the time, but then he goes on: “There is a part of me that believes he really does exist. I have my doubts, but we all do, about many things.” So, I just believe him this.

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        There is so much sense in what you’ve just articulated, and I actually feel the same, in as much that it gave him something to cling to.

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  10. csmutny06cae8b36d Avatar
    csmutny06cae8b36d

    I honestly don’t think Richard committed any murders. I do recall is sister Rosa having said he wasn’t the Night Stalker, and he said it more than once. I also feel that he said this while crying, which speaks volumes to me, because Rosa told him not to cry, don’t show any weakness. Those are raw emotions, people are usually sincere at that point. Now, I am not trying to sound naive, because he did commit crimes (thieft) and abuse drugs, but that doesn’t mean he was a killer. I have truly felt this way since I discovered the blog, the evidence can be explained away, at least by reasonable doubt.

    If I really, really had to pick one, I would pick Somekid K. due to the bad teeth, tall and curly hair. I am sure I’m full of shit because this case has me baffled 😂

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yeah, I can understand if people choose that one. You have the teeth, the Solano stuff.
      My partner was trying to work out what ones he could have done by looking at the table in the Steve Strong document. And he just couldn’t understand how they were linked. Like, you’d think ‘oh, he might have done Khovananth. And because the MO was the same at Abowath and Carns, it’s easy to assume it’s the same man, but then you have negative serology at one/blonde guy and then no identification at the other and it leaves you with questions again.

      Such as was he going around with friends as a team and he did some and his friend did some… you just never know. And yes, it drives us all mad.

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      1. csmutny06cae8b36d Avatar
        csmutny06cae8b36d

        All good points here by everyone, but, at the end of the day, can anyone be sure? Sometimes, it would be easier to have a different hobby, maybe watching butterflies zip by 😆

        A Steve Strong doc? Please, do tell.

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Steve Strong’s stuff is in Document 7.21!
        Yeah, but it’s sooo addictive! It’s nearly 2 years since I began writing about it! And I only began writing because I needed to make notes on all the stuff Jay was telling me, just to help myself understand!

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Document 7.21 is so interesting.
        Sometimes I feel guilty for dragging you into this.. lol

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Lol I feel guilty for making it my whole life and now there’s a book. Ooops, no flying under the radar now… it was an accident.

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        We can’t be sure at all. All we can do is lay out all the stuff that never made it into the court room. What we can be sure of is this whole case was a shocking mess, so badly handled as to almost be a tragic farce.

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      6. csmutny06cae8b36d Avatar
        csmutny06cae8b36d

        Thank you.

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        I agree, it is mind numbing. Even the Carol Kyle incident, the man with “nice teeth”, because the chain of custody of the jewellery found with Rosario was never investigated properly, it leaves questions. The police blew that one by telling Kyle that she was a Night Stalker victim and that Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, was going to be at the line-up… Leading a witness is not a good look, which is what they did.

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    2. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      I admire your courage in speaking up about something I’ve struggled to voice for a long time. For a long time, I’ve carried the weight of feeling that Richard might not be guilty of the crimes he was convicted for in Los Angeles, as well as the Mei Leung case (I know he wasn’t tried for this crime, but everyone just assume that he did it). While I can’t speak with certainty about the San Francisco cases since they never went to trial and we know so little about them, my belief stems from the lack of solid evidence tying him to these crimes. There’s simply too much reasonable doubt in my mind.

      I know that sometimes my comments may come across as if I’m defending Richard, but that’s not the case. I don’t think he was a saint, nor do I believe he was a morally well-rounded person. But when it comes to the crimes he was accused of—rape and murder—something in me just doesn’t believe he was capable of them. That’s my intuition speaking, and I’ve wrestled with it for a long time.

      I hesitated to voice these thoughts because I don’t want to diminish the experiences of the victims or disrespect their pain. I acknowledge the horrendous suffering they endured. Yet, I also can’t shake the feeling that something is off about the whole case. I’ve mentioned before that he could be guilty of Mei Leung’s murder because of the DNA evidence, but honestly, I’m only about 5% sure of that, if even. It almost feels like I said he was guilty of that crime just to avoid sounding delusional or like I’m in denial. Now, I worry I might sound like I’m completely out of touch with reality.

      This case is so heartbreaking, so frustrating, and so tangled with unanswered questions that it’s exhausting to engage with. Sometimes it drains me emotionally just to think about it. I know I’m young and lack a lot of life experience, so maybe my views are naïve or overly idealistic. But my conscience keeps telling me that Richard wasn’t the monster he was portrayed to be.

      I’m not trying to impose my opinion on anyone, and I recognize that it’s a massive stretch to believe that someone could be framed and manipulated into becoming one of America’s most notorious serial killers. But the more I dive into this case and others like it, the more my faith in the American legal system—and human nature—has been shaken. I used to see the world through a lens of optimism, always trying to give people the benefit of the doubt. But this case opened my eyes to a darker reality: people will go to extreme lengths for fame, money, career advancement, or public approval. That realization has made me question everything, especially the credibility of the law enforcement team that worked on the Night Stalker task force.

      There’s so much about this case that’s been suppressed or deliberately kept from public discussion for decades. Alternative perspectives and dissenting voices have been silenced. My hope is that one day, the truth about this case will come to light and those who continue to profit from it will be held accountable. I know Richard is gone, and nothing can be done to ease the suffering he may have endured, or the pain of the surviving victims. But the people behind the injustice—if it exists—need to be exposed.

      Maybe I’ve become too emotionally invested in this case, but it’s hard not to. It’s a case that pulls you in, makes you question everything, and stirs something deep inside.

      On a personal note, I want to sincerely thank Kaycee, Venning, and Jay for your resilience, bravery, and hard work in helping people see things from another perspective. You’ve given a voice to so many of us who were afraid to speak up, and I am truly grateful for that. I also want to thank everyone in this community for being so welcoming, kind, and open-minded. Even though we may not always agree, there is a mutual respect for freedom of thought and discussion, and that is rare and invaluable

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I agree with all your feelings. We feel the same. Even down to that “Am I a delulu apologist?” feeling. So much went wrong with the case from the first police investigation onwards that I struggle to believe the cases that do look kind of bad for him. Because the level of weirdness is overwhelming. It leads me to think every case was a framing. There really is huge reasonable doubt on EVERY case. If it was some of them, it would feel less crazy. Because of all of them it seems like just a massive hoax. I expect people will see this comment and think I’m delusional, but the above is how I felt all through the writing process.

        On top of everything else, he doesn’t SEEM like a murderer. People will say that’s naive and people are multifaceted and will perceive him differently. But a lot of how they psychoanalyse him is merely wilfully misinterpreting his words or mannerisms based on what they think they know. People see his eyes as evil. But now I know what I know, I don’t see that in his face.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I never thought his eyes were “evil”, and to me, they’re just dark. The “evil eyes” is people basing what they know, or think they know about him and the crimes. Take all that away and they’re just eyes.

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        interesting-case

        I find it curious that I found this blog just a week after I got interested in Richard’s case, hence my username. This blog literally became available at a time when I was most susceptible to learn about this case. Had I discovered Richard’s case a year prior, or even months earlier, maybe I would of never found my way here and I would have been inundated with the mainstream narrative and had a very different opinion. For that Im thankful. Maybe it’s coincidence maybe it’s not. But the timing was divine because my impression had not been tainted and I came here with an open mind after watching his “documentary” and feeling like there is more that has not been presented. To hold your book in my hands just weeks after discovering this case is really awesome. You could say Im personally invested too. Or else I wouldn’t be here. It’s one of those cases that haven’t been put to rest, at least not in my mind. Am I also delulu? I don’t know. At least I try to have an open mind without the hysteria that some display. I came here looking for information about his background and trial and maybe even have an intellectual coversation or two and received just that. In the end our conclusions are our own. Regardless what anyone else thinks.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        That’s quite mad, isn’t it? And we should all have an open mind, after this I stopped trusting.

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I understand exactly where you’re coming from, it’s something we’ve discussed over and over, as you can imagine. The Netflix docco and Carlo’s book, plus the weight of public opinion, have made it very hard to openly talk about anything to do with this case; unless, that is, you’re agreeing with everything the given narrative says. That’s fine, but when you begin to dig, it is not as clear cut.
        I had no intention (to begin with) of doubting anything, until the information began to stack up in such a way that I had to question. That news article from March 85 started it all off, the one where the police are saying all the child abductees (independantly) saw a short, blonde guy.. and then suddenly he’s dark and tall. Down the rabbit hole…
        If it was just one thing, one eyewitness describing someone other than Ramirez, I wouldn’t have given it much thought; but it was all of them (Somkid gave the nearest, but she said dark skinned – perhaps to her he DID seem to be dark skinned, if we factor in cross-racial identification) but then when eyewitnesses change stories, when line-ups are tainted, when firearms officers can’t agree on weapons, when finger prints aren’t verified and shoeprints turn out to be not so rare, then, then, you do begin to doubt. When there’s no physical evidence (and I am talking about LA, not SF), when serology points away from the accused, the doubt is overwhelming.

        In the case of Mei Leung, yeah, DNA is damning, and looking into that mirror was hard and disgusting, only to find that even THAT wasn’t clear either. It’s head-swimmingly consuming, but when a famous DNA expert openly questioned it, then it’s not as simple as it may look at first glance. When they covered up a second suspect for 4 years, it looks worse.

        In the Yu case, they used a theory of a “lover’s quarrel” without demonstrating that Tsai-Lian and Ramirez even knew each other, let alone had a lover’s quarrel that resulted in a killing. All the inconsistencies DO add up, and it doesn’t even seem logical. But then again, the Night Stalker case is one where logic goes out of the window, he has no MO, he can do anything, be anything, and nothing is off limits. IF we take it that Mei Leung was the first victim, the Night Stalker starts with the worst and most heinous crime one can imagine, then it de escalates for a while, only to ramp up again with the mutilation of Maxine Zazzara. On May 9th, in the “uncharged incident” of Clara Hadsall, he does nothing apart from steal. She’s not physically hurt or touched. The MO changes and changes, and the links are tenuous, because the shoeprint, ballistics, fingerprints, identifications were faulty/unreliable/misleading.

        I think because so much has been hidden, pushed away and not talked about, it comes as a shock to learn that what was presented at trial wasn’t quite so cut and dried after all. A decent defence team could (and should) have fought the case with far more diligence.
        Even then, even if he’d had OJ’s defence team, a guilty verdict would still have been the outcome; public opinion would expect (and accept) nothing else.

        And today, what we have is a continual flow from one main outlet, with a script that is read out over and over, ALL the witnesses said he wore black. No, they did not. They all said he had bad teeth, no they did not. They all said tall, dark and curly haired.. again, that is not true. We know that, we’ve seen the police reports.
        So of course, if people have read and dug deep, questions will be asked. Whether that is right or wrong, it’s human nature. And humans are interesting; we can feel deep revulsion and sorrow for all the suffering, and STILL ask questions. The two are not mutually exclusive.

        As for innocence, we never have and never will say Richard was innocent (whatever people might think). All we can do is lay out the information and let people read what has not been pushed into the light. Although it was always there, and has been in the public domain for years.

        Thank you, Vivi, for your thoughtful. mature input. I am glad you are here. I certainly don’t consider you to be naive at all, you are as we are; confused by the whole damn thing, and pretty disillusioned by the legal system and the unprofessional behaviour of those who make these events their source of income and fame.

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    interesting-case

    I definitely think Richard was guilty of something. I think the copycat analogy may be accurate at least at the late stage of those crimes.

    Regarding the satanism. No I don’t believe he was a satanist. Is anyone though? One can read on and engage in satanistic practices, can anyone really be one? I think he was interested in it. It was a hobby of his. An identity he wanted to be associated with. I don’t think anyone can be it.

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    Isabella 99

    .it was a sort of fashion or so ..and he was so naiv and childlike …I can not take it very serious ..No ..He was Not a Satanist.It was the time of Satanic Panic and he jumped on this train…But he sure did some bad things while hanging about with all those Solano Criminals …He was a follower Not a leader say people from El Paso who knew him . His father said something like that too .

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    interesting-case

    I found another podcaster who makes videos on different famous crimes. He recently published a video about “The Railroading of Kalief Browder”. Would he be someone you could be guest on? I don’t know enough about his work but it would be good if he was openminded to RR’s own “railroading”.

    https://youtu.be/Ov4js2mu1_4

    https://youtu.be/Ov4js2mu1_4

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      The only podcaster I know with an open mind about this case is Patrick from Programmed to Kill, I will drop him an email tomorrow to see how he’s doing, I still think we will set something up with him.

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    interesting-case

    Random question… This mugshot from his first arrest.. Where he smiles.. is this photo legit? Because his teeth look in good shape compared to how they looked a year after during his final arrest. Did his teeth decline so fast?

    https://i.ibb.co/Y22HyqP/images.jpg

    https://i.ibb.co/N9J7hLY/images-1.jpg

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      It’s definitely fake!

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      Nope. Those have been “fiddled” with by some adoring fangirl who can’t cope with his dodgy teeth, LOL

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      1. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        But was the smile real (and not the teeth)? Because his eyes look more squinted than in the one he’s not smiling.

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        I imagine he’s been “Face Tuned”. They do it all the time, because they can’t cope with his flaws. You will find hundreds of weird edits of him out there, it’s so weird.

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        interesting-case

        I took the liberty to actually compare the smiling mugshot with the non-smiling mugshot and they do appear to be different. The angle of his nose appears different in each photo and his eyes squint more in the smiling one. Im inclined to believe the smiling mugshot is real, but maybe not the teeth.

        https://i.ibb.co/8jS7ws2/imagesrr.jpg

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        They definitely put him through a face app!

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      5. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        It’s all fake. These apps can change other parts of the face these days. Mental isn’t it? I’ve seen other photos of him that really aren’t real, but they look very realistic.

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        They often use Face Tune.

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        They smiling one has been cleaned quite a lot. His eyes are clear and the whites of his eyes have lost the blood-shot look, but you’re right, those teeth have definitely been “Hollywooded”. The photos of him out there have had so many photoshop jobs done to them, it is getting harder and harder to find originals that have not been fangirled. There’s even one of that mugshot where they have his eyes looking to the side, it could be real, but I am not sure.

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        interesting-case

        If the smiling mugshot is not real in the slightest then it’s outrageous because it is published on the stock photo site Alamy.

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        Yeah.. there’s quite a few on there that are NOT original, and some scammers are trying to profit off them. We went through that site looking for pics for the book.

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        interesting-case

        I saw the credits you made and it’s good you chose the images from a longstanding news outlet. I was hesitant to say “mainstream media” because they were also complicit in the narrative but the photos you picked were at least originally published back in the 80’s when this AI crap wasn’t invented yet.

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        Yes, we went to the original sources for the photos.

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        mysticpolicef616ca1b1a

        il y a d’autres photos sur you tube sur lesquelles il a grain de peau de jeune fille et ses lèvres ont l’air glossees. Il est difficile de trouver des photos originales…

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        Oui, c’est très difficile. Je recommande le site web Calisphere pour des photos d’essai originales et non retouchées. Il n’y en a pas beaucoup, mais ça vaut le coup d’œil. Personnellement, je n’aime pas ses photos retouchées.

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    sarah1997

    omg you guys 1033 comments 🤩 keep this up that’s amazingly amazing!!

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    Isabella 99

    AndReturning to the Copycat . The You Tube user s comment said that Richard did copy Cousin Mike s crimes in Vietnam , the old Story blabla. But I thought then that Richard might have copied someone BUT NOT MIKE ..! Because I remembered that Richie had told Eddy Milam that he was afraid of Mike and that he really said to Milam that :” Mike is crazy”. So Mike wasnt that super role Model for Richard at the time , even when he had those Polaroid Fotos in his head now. I often tried to analyse Richards personality …and I wanted to come away from this Mike Story…and I also wanted to ignore Carlo s ” approach ” wich put Richard also in the sadistic corner…So as he was always described as s follower and Not a leader , and as someone who gets easily manipulated I thought that a) some really cunning criminal might talked him into some very bad thing to do or b) there was a situation or even situations which at first were sort of coincidental and than chanced into really serious and brutal happenings .And maybe first he was just a runner but then changed into someone freak and dangerous in the same context…There must have been 2 or 3 people at some scenes ….and sorry but I think that he was invoved heavily in maybe 2 or 3 crimes towards middle or end of the Spree. And before all that he maybe had ” witnessed ” some crime allthough he was only a runner . Some of the crimes seem to be planned and the guy eho did this seemed to be very dominant …and strict…Then the guy at Carol Kyle was Pervers and friendly at the same time …He gave her her nightgown or so .they even talked a little …but the description of Kyle was doubtful …WOW ..

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      You never need to apologise for your opinions, they’re as valid as anyone’s.
      Considering how often Miguel was hospitalised, it would be impossible for him to be as constantly in Richard’s company as most think.
      Which crimes do you think he was heavily involved in, and why?

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    Isabella 99

    Hahaha ..Don t get me wrong..I really dont want him to have done any crime and if he had had some Alibi s it would never has gone so far , so downhill ..! ? And I really always found Richard symphathetic and sweet ..as in the Watkiss Interview..I found him so charismatic as well…and he really was good looking . Thats a fact . But ..He was in a bad Company in L.A. Greyhound Depot and Solano s criminals and all that dope …it hardly could have been worse..!

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    Isabella 99

    Well , in Somkid Kovananth . And I think he was involved in beeing a runner most of the times but he must have known a lot as he was at the crime scenes ..but it was someone else who did the murders .

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      When you say “runner” do you mean running stolen goods? According to Carlo he was running good to Tijuana for Solano, which wouldn’t surprise me.

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    No , I Don t have any idea ..And ..I honestly cannot imagine that he could have done the Bell and Lang crime. No , thats not possible ! Sometimes I think I should stop trying to find out what happened as it seems to be not possible to find it out at all !

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      I tend to view it as that I’ll never know for sure, so I focus on what I do know or rather, what makes sense; that the trial was badly done and because his defence fucked up so badly, there will always be question marks. I know the ballistics reports were faulty and needed retesting. I know the shoeprint evidence put to the jury was false and misleading, I also know they taped an overlay of an Avia print on to a photo of a piece of carpet and I realise that witnesses were ‘encouraged’ to pick him out and their descriptions changed.

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    Yes , and a driver .

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      That’s what I mean, he drove to Tijuana, running goods, according to Carlo.

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    I mean a driver ‘ at the crime scence ‘ but that he at first didnt know what was really Happening…He thought it was just burglary but then turned into murder …but he was a complice only. And later the Real murderers hang it on him . Framed..

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      It’s certainly a possibility.
      When he was arrested the cops were asking him what he knew and to tell them which crimes he was involved in, otherwise they’d pin them all on him. That’s what his lawyers told reporters.

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    Vivi

    Honestly, sometimes I wonder if Richard’s parents were ever truly present. All of their children, at least for a time, seemed to lose their way and faced immense struggles throughout their childhood and adolescence. I’m not a parent, and I understand there’s only so much a parent can do, but I still find it hard to grasp how they lost “control” over every one of their kids. While Rosa and Ignacio seemed to eventually get their lives back on track, none of the children appeared to have received the proper support or care.

    For instance, they knew that Miguel had significant issues, yet they allowed a young and impressionable Richard to spend time with him on multiple occasions. The excuse was that they couldn’t control Richard and that it didn’t seem like a big deal because Miguel had returned from war as a decorated hero. To me, this sounds like an example of neglectful parenting.

    In my view, Richard, along with his older brothers Robert and Julian Jr., probably felt smothered and oppressed by their father. Julian Sr.’s expectations for his children were too high, and while their parents were working, they failed to notice what was really going on in their children’s lives. Feeling trapped and unsupported, the brothers likely turned to crime as a way to escape their home environment and carve out a life for themselves. The authoritarian parenting style they grew up under left no room for negotiation or freedom, and when children are overly restricted, they will do whatever it takes to break free from that situation.

    I’m sure that Mercedes and Julian Sr. loved their children and wanted what was best for them. I also believe that everyone has a intrinsic responsibility for their own life and actions. But I wish the parents had paid more attention and been more proactive in addressing the problems their children were facing, rather than resorting to corporal punishment as a solution.

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    Isabella 99

    Sorry my English sometimes is not sufficient for complicated explanations. I thought runner is similiar or the same as driver ! And I think he did NOT commit the crime in San F. ..They manipulated the crime scene and everything else there. I can not imagine him having done that .

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      Sorry, it’s probably my fault for confusing you. Here, a runner is a slang term for someone who passes on stolen goods, often on behalf of someone else.

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    Isabella 99

    I ll try again in shortform : I find it quite important to really be in distance to the common thinking that Miguel s Vietnam ” Story ” was the base and the Motive of what Richard was supposed to have done. Those rumours and Mechanism seem to work til today . When people are free of those ideas and assumptions and prejudice they can think different. I do believe that Richard thought that Mike was crazy and that he did not take him as a role Model.

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    sarah1997

    I’ll join you all in more discussions once I’m done the whole entire book but just wanted to say that wow this book is packed with so much information my head is going crazy haha but wow I just can’t stop saying how amazing this book truly is very beautiful amazing TRUTHFUL information! Very well investigated! My Brain is still trying to process all this information after learning so much in more details!

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    sarah1997

    was watching a lot of other criminal cases, every single one that I’ve seen since the videos haven’t at all been edited like Richard’s! You get the full picture! And they all confessed to the crime and on video even after denying them several times! While Richard’s videos you get bits and pieces of him talking and the way he talks and those bites and pieces don’t seem to match up at all to the question or his answers or facial expressions. While I’m reading the book I’m trying to watch his interviews as well studying them trying to get a better understanding it’s so annoying and tough when you don’t have all the full videos. Ps I’m on part 17 almost done!

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      I doubt we will ever have those full, unedited videos.

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        That’s the sad part and how can people just ask questions or understand there are so many lies about him makes nothing makes sense about anything the cops say they just keep making up the links like a story a made up story

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        We’re not meant to ask questions, not ones that stray from the script.

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        That’s so sad no one allowed to ask cuz then u get harassed wow thank god you have this blog where we all can

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      YesIAmEvil

      I’m at “Conclusions ” now. But I didn’t imagine that I would have to interrupt my reading to watch an episode of “Scorned”. (OMG, it’s so bad ) I mean I knew about that case, but not all the circumstances. 😮

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        It’s so hilariously bad!

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        sarah1997

        What’s that about?

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        About the murder of George Arthur. Scorned, season 5, episode 9 ..I’m sure you will find it. I had seen another documentary about that case, but it had less dirty details.

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        Ha ha! The LASD sex van! In the middle of the Night Stalker case, it is beyond mad.

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        sarah1997

        Thank you so much once I’m done watching the other case I’m watching I’ll for sure give this a watch!

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        Ha ha!! It was so bad, wasn’t it?

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    I hope you ve all finished the book soon so that we can continue trying to find out the truth ..I ve been thinking a lot about his childhood and youth again.He must have felt so confused and insecure ..and desperate then. ..Plus the clash of cultures ..in the America of the Reagan aera…The American dream and the hopes of young Richard ..and his siblings in contrast of the Mexican culture..and his oldfashioned and conservative father..I think that the kids had problems to respect their father .. maybe they could not even take him serious in a way…They wanted a modern Lifestyle I guess . I ve read that when Richard was 15 he went to see the Doobie Brothers when they played in El Paso and he liked it.

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    I mean , on the one side their parents worked like crazy in order to earn money , their mother spoke only Spanish and their father did beat the Kids..The parents seemed quiet helpless educating 5 children …Also because the oldfashioned way of thinking ! That must have been really difficult for all of them ..an Atmosphere which was toxic , as we know.

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    also interesting- case was part and section are you in? Since you got the book late once I’m done and start back on discussions I wanna make sure I don’t talk about the section and part you’re on so I don’t spoil it for you? Hehe

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      Oh Sarah please don’t hold up and wait for me. Discuss however much you like. I started reading last week and only got to the Hernandez case before life got in the way and I haven’t been able to pick up the pace yet. I was just about to start the chapter on the Macabre cinderella story about the Avia’s but I haven’t been home for the weekend to start. Im very far behind. But please do continue the discussion. I will catch up eventually.

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        You’re very sweet! But I feel bad if I spoil a lot for you I’ll discuss but I’ll try not to spoil everything or at least a whole lot hehe! Thank you 😊

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    Vivi

    I understand why some people may feel triggered by new content about this case, such as documentaries and books, as it can retraumatize surviving victims and the families of those who were lost. There are many individuals who put on a facade of sympathy or empathy for the victims of the Night Stalker crimes, yet profit from the attention surrounding it. However, I believe this blog and book take a different approach. You rely on actual legal and verified documents to present the case from a fresh perspective. You don’t glorify the crimes, dehumanize the victims, or sensationalize Richard Ramirez in the way that many others do.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out that a trial may have been unfair, that there was a lack of evidence, or questioning the credibility of witness testimony. In fact, questioning these aspects doesn’t disrespect the victims—it’s an important part of seeking justice. I often find that those who react negatively to the discussion of this case do so because they lack confidence in the belief that Ramirez received a fair trial or that the evidence conclusively proves his guilt. Instead of presenting facts, they rely on phrases like “he had evil in his eyes” or “he exuded evil energy” to justify their opinions, which are not based on solid reasoning or evidence.

    As a result, they resort to name-calling, blocking, and shadow-banning those who disagree with them because they struggle to engage in mature, rational conversations. While I understand why some people feel this way—the narrative pushed since 1985 and reinforced by the 2021 Netflix documentary has shaped much of the public’s view—it doesn’t give them the right to silence those who may think differently. It’s unfortunate that the truth of this case remains elusive because so many people stay silent, but that’s exactly why we need to continue questioning and seeking answers.

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      VenningB

      Sometimes I think I go too hard on Sakina Abowath. But then I remember how the petition said she should have been impeached for the really weak identification. And she probably should have been removed from the courtroom to calm down. Rape victims are often harshly cross-examined and the defence failed massively with her, given the semen testing in that case was not Richard. It was clearly mistaken identity.

      Yep. Earlier I saw someone who said anyone who tries to sanitize Ramirez should just be ignored! Pfft!

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        I sympathize with her, as it’s clear she was likely under immense pressure and had to relive what must have been a deeply traumatic experience. However, her behavior in court was less than professional. And wasn’t it true that she didn’t even notice Richard in the room at first?

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        It was implied by the reporters that she didn’t immediately know he was there and seemed confused.

        Dickman was the same and she apparently couldn’t differentiate him from his attorneys! But the excuse was that she didn’t have her glasses.

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        Vivi

        You’d expect that if someone was gonna do an in-court identification of the man they claim sexually assaulted them that they would at least have their glasses. I honestly can’t with the excuses anymore. I don’t think they understood or cared that a young man’s’ life was at stake.

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        They mistake “sanitize” with analysing court documents and crime reports.

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        Reddit logic is on par with Carrillo logic

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        Hahahaha! It’s one big circle-jerk.

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    Vivi

    Do you guys think that if law enforcement had been more competent, conducted a thorough investigation, and avoided the tunnel vision of trying to catch a “serial killer” at all costs, they might have uncovered stronger suspects for these crimes? Would they have had adequate procedures or technology?
    Side note: I realize this is probably an unanswerable question, but I can’t help but feel that the Night Stalker task force didn’t put forth their best effort in handling the investigation.

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      I gonna they could have, yeah. They had names of other people who should have been in court.

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    I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that when I first got the book, the first section I went to was the part on mitigating evidence, specifically to learn more about Richard’s childhood. There are so many fabricated stories and false anecdotes about it, and I wanted to see the truth for myself. All I can say is that I was shocked, disgusted, and angry. I can’t even comprehend how he managed to survive for as long as he did, given the immense abuse and suffering he endured. It’s no surprise that he turned to drugs and crime as a way to cope and survive. He was utterly failed by everyone around him and by the systems meant to protect him. I can’t understand how people could stand by and watch a young life be destroyed like that. They barely did the minimum, if even that, to address the deep-rooted problems he faced.
    Richard had so much potential to build a better life for himself, but he never received even a fraction of the help he so desperately needed. That said, he did make some poor choices throughout his life, especially regarding the people he surrounded himself with. But in reality, he had no positive role models to guide him toward a better path. His story is heartbreaking, and it shatters my heart to think of all the missed opportunities to intervene and help him before things spiraled out of control.

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      That was some of the hardest parts to write about, especially during the initial research when it was often overwhelming.

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    it angers me that all people were focused on was this thought of this monster the has heard in the new, and his groupies and fan girls! No one one cared at all about the facts the TRUE facts! They believed every single word that the media, reporters and Carlo and Gil had to say, they knew that they would listen to him not needed to do that facts! Gil mentioned a lot of faults and fabrication etc…. (If I’m correct) yet no one seemed to care? All i read is people comparing his life with others and theirs and I’m just shocked like why. Richard’s life was at stake why can’t anyone see that?! And just because I’m defending Richard and care truly about him I’m automatically a Groupie and Fan girl?! What utter disrespect for Richard that young man was suffering he needed guidance and help!

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    Pers

    I enjoy reading all of your comments and agree 100 percent with you!
    This case has shaken me in many ways, for example my belief in justice and democracy.
    Richard was betrayed and used his whole life even in prison. I’m just thinking of his fake pen pals “Rick Dickstein” (you can find the Phone Call with RR on You Tube) afterwards the letters were exhibited or sold. They should be all ashamed an they have no respect for the victims!
    When the death of RR was announced his relatives told El Paso Times “The world judged him, whether fairly or unfairly, it no longer matters. He is now before the true judge, the judge that sees and knows all things. “

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      VenningB

      I found it sad that some people faked being penpals. For the same reasons you say. Glorifying ‘killers’ just to make money, but then also playing pretend friends with people who are extremely lonely is sick.

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        Vivi

        What do you guys think of that Eric guy? From what I understand, Richard spoke to him quite frequently on the phone, and he helped Richard sell some of his drawings and other personal items. There’s an 18-minute phone call between them from 1997, which I believe is available on Vimeo. Eric seems like an okay person, but there’s definitely something a bit shady about him. He came off as a bit pushy, especially when he asked Richard for more drawings and letters. I think he still runs a website called serialkillersink.net, where he sells murderabilia and other items connected to criminals.

        Personally, I find that kind of business deeply immoral. It’s one thing to sell photographs, but selling their clothing or even items that could have been used as weapons is a whole different level. It turns these criminals into macabre celebrities, glorifying their horrific actions instead of treating them with the seriousness they deserve. It feels like it’s profiting off the pain of the victims and their families, which just seems wrong.

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        Pers

        I found this guy Eric a litte bit scary, but he said in an interview that he only want to earn money with his legal business and moral have no place. But he was clear to RR with his intentions an I think RR get money too form his sellings.
        But yes it is marcaber glorifying criminals by selling their clothes

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        Yes, Richard got a cut from the proceeds but got into trouble and lost privileges when he was caught. I can’t stand those “murder” sites, they are gross. There’s another “Serial Pleasures” that cashes in on serial killers, as well.

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        Pers

        This fake pen pals are hypocritical… people. I think RR was one warned by one pen pal about this and he replied: that’s why I did not tell much in letters about me or my case.

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      Yes, it is sickening, I think these people are beyond gross, seeing this case as way to get money for themselves. Fake penpals, grasping relatives and cops; they are all grifting off of these events. Apparently that’s ok, “Wine and Crime” nights are fine, where you can talk about what happened to the victims and wash is down with a nice Chablis, that’s not considered disrespectful. But you talk about court petitions and documents anywhere, and you get banned and a load of abuse. It doesn’t make sense, but then again, it never did.

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    sarah1997

    there’s this one letter claiming that Richard confessed saying he loved hurt women even tho he loved them etc…. It’s fake don’t believe it! People find so many crazy ways to make money from Richard! RichTd many times in his letters said politely that he can’t talk a lot his case or religion! Why would he tell someone random about this but not to others? If he told him he would have told others too! He never told anyone people keep making up claims of his confessions when he never once confessed!

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      There are many, many fakes out there. It’s best to ignore them.

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        sarah1997

        Yes exactly! But it crazy how people believe them so blindly! I read alot of YouTube comments defending that one letter I just mentioned! And tell harassing people about like telling them “ you an actually realize that he confessed right?” Without knowing it’s fake

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        Richard did not confess, but you will never get them to admit that. It is the same with that computer typed letter where “he” confesses to “letting a child go once”. Anyone who knows the case will understand why that is obviously fake. These arseholes muddy already murky waters with their inane nonsense.

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        sarah1997

        It’s crazy that this is allowed to Happen and on top of that we aren’t even allowed to question anything! I watch a lot of true crime especially this one last night about the Yorkshire ripper case his style of killing was like the the ripper exactly, Richard claimed he liked the ripper but he never said he liked him because of his “killings” all these other killers MO made so much sense! The MO that Gil claimed for Richard didn’t at all make sense not one bit, every killer I’ve seen had a specific MO and target! In Richard’s case I really truly don’t believe he killed or rapped anyone but knew maybe a few of those killers and later probably used and threatened by them, and also some of those other killers on this case didn’t know Richard and were just random criminals but somehow I can’t help but think Solano knew them and told them about Richard maybe!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Many people are interested in Jack the Ripper, myself included, you don’t need to be a serial killer to find that Victorian case fascinating.

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        sarah1997

        Oh definitely even I am as well interested in Jack the Ripper! I just feel like maybe they used that as One excuse for Richard if I’m correct?

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        VenningB

        The Jack the Ripper community is allegedly toxic as fuck!

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        ~ Jay ~

        I believe it, that’s why I have never even looked.

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        sarah1997

        What do they do? Do they imitate him like that york shire ripper killer in the late 1970s?

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      9. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        The Yorkshire Ripper wasn’t really imitating “Jack”, they just gave him that name.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhhh ok cuz when I was watching his case last night it said he was killing prostitutes and mentioned jack so I assumed he was imitating him or maybe I just misunderstood hehe,

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        I think they used it to “prove” that he was a psycho because he was interested in the case.

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        sarah1997

        They seem to have wanted any excuse to call him that! He wasn’t a psycho he was just interested in the case like me and you and sadly poor guy was just mental not ok at all I hate it sooo take advantage of mentally not ok people it’s so sad and I hate that they do that makes me so angry!

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      Pers

      When I started reading this letters I was horrified… then realized that must be fake ….it can’t be true.. this poor men RR is mentaly ill ……an then I discovered Expendable for a cause ….

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        ~ Jay ~

        We are glad to have you here.

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        sarah1997

        I’m happy that there are people that don’t believe the letter! I literally thought I was the only one until I found this girls YouTube page then through her page I found this blog and omg thank god I found this blog haha

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      Vivi

      I remember people calling out Shelly and a few others over the letters because the handwriting, content, and writing style didn’t match Richard’s at all. I’m no handwriting expert, but those letters looked blatantly fake. It was obvious in some of them that the writing was either traced or that someone was trying way too hard to mimic his handwriting freehand. If they’re selling those forgeries, they could potentially be sued. That said, I don’t have much sympathy for the people buying them anyway. Richard had a tendency to inquire about other people’s lives versus reveal things about himself in his letters. The only parts that he was kind of open about were his sexual experiences and fantasies.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Yes, there was a public “outing” because a boyfriend used to write fake letters and they’d sell them.

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        Vivi

        What happened to people making an honest living?!

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        Vivi

        No matter how hard my life has been or how difficult my family’s financial situation was, we never once exploited other people for profit in any way, shape, or form. I’d much rather keep my dignity, honor, and humanity by doing honest work than by trying to make money off of innocent people. Do these people have no shame? With that kind of “work ethic,” those who profited and continue to profit from this case would be out on the streets if they couldn’t capitalize on someone else’s suffering.

        Get a real job and create your own success instead of feeding off the pain and misery of others. It’s disgraceful to build a career on the backs of victims and their families. There’s nothing honorable about profiting from tragedy.

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        sarah1997

        They really should be sued! I feel and believe his sexual experiences and fantasies only came out after his incarceration and his life untreated for his mental health

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        Vivi

        He didn’t have drugs to cope and I believe he was paying prostitutes to sleep with while he was out. In prison he had neither of these things and had to find other ways to cope. I’ve actually started researching more into hypersexuality. It’s an interesting and extremely misunderstood disorder.

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        sarah1997

        He paid them? I never knew that! But yes i agree it’s very a misunderstood thing indeed

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        Vivi

        Unfortunately, during the 70’s and 80’s a lot of people engaged in prostitution. (I’m not in any way or form judging people that had this type of profession, I just don’t think it is the safest way to make money. There were a lot of serial killers walking around murdering prostitutes and sex workers.) In places like LA it was probably more prevalent. I believe it was mentioned that when Richard was around 12 or 13 years old he went Juarez and slept with a prostitute. He didn’t seem confident in himself to have actual relationships with women. Several of his so-called friends in LA said that he was never really seen with women.

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        sarah1997

        12/13?! I never again knew that I thought that was happening after he was 18! Yes I of course would never judge them either I’m not a judgemental person at all even if I don’t agree with some things! But yes I too think that profession is not safe at all.

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        Vivi

        I understand that it was more common back then for young people to engage in sexual activity earlier than we might consider appropriate today. However, the age Richard started is far too young. It seems like no one was paying attention to what he was doing, and he didn’t have anyone to explain to him what sex actually was. This lack of guidance could be why he developed such a naive, almost childish understanding of it.

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        sarah1997

        I totally agree! The poor guys had it so hard for him in life now one to truly teach him anything good, his brothers shame on them for teaching him all those awful things! I feel like his second eldest brother, his mom kinda and his sister truly cared I see it but they then selves were dealing with a lot of health problems of their own so it was really hard! It’s so sad my heart really breaks for Richard and his family I feel so bad and sad for them!

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        Vivi

        I have sympathy for them, some more than others, but I recognize that each of them endured an extreme amount of pain and suffering. They were dealt some of the worst circumstances in life, and most did their best to survive. My only issue is with those who are trying to profit off of him. I still can’t understand how they could do that to their own brother and uncle.

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        sarah1997

        I still can’t believe it myself to do that to you own family or just any human being especially know he’s not well and in trouble shame on some of them! I truly felt his sister really cared tho his niece Shelly and her mom and her dad I can’t even with them the lies and stuff she even on this one video I watched on YouTube she (Shelly) literally admitted that yes she sold his things for money like anyone else would I was like oh hell no girl that’s your uncle!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, it’s really misunderstood.

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        VenningB

        There’s one where the letter Y is really wrong and not like Richard’s at all, then halfway through the letter, whoever was faking it started to do his Ys. So low effort. I wonder if that was one of Shelly’s ex’s creations. Also, she was on a documentary and it showed some of her supposed letters from him. The pentagram was a badly drawn Star of David. I don’t think Richard would have made that mistake!

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        I was going to mention that very thing, drawing the Star of David instead of a pentagram. Richard definitely would not make that glaring mistake.

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        Vivi

        Wasn’t her mother involved in a documentary too. (Maybe it was the same one) She made some claims of assault against Richard. Her claims seemed very dramatized in my opinion. I have a very hard time trusting anything they say anymore. Again, not gonna outright call them liars. But I’m not gonna feed into the claims either.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, I feel the same way.

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        VenningB

        Yeah, Sandy. She made sure to say how cute and shy he was before claiming he assaulted her. I have a friend who works in a centre where people come who have been abused. She had to file the admin stuff and read notes. None of these victims ever refer to their abusers or assaulters as cute. So she finds this weird.

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        Vivi

        I don’t know if it’s true or not. But, I remember Gil said that Sophie Dickman called Richard handsome while she was describing her assault.

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    sarah1997

    but the thing is people still believe those letters you can tell them he never confessed and those letters are fake yet they will call you fan girl groupie! If I remember correctly I was on YouTube while ago and someone was stating facts from this blog on a comment section and the hater comes and you can guess what they said to that person!

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      Of course. Merely mentioning this blog gets people banned.

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        sarah1997

        That’s so unfair!! You before coming on this blog I was so scared to state my opinion and beliefs of this case ofc I still forever stand about what I said but it’s so scary it’s not even funny but this blog I’m so happy no one here harasses of judged you for your opinions

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        ~ Jay ~

        We keep an eye on it, that’s why you don’t see it.

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        sarah1997

        You guys delete the mean comments then I’m guessing! That’s awesome that you guys do that thank you! We need more people like you guys!

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        ~ Jay ~

        People are welcome to come and talk, ask questions. No one says they have to agree, but insults aren’t tolerated.
        It’s not as bad as you think, though.

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        sarah1997

        I agree eveyone has their own opinions even if you agree with some and not everything it’s ok! But you shouldn’t be harassed for it or judged or you the groupie fan girl that gets me angry the most, and no one here forces anyone to believe the same way which is really awesome! I hope one day people will understand like us

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        ~ Jay ~

        Legal documents upset a lot of people.

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        sarah1997

        I totally understand but it’s just still sad that you’re not allowed to even ask the simplest questions.

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    sarah1997

    I’m curious to know what the Jack the Ripper community does that’s so toxic as you mentioned venning?

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      She means it’s as bad as any other “TCC fandom”.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh ok gotcha, I thought it was like they are mimicking jack

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    sarah1997

    I was watching a trailer about the son of same and this one women that was being interviewed said “people who are obsessed don’t wanna see reality” this quote reminded me of Gil he was so obsessed he failed to see that victims original stated never matched Richard they became became tunnel visioned as you guys stated!

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      Vivi

      Reality is often far more complex, confusing, and terrifying than fantasy. I think that’s part of the reason why so many people avoid dealing with this case—it has so many layers and hidden aspects that it feels like you’re being pulled down a never-ending rabbit hole. And then you have people like Gil, who continue to perpetuate ridiculous narratives in media appearances and “wine and crime” events. How much more does he want to profit off of this case? When will it ever stop?

      I remember reading somewhere that Gil once said without this case, he would have been just another “fat, ordinary cop.” He openly acknowledges that he’s benefited from this case, whether it’s through media exposure or appearance fees. I can’t help but wonder how the surviving victims and their families feel about this constant monetization of their trauma.

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        sarah1997

        That’s just sick of Gil! What a pathetic fool I can’t stand him Richard’s life was at risk! Poor Richard poor his family and poor victims

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    Vivi

    I have always wondered how Mercedes felt during all this. It must’ve been agonizing for a mother to watch her child be portrayed as a murder and rapist and not be able to do anything about it. She suffered throughout her life, much like the rest of her family. Then, like the rest of the world, she learned that her son had died in prison. I highly doubt Richard allowed his family to visit or even contact him in the final years of his life, so the news of his death must have been an extreme shock for her. I can’t even begin to put into words the unimaginable pain a mother must feel in that moment.

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      sarah1997

      it breaks my heart too it still shocks me till today every time I read the book especially his upbringing I cried alot (yes I’m very emotional 😆) what his family went through especially his mom and sister jeez I just can’t. I remember before she entered the court (his sister) she said on an interview after being asked that she looks like she’s about to cry and she replied “I am” and that people keep judging then without getting to know them, that broke my heart!

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        Vivi

        I’m a very emotional person too! 🙂 I have a bad habit of internalizing other people’s struggles and problems as if they were my own, which can be exhausting, but that’s just who I am. When you look at cases like this, it’s nearly impossible not to form some kind of emotional attachment. You’d have to be almost robotic to remain completely detached. I get it. There was so much trauma, pain, and suffering in their lives—some of which could have been reduced if they had taken advantage of the resources available to them, and if the justice and rehabilitation systems had done their jobs properly.
        From what I’ve seen in declarations and interviews, it seems like many of the people Richard grew up with faced similar struggles. We have a window into Richard’s upbringing because of this case, but I wouldn’t be surprised if others in his life lived under similar conditions. The environment they grew up in was far from ideal. It was a poverty-stricken, drug-ridden world filled with shady characters, and the environmental factors like pollution and bomb testing likely contributed to many of the physical and mental health issues they faced.

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        sarah1997

        I completely agree with you! And I’m an also like that too it’s just who I am! I feel peoples pain like I suffer with them! My mom told me don’t let this ruin your health but I can’t help it I hate that Richard suffered like this! I’d even hate my own enemies to suffer I’m the type of person that would old rather suffer herself then see others suffer it’s just again who I am.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        My family is sick and tired at this point of hearing me talk about this case. I just can’t keep my mouth shut!

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        sarah1997

        Hahaha same with my mom when I talked about Richard’s upbringing to her she told me stop this is so sad. And I was tearing up!

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      ~ Jay ~

      Her pain must’ve been unbearable, no matter how much she let him down in his youth, he was her son. I can’t imagine how horrendous it must have been. I wonder if she ever looked back and wondered if she could have done more for him, done better?

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        sarah1997

        I believe once something bad happens we all have regrets about our past and what we wished we could have & shouldn’t have done certain things it’s really sad I feel so sad for his mom.

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        Vivi

        I imagine the last few years of her life must have been filled with immense grief after losing Richard. The pain of outliving her own child must have been unbearable. I truly hope that wherever she is now, she has found some measure of peace.

        She doesn’t strike me as a bad person at all—just someone who made mistakes and was born into an impoverished environment, doing the best she could with what little she had. Unfortunately, like many people in difficult circumstances, she may not have always seen the warning signs. There’s only so much a parent can do, especially when faced with overwhelming challenges. Despite her flaws, it seems like she genuinely tried to protect her family.

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    sarah1997

    I was just watching a serial killer about a New York killer documentary a new one on Netflix and they were talking about examples of others and yes RR was in there and I turned my phone off I just couldn’t watch it I can’t finished that series! I bugs me and makes me super mad with all the lies about RR I just want this to stop I can’t deal with lies.

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      Vivi

      They slap his name on anything and everything just because he’s a “well-known serial killer.” His notoriety draws in views and profits, even when mentioning him has no relevance to the topic. They’ll still do it, like in AHS 1984 or Maxxxine. It’s just lazy and ridiculous. Honestly, I’ve been trying to distance myself from the true crime community because it’s so toxic. People spread so much misinformation, and the constant recycling of the same narratives in documentaries and TV shows has become boring and repetitive.

      If you really want to learn about a case, you’re better off doing your own research. These so-called documentaries rarely stick to the facts and often prioritize dramatization over accuracy, despite claiming to be educational. It’s frustrating how the focus shifts from truth to sensationalism for the sake of entertainment.

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        sarah1997

        I agree I need to stop getting myself involved with the crime community tbh I don’t really stopped commenting on YouTube once I found this blog but the best research and investigation is this blog and book!

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Yea most people are just not open to having intelligent and proper adult conversations. They prefer to sit behind a screen and spew insults like children and not engage with people who have a difference of opinion because of how insecure they are of their own opinions.

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        sarah1997

        It’s seriously disgusting of them to do that! They say do your research hahahaha we did buddy it’s you that needs to do the research! And don’t say you read Carlos book or Google search or listened to Gily boy etc… cuz that ain’t research at all!

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      ~ Jay ~

      I have stopped watching anything about him because I know exactly what they’re going to say; it’s annoying and frustrating.

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        sarah1997

        I stop watching anything about him too, I’m watching other true crime cases instead but sometimes they mentioned Richard so then I stopped watching like today! It truly is annoying and frustrating I wish I can just scream at their faces! Fatos posted another Richard video yesterday and it’s about his friends I believe idk who they are and they were like no way is he NS not with the personality he has, and then there was this comment saying that there’s this book that recently came out about the truth they didn’t mention the books name but I believe they meant you! Then a hater comes along and says he weirdo he killed 9year old. So ya I’m just done I’m backing away and just sticking with this blog!

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        ~ Jay ~

        I saw it, that is Patricia Kassfy, she and Richard were very close friends, and yeah that comment was about out book.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh ok that’s her gotcha! Ok I was right then it was about your book yay! Also idk if you know who that one girl in this one picture of Richard he looked 17 I believe and this girl has curly hair?

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        ~ Jay ~

        It’s his sister in law, if it’s the one I think you mean.

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        sarah1997

        Thank you so much Jay!

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    Vivi

    I remember when I first came across the Netflix “documentary.” It was around the time I was just starting to develop an interest in true crime. The thumbnail caught my attention—it was an image of a shoe, speckled with dirt and blood, with the words “Night Stalker” in a menacing font.

    I watched the first episode, but to my surprise, I quickly found myself bored. Instead of focusing on the crimes, which I expected, the episode seemed to revolve mostly around the police officers involved in the case. I wanted to know about the crimes and the investigation, but they glossed over most of the details. They barely discussed the crimes themselves, which, in my opinion, should have been the centerpiece of the documentary.

    It felt frustrating—like the point of the documentary was being missed. I didn’t care about the backstories of the cops. I wanted to understand what actually happened, how the crimes were committed, and what evidence was found. Maybe it’s just because I prefer more direct, detailed storytelling, or perhaps it’s my short attention span, but it definitely wasn’t the best true crime documentary I’ve watched. learned more from reading a single post from this blog than watching that shit show.

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      sarah1997

      I’ve watched a lot and alot of true crime documentaries and this one made no sense to me and was the worst one ever! So much wrong about it and they focused on the groupies a lot too! I’m watching Ted Bundys and Jeffery dahmers case right now and I heard if I’m correct Bundy had fan girls and yet they focused eveything on his crimes and victims and same with JD and other criminals! Except Richard’s! They just didn’t care that a young man’s life was at risk but oh they benefited from him big time so who cares right? Wrong!! I care!

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      That damn documentary was so bad, it is responsible for sending us all down a rabbit hole in a quest to find answers; because there were none to be found on there. It just threw up a load of questions, but not too many seem to have grasped the glaring holes in the narrative. They completely missed out Carol Kyle, presumably because her description of the attacker and his “nice teeth” went against what they were saying in the programme. It was a very obvious omission.
      Thank you for the endorsement, it is appreciated.

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    sarah1997

    omg you guys I’m on part 27 section 2 and just wow the amount of new information I just read ( some I already knew) but yes lots of new stuff I read I just can’t believe it! Well done Jay Kaycee & venning a very well done job and investigation! I can’t believe what I’m reading! ( interesting – case I ain’t spoiling dw hehe)

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      ~ Jay ~

      Do you mean part 17?

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        sarah1997

        Omg yes part 17 😂😂 I didn’t even notice thnx Jay

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    sarah1997

    also I’m kinda confused about what Richard said in that new released interview “I still get dreams about what happened” I didn’t really understand what he meant by that.

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      VenningB

      In my opinion, he’s telling her that he’s traumatised to the point of having nightmares about the trial. Then he brushes it off by saying he likes nightmares because he’s putting on an edgelord front for the woman.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh ok i understand now! agree with your opinion it makes sense! Thnx so much venning for clarifying!

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        That’s exactly what I think he’s saying, too.

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    Vivi

    If I were to create a social media page dedicated to discussing Richard’s case, would I have your permission to use information from this blog and the book? I also plan to reference the writ, but I really appreciate how you all have taken the time to present the material in a more concise and understandable way. You’ve done such incredible work analyzing and untangling the complexities of this case, and I want to make sure I respect that. I wouldn’t feel right using your hard work without your explicit permission, as I truly value the effort you’ve put into presenting the facts in a clear, insightful manner. The last thing I want to do is “steal” any of that.

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      sarah1997

      oh wow that’s would be super cool! You have my support too! Which social media would you be doing this?! I wish I had the knowledge and brains like you all do you all have more knowledge and understanding of this case etc…!

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      Yeah, we’re fine with it, you have our permission.
      We only ask that you credit us.
      Good luck.. there was a Facebook group started dedicated to what we do, but it was filled with hybristos and never really got off the ground. That one had our permission, too, although it got banned. We also gave permission for the one on Tiktok but it’s always getting banned as well.
      Which platform did you want to use?

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        Vivi

        I am not 100% sure yet. But I wouldn’t doubt that it would get banned at least once. It’s weird. All of a sudden a bunch of social media accounts that were dedicated to him have been either banned or removed. I’m probably just being a conspiracy theorist. But I wonder if it’s because some sort of documentary or series is gonna come out about him again or it could be some sort of AI that the platforms are using. IDK

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, there’s been another purge, by the look of it.

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    sarah1997

    I just hope you don’t get banned or harassed I’m really getting sick and tired of people doing that idk how much longer I can tolerate it!

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      Vivi

      Lol the internet is definitely not the most civilized place. You gotta have tough skin. I don’t mind being banned. But I will not take any form of harassment. Immediately blocked.

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        sarah1997

        You go girl! It’s time to put an end those haters and harassment block them all hehe

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    Vivi

    I’m still kind of confused on the whole Abel Navarez (Nevarez) situation. The timelines just don’t add up. At first I was so sure that accident and death of his friend was something that Richard had actually experienced, but now I don’t know what to think.

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      VenningB

      It’s really bizarre! People keep mentioning it as a massive trauma he had and I think he even put it in a letter. Could he have imagined being involved somehow… I dunno

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        Vivi

        Sometimes, I feel like I don’t fully grasp the gravity or intensity of Richard’s mental illnesses and delusions. While it’s easier to describe what his interactions were like, truly understanding them is much harder, especially without witnessing them firsthand. I’m not sure if that makes sense. Sometimes I read through the psychological reports and try to imagine what he might have been like based on the behaviors and diagnoses that psychiatrists and psychologists suggested. It’s really hard to get a clear picture of his mental state.

        The Abel Nevarez situation is more complicated because several of Richard’s family members described how this “incident” affected him. There seem to be two possibilities: either Richard actually experienced it, but the timeline that we have is off, or the media didn’t report it accurately. Another option could be that his mental state, worsened by drug use and brain injuries, caused him to vividly imagine the event as if it had truly happened in front of him. I guess we will never truly know.

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        VenningB

        I reckon it’s the latter. Maybe he felt affected by reading it in the news then told everyone he was there OR they all read about it and it became confused with another story. Like a false memory. If it’s real, it’s funny how he’s always excluded from the witness list in reports. Like the Miguel incident. I have serious questions over him seeing the wife’s murder.

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        Vivi

        Regarding the Miguel incident, I’ve often thought that Richard may have deliberately distanced himself from the situation because someone had died. It makes sense that he would avoid mentioning his presence at the scene, especially considering the gravity of the situation. Miguel was the only person who could truly confirm that Richard was there when his wife was shot, so Richard may have chosen silence to protect himself. However, I’ve also wondered whether this event could have been another one of his delusions—something he read about or vividly imagined due to his mental state. I’m not trying to diminish or deny Richard’s trauma or personal experiences. However, there are certain details that just don’t seem to fully align or make sense.

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    sarah1997

    ya I’m actually confused about that too! I totally forgot to mention it! Thnx vivi for mentioning it!

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    sarah1997

    it’s super sad the amount of mental health issues that he has been dealing with, the fact that he did suffer really bad health issues but it really worsened after the use of drugs, as Richard said in a letter he took I believe LSD and mentioned that it was really bad for the brain he already suffered really bad brain damage etc… and still took that drug!

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      Vivi

      There seems to be a recurring pattern with Richard and many of his family members choosing what seemed like the easy way out when faced with their problems. The challenges they encountered were complex and difficult to solve, and in my opinion, likely required some form of institutional or professional help. However, instead of seeking those solutions, they often resorted to decisions that only made things worse—like turning to drugs and engaging in criminal activities such as burglary. While it’s understandable that these paths seemed like the easiest or most accessible at the time, it’s also true that they had the choice to make more conscious decisions to steer clear of those destructive behaviors and attempt to turn their lives around.

      Granted, it wouldn’t have been easy. The lack of education, compounded by drug addiction and the environment they were in, posed significant obstacles. The path to self-improvement is rarely smooth—it’s full of setbacks and mistakes. But by choosing to take that harder route, they might have made meaningful progress and changed the course of their lives, even if it took time.

      It’s easy for me to reflect on this from the outside, as if I have all the answers to their struggles. I don’t, and I acknowledge that. However, I still believe that had they made a concerted effort toward change, however difficult, they could have potentially broken free from the cycles of despair they found themselves trapped in. It may not have been a perfect solution, but it might have led to a much better outcome.

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        sarah1997

        Hmmm very interesting you mentioned all this, their situation indeed made it hard for them to choose The right way to handle things I honestly don’t blame any one of them for taking drugs, I think they just basically gave up on themselves I wish they had the right kind of help to guide them. That living situation that they especially Richard had to live through as super hard and tough and they being poor couldn’t find anther way so they did what they did drugs and theft they really didn’t have the right resources to help Richard sadly and with them abusing Richard it worsened his situation for sure badly, I just wish the reform school Richard went to noticed he needed help and helped him instead of ignoring it, why did his family have to lie to them and say he’s fine he clearly wasn’t and if im correct he wanted to get help!

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        Vivi

        I believe Richard’s family was deeply mistrustful of institutions and the government, which is understandable given their past experiences. However, their reluctance to seek help may have also been driven by pride. It’s a common feeling—no one wants to appear vulnerable or weak by admitting they need assistance, especially when it involves exposing their personal struggles to others. But sometimes, asking for help is a necessary step toward real change, and in this case, I feel that Richard’s parents, at the very least, could have made more of an effort.

        It’s up to the children to take advantage of those resources and improve themselves. They could’ve had a chance to make a real improvement in the life of a young misguided boy and chose not to. But the TYC did jackshit and only gave Richard the bare minimum.

        Richard, from what I can tell, seemed to have a spark—a potential desire to turn his life around. But he wasn’t given the tools or resources to channel that spark into something positive. Instead, he was essentially left to navigate the streets on his own, without any form of proper guidance or intervention.

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        sarah1997

        I totally and completely agree with all this! Even tho he had a family he was truly truly alone didn’t know what to do and figured the only way he’d survive is from what he’s been thought!

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        Vivi

        I know from most of my comments it sounds like I am blaming the family for everything Richard went through. That is not my intention. Richard has a intrinsic responsibility for his life and survival as do all people on this planet. That being said, his family did not provide him with the proper care or resources. Some of them purposefully put him on a negative life path. Richard should not be considered an anomaly in his family. Many of them lived in or still live very dysfunctional lives. When every single member of a family struggles physically, mentally, emotionally, financially, ect. Then it can be deduced that there is something within the family that is causing that pattern of dysfunction. I can’t and I won’t blame them for Richard’s “downfall”. But I will hold them accountable for things that they could’ve controlled and problems that they could’ve solved.

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        sarah1997

        I totally understand I just feel so bad for Richard my heart truly breaks for him and what he went through he didn’t deserve any of that. It just angers me that no one did anything to help him! His own brothers someone he looked up to as a role model thought him how to properly get high and steal and then his ex brother in law thought him bad stuff like peaking throw windows I think and then his cousin and then his brothers again introducing him to criminals! What kind of childhood is that?! He had no life from start to finish. I just can’t imagine the life he went through and his family as well not everyone is fortunate and lucky to have a good childhood or good people around them. After reading about Richard’s case and this blog and talking with all you amazing people and reading the book it made me realize how much I want to help people in Richard’s situation so they don’t end up suffering like Richard did! I’ve always wanted to do that but after learning about him I now want to fight for it! Ever since I was a kid all I wanted to do is help people and anyone and everyone! I truly care about Richard and I want to help people suffer like he did I just don’t know how!

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        He was definitely not an anomaly in his family, he may have ended up in the worst condition, but he was by no means the only one in his family immersed in criminal activities, He had his brothers and cousins (not just Miguel, there were others who went robbing with Robert and Julian) who influenced him in all the wrong ways, from a very early age, Of course we all have to be responsible for our own lives and the choices we make, but when an upbringing is so dysfunctional, coupled with trauma and all his cognitive deficiencies, it was truly a recipe for disaster.
        He was never going to have a normal life, nor hold down a job, nor be able to support himself in any meaningful way. The help he needed wasn’t followed up, even when he indicated he wanted to continue with counselling, it didn’t happen.

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        VenningB

        It must be so hard to try and help yourself when you’re slightly brain damaged as well. All his thought disorders would get in the way. I feel so bad for him.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , there are questions over questions about his mental health and the role of drug use in his life and his case. They obviously did not take this into account at all in his case , nor his young age ..nor his tragic upbringing . They did not want to give any mitigating reasons for saving his life. I have just read the comments of the book again..even twice. And I must say I had tears in my eyes while reading this fantastic Review from ITALY again ! There was also a feeling of helpless anger while reading this Review…it really is heartbreaking and terrible at the same time how everything bad happened to Richard and how Kafkaesk this machinery went into just one direction for him .And that somehow his fate was a cul de sac from the beginning to end. Acompanied by the Media , Hords of crazy ,frustrated Fans and Fangirls who made him to a Sexsymbol , to a Rockstar…the police , the inkompetent Jury , his stupid attorneys ..and , and.. I m not able to repeat the whole content of this great Review . But it made me think that there are still some things to be done !? Like Vivi is thinking about a social Media Page for him and his case . I think that is a very good idea. And , I recommend to read the Italian Review again to All of you. For me it was like a fire burning. I even would like to thank the writer soo much for writing it !

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      ~ Jay ~

      Thank you, thank you to all of you for coming here and sharing your thoughts and feelings with us.
      Each of you bring so much to the blog with your articulate comments.
      You make all this worthwhile. We probably don’t thank you enough, so.. Thank you again. All of you.

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        sarah1997

        you’re very sweet Jay! Bless you 3 for making this blog and book! Without them idk where’d we be or who’d we talk to about this with! It’s you 3 we should be thanking! You 3 brought so much more light into this case than you think! The things you have done for this case for Richard is amazing! Richard would truly be happy to read this blog and book! And he would definitely love that book cover of venning! Hehe

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      ~ Jay ~

      Whoever wrote that review did it with a lot of passion, it was really something to see. Yes, there is still work to do, and we will carry on.

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    Isabella 99

    When it comes to all those people who Profit from this ..like those awful penfriends …those awful hybristo girls to Philip Carlo or Carillo ..those make up edits ..or Nicolas Shrek …the list of people is so long …It s actually a mirror of our Société. Very egoistic Société..it sometimes reminds me to Nathanael West s novel Day of the Locust.

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      Vivi

      It doesn’t make sense to me why people can’t earn money through honest moral means. All of the NS victims suffered immensely and still suffer. In order for the books, pictures/drawings, letters, personal items, ect. of these macabre celebrities to have value, people had to die and suffer horribly. If you can’t show any form of compassion or sympathy towards Richard at least show it towards the victims if you believe that Richard was guilty of those crimes. Hypocrisy is evident when someone condemns Richard as a monster while simultaneously benefiting financially from his crimes. It’s impossible to maintain a positive public image while profiting from such a dark chapter in history.

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        ~ Jay ~

        You’ve nailed it, it IS hypocrisy. The monster keeps the cash flowing in for some people.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Carrillo is the worst of them, in my opinion. He should act with a modicum of decorum, or professionalism, at the very least. I think the latest “acting” debut is perhaps one of the most distasteful things I have ever seen; to act as a witness in the very case he became famous for is just awful.

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        VenningB

        He has this weird cult around him now. No other ‘serial killer catcher’ has this status. Everyone just blows smoke up his arse about what a hero he is but he can’t string a sentence together because he’s bullshitting. It’s really funny typing his words out verbatim for the book because it doesn’t make sense. He stops mid sentence and changes tense or subject so it’s disjointed. Because he’s thinking hard about what to say next rather than just recalling memories

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        ~ Jay ~

        He’s trying not to deviate from the script he sticks to.

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        sarah1997

        and the “wine and crime” thing is crazy!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, that is also horrendous. Imagine talking about what happened and swilling it down with a nice Chianti. It’s revolting.

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        sarah1997

        That’s so disgusting it’s so disrespectful for Richard , his family and the victims! This isn’t some joke!

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        ~ Jay ~

        It is now entertainment for the masses, and those same “masses” will lap up all the horror, but scream abuse if anyone points out the HUGE holes in the case. Hypocrites.

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        sarah1997

        I just don’t get it why! Why does it have to come to this?! The poor guys is dead what else more do they want from just let him rest in peace now for once in his life just let him have his peace finally! This really sickens me! And on top of that more documentaries and movies and podcast about him and Gil thinking he’s been at every crimes scene knowing how the suspect and victims acted etc…. Just horrendous I can’t believe they did this to Richard , his family and the victims. This case sickens me and makes me really angry! Did you know in the Jeffery Dahmer case once he was arrested and talked to lady in prison I forgot who she was but she was recording almost eveything JD was talking and he was allowed a cup of coffee and a cigarette packs! But Richard? They beat the poor guy up! And did awful things to him.

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