Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

The book is out! You can buy the ebook in the following links:

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And the paperback is here (although they might still be unavailable in some countries – check back in a few days. They can take a while to show up!)

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We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also as Jay mentioned during their Research and investigation for this case I as well felt disgusted and filled with emotions especially anger and sadness lies after lies how can you not be angry or disgusted?! I still get nightmares about Enzo’s Avias uhhh lol what happened to Richard angers me why would such BS be allowed to happen?! BIAS that’s for sure! I agree with Jay at feeling disgusted after knowing this case cuz of what happened to Richard!

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  2. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    omg you guys I was wondering where all our discussions went on this section then realize we are on the 3rd page! 😂 you’re all super amazing I love having these discussions with you all 3 page Already Wootwoot. Also sorry Jay venning and Kaycee for always bugging you and asking lots of questions.😅

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  3. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Yesterday, it suddenly hit me that 39 years ago, on August 31st, 1985, Richard’s entire life was turned upside down. It’s a strange and almost trivial thought, but it made me realize that he spent more than half of his life in prison and I felt really down thinking about it.

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      It makes me feel ill tbh. He went to prison the year before I was born and died still a prisoner when I was in my 20s and it freaks me out to think a baby grew into an adult in the time he was in solitary confinement. That’s so long. How did he survive?

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        this truly sickens me it makes me angry sad filled with rage and emotions! Why just why?! Why did they allow him to suffer like this?! They didn’t care at all about Richard or anyone else they just wanted to satisfaction of “catching the serial killer” for their own selfish gain! not caring who they have to bring down along the way to do so! Idk Myself how Richard survived this hell but he for sure was strong enough to survive from 1985-2013 and that’s tough!

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        He was incredibly brave and strong to endure what he went through. His story has profoundly impacted the way I view many aspects of life and even altered the course of my career path. Since learning the truth about him, I’ve felt a constant, dull ache knowing that his life, liberty, and humanity were stripped from him, and that he died suffering in prison. I often wish I had been old enough to write to him or even visit him, but instead, I focus on trying to shift people’s perspectives on his case. I aim to engage in meaningful conversations with those willing to listen, hoping to shed light on the complexities that are often overlooked. I sincerely hope that wherever he is now, he has found the peace that eluded him in life.

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  4. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Richard’s case is the only true crime case I’ve seen shit like this happen to, I’m sure there were others ofc just not as famous or crazy as this case, but I’m wondering how it be this famous the judge was always siding with the prosecution rejecting the things the defendant was asking, always on the groupies they even interviewed one of his groupies I think Bernadette? Again it’s always about the groupies what’s so special and stuff about this case that makes you ignore the important stuff not allowing others to question stuff like how we are doing!! Why so famous books movies tv shows documentary’s all for money and competition with other police force

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    1. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      The fact that they were already in the process of making a movie about him in 1989 before I believe the verdict was fully reached, is further proof that this case is solely a case grab than actually about justice.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I was watching this Depp vs heard case last night on Netflix and one man said something very interesting he said that there isn’t justice it’s not about justice or who’s right or wrong this is about what the jurors think! So basically if you give soemthing for the jurors to see they wouldn’t know if it’s fabricated or false evidence that’s what happened with Richard they didn’t (jurors) know that it was fake and plus why would they question the cops?! It’s so stupid and not fair for Richard

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        That’s how it is. A juror can only deliberate on what they’re given, if they’re not given anything in defence or mitigation, they only have the prosecution’s evidence to weigh up.
        That’s what happened in Richard’s case.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes exactly what happened,Richard really had clowns of a lawyers I wish someone helped out a bit with guidance about the trial but his mental health was very bad it’s really sad breaks my heart that’s he had this happen to him, that fact that his team had nothing to show is crazy I was thinking maybe one thing but nope nothing and his case was very defendable but was realized too late by the H twins that it was defendable poor Richard he really was there alone

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I’ve mentioned this before, but the jury for the Night Stalker trial was seriously flawed. They weren’t properly vetted, and many of them held strong superstitious and religious beliefs that would have biased their judgment, especially in a trial where Satanism was a key element. In a case like this, where the media was sensationalizing every detail, the jury should have been sequestered, or the court should have found a way to limit their exposure to outside influences. This kind of media exposure undoubtedly tainted their ability to remain impartial.

        I understand that the defense didn’t provide much evidence or testimony for the jury to work with, but the burden of proof still lies with the prosecution. If the jury felt that the prosecution failed to prove Richard’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, they should have caused a hung jury rather than going straight for the death penalty. From what I’ve read in the juror and alternate juror declarations, there was significant doubt among them, yet they still chose to convict and sentence him to death. It’s infuriating to think about how deeply this case was mishandled and how the jury’s biases and external influences likely contributed to a gross miscarriage of justice.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Those jurors were Chiron purpose I Bet!

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I agree. In contrast, the jury who served in the OJ trial were sequestered for 265 days, or thereabouts. In the Night Stalker trial it was all switched around, whereby the defence ultimately failed because they did not prove his innocence, the burden of proof turned back on them (wrongly), and they did not rise to the occasion.
        Ramirez was already assumed to be guilty and I believe that no jury was ever going to acquit, no matter how lousy the evidence, can you imagine the backlash?

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      7. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        They’d probably get death threats as well. It’s ridiculous that these people didn’t realize the ramifications of putting the wrong man behind bars and letting the real killers/rapists walk free.

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I mean even the defence got death threats. How backward is that? Death threats for merely doing your job, even though they did it badly.

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      9. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I can’t imagine the amount of hysteria that was going on back then for people to think so irrationally.

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      10. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        On a related note, I found that trial fascinating. It was intriguing to witness how the public’s perception of Depp shifted—from seeing him as the abuser to recognizing him as the one who was actually being abused. Before the trial, he faced an overwhelming amount of negative press and publicity, but once the trial was broadcast for everyone to see, the entire world could see through Heard’s lies. I can’t help but think that if Richard’s trial had been similarly televised, the outcome might have been at least a little different.

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      11. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I wonder if that’s precisely why it isn’t shown in full. Similarly the heavily edited interviews, cut and slashed to look the way they want it to look, rather than how it actually was. The point proven with the showing of the new parts of the 93 interview.

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      12. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        That’s probably the reasoning why. There is only so much of the footage they can cut out and move around. I still await the day we will get more of the footage. I can’t tell you how excited I was when I saw the new footage.

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      13. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        We were too, and it was STILL edited.

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      14. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I was think that too! And was think as well that if Richard had Depps lawyers this case would turned out so different!

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      15. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I agree with you, but it makes me wonder: even if Richard had an exceptional lawyer like Camille Vasquez, would public pressure and media influence have still swayed the jury to find him guilty? In high-profile cases, the court of public opinion often plays a significant role, sometimes overshadowing the actual evidence presented in court. With the intense media scrutiny and the public’s preconceived notions about Richard, it’s possible that even the best defense might not have been enough to overcome the biases that were already in place. The media’s portrayal can be so powerful that it may leave jurors feeling pressured to deliver a verdict that aligns with public sentiment, rather than what the evidence truly supports,

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      16. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Exactly that. The court of public opinion..

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      17. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        That’s true and sadly that’s the kid of media we have nothing but bias rants and hate and brainwashing people

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      18. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Whatever pays the bills for them. True journalism is rare maybe even dead in this age.

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      19. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Everything back then and now is highly influenced by money!

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  5. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    just came across another YouTube video that released 3 hours ago talking about the Richard and the mind of evil as if they know what goes on in every human beings minds?!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      There will always be those types of videos, they know it gets views. I don’t look at them, if I can help it. I wonder how hard they looked at his psych reports? If at all?

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Judging by these videos i doubt highly they didn’t look at anything important of his! I didn’t even look that video just saw the title it’s really getting out of hands so many of those behaviour videos too are weird and I don’t believe them at all they are reviewing his behaviour based off of edited videos of his or videos that make him look and are cut! I hate those videos never believed them

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    2. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      I find it hard to take seriously anything that comes from so-called “expert” YouTube psychologists, psychiatrists, or behavioral analysts. To truly understand a person’s behavior and character, I believe it’s essential to sit down with them for a proper, in-depth conversation. Only through direct interaction can you gain genuine insight into someone’s mind. The limited interviews available with Richard are heavily edited, and his words are often taken out of context to reinforce the Night Stalker image. These so-called expert analyses of his interviews and videos only add to the confusion and further distort the truth.
      I place my trust in the psychological evaluations documented in the Writ. These evaluations were conducted by professionals who spent considerable time with Richard, allowing them to properly analyze him. Contrary to popular belief, Richard was not found to be a psychopath, although he did experience periods of psychosis. From my interpretation of these evaluations, I see Richard as an extremely mentally unwell man who acted in irrational and paranoid ways due to the profound trauma he endured throughout his life. I do not believe he was a bad or evil person—just deeply misunderstood.
      I understand this might sound like I’m excusing everything Richard said and did, but that’s not my intention. I’ve encountered people I consider truly evil and immoral, and based on the insights provided by his ‘trusted’ family, friends, and the psychologists and psychiatrists who evaluated him, Richard does not fit that picture. He was a complex individual whose actions were shaped by a lifetime of suffering and mental illness, rather than inherent malice.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I totally agree with you! You can’t know a person thought or anything about them by looking at video tapes of them especially if they are heavily edited

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      2. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        I totally agree. And I really was so confused and upset about the amount of Analysis and Thesis papers of people who never met him but just have read about him and what he was supposed to have done !! I really hate those weird activities by those socalled ” experts “.

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    3. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      As I delved deeper into Richard’s case, I watched numerous so-called “documentaries” on platforms like YouTube, but most of them were nothing short of mind-numbing. They often parroted each other without offering any new insights or critical analysis. I even noticed that some of these videos included images that weren’t even of Richard or his family when discussing them, which speaks to the lack of attention to detail and factual accuracy in these productions.
      Most of these documentaries seem to rely heavily on Carlo’s book, treating it almost as if it were the definitive biography of Richard. While it’s understandable that people might use his book as a primary source, especially since it’s one of the most well-known accounts, it’s concerning when creators don’t go beyond it. If you’re aiming to provide a well-researched summary or an accurate overview of a case, it’s crucial to draw from multiple sources, cross-reference them, and critically analyze the information to arrive at the most accurate version of the truth.
      Relying solely on one source, particularly one as controversial as Carlo’s, can lead to a distorted and one-sided narrative. It’s essential to consider various perspectives and challenge the information presented, especially in cases as complex as Richard’s. Unfortunately, many of these documentaries fail to do that, resulting in a shallow and often misleading portrayal that does little to uncover the deeper truths or offer any real understanding of the case

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        There’s a particular picture that they always say is Richard and it definitely is not.
        It’s of a child, a girl, around 8 years old. It’s not Richard but it’s in almost every YouTube documentary.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I know exactly which you are talking about. There is also another one that they use of the one of the “Hubbard Heroes” (I don’t remember his name) and his family when they talk about Richard’s family.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        It’s lack of research and regurgitating the same misinformation over and over.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        People just don’t seem to understand or care about Richard and his mental health problems! That’s not a joke or funny, someone lost their chance to rehabilitate get help fix him self find love happiness etc…. All cuz of what money? Do they not understand how much mental health can affect a human in so many ways especially if they don’t have the support like Richard didn’t?!

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      5. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        You’re absolutely right, and it’s frustrating how little people seem to care about Richard’s mental health problems. During the 1989 trial, the Hernandez clowns deliberately kept Richard’s mental struggles hidden from the public, so his erratic behavior was only ever attributed to his involvement in Satanism, drug use, and the idea that he was inherently evil. This narrative stripped away any opportunity for people to understand the depth of his issues and the impact that untreated mental health can have on a person.

        Even now, as more information about Richard’s mental health comes to light, there’s still so much ignorance and misinformation out there. People continue to label him with conditions that were never mentioned by the psychologists or psychiatrists who actually evaluated him. It’s as if some people prefer to hold onto their preconceived notions rather than confront the more complex reality of his situation.

        The saddest part is that this lack of understanding and empathy robbed Richard of the chance to rehabilitate, to get the help he needed, and perhaps even to find some semblance of happiness. The fact that people overlook this just shows how deeply they buy into the superficial narrative, often fueled by figures like Gil, without doing any of their own research. They act as if they know and understand everything, but in reality, they’re perpetuating harmful myths that prevent a deeper understanding of who Richard really was and what he went through.

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      6. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I totally agree with you, when people say stuff “ oh I suffered the same as Richard but I didn’t turn out like him” omg just stop! How much more selfish can you be?’ Look at what and who Richard had bs you huh?! He had mom and nothing and very bad influence I hate when people compare their lives with his! You never stepped foot in his shoes so stop!

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  6. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    you know Vivi I too have dreamt and wished if I was old enough even tho I’m 1997 born hehe that I could have written to him and given him a true friend best him out listen to him. Plz don’t judge me for this, I just wanted to be his friend a real friend cuz he needed that I wanted to give him that myself.

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I’d have written to him too, had I known. I’d write him weird stories. I think prisoners would like to hear stories.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Hahaa they sure do! I’d honestly would have loved to also been a real friend to him I love giving people would they never had, I’d have given him life advise, joke around, stories too, And tell him that I along with others don’t believe the BS said about him, I just can’t bare the thought of what he went through! I know I’d be judged for this but idc cuz I care for Richard and not blinded by the crazy lies

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    2. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Yes , exactly ! Its like ” When 50 000 people read one same book the 50 000 receive or understand this one same book totally equal. ” ??? Those comments on You Tube can drive you crazy . If you let them , haha !

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I know, especially when they all think the shoeprints were conclusive. Richard’s defence have a lot to answer for!

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        sarah1997

        I agree! Oh don’t get me started on those comments on YouTube I feel like fighting with all of them I even called two of them peanut brains then deleted it 😂

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  7. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    When I think about Richards time in St Quentin I always feel extreme sadness . And then Doreen comes to my mind , it really comforts me a little that she was on his side. They knew each other for ca 8 years and she loved him ! I like that and I think he had a little luck this time . She didnt leave him for a long time snd even ” normal ” relationships tend to become difficult after some years or people get divorced . And …I guess that it s not at all easy to be married to a convicted serialkiller ..As we know her whole family broke up with her….I cannot know how things really were but I m sure it was good ! For both of them .At least I hope so ! And I think its not at all okay to criticise Doreen , people who do so should mind their own Business! Those critics have no right whatsoever to look down at her or criticise her and I believe that she did Support him as well as she could .And that was his luck .

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yeah. I know it turned sour between them but I do think she loved him and I’m glad he had someone to look after him.

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  8. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    We would all have written to him ! I m smiling while I write this ! ….

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  9. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes surely it turned sour between them but is it any wonder under those circumstances ? What they managed to do is ..incredible . But thats only my opinion .

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  10. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    yes I agree I truly believe Doreen loved him and cared about him, sorry cupcake Cindy but Richard found someone way better than you!

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  11. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Honestly, if I had even half the intelligence and courage that you three have, I would have started a YouTube channel or some other social media platform to make this information more public and accessible. But I’m a bit of a scaredy cat!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      You should! Just… maybe turn the comments off!

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        That’s actually a great idea! Turning off the comments would definitely make it less intimidating. Maybe I’ll give it a shot after all. Thanks for the encouragement!

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      ~ Jay ~

      YouTube is a vile place, same as Tiktok.
      The abuse levels are off the scale.

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        interesting-case

        (Just my opinion): 80% of all tiktokers are underage and their brains are not fully developed. The other 20% are adults and their brains don’t fully work either. Tiktok is a digital asylum for the unwell where the blind are leading the blind. And I also don’t get the people who get on the app to learn “knowledge” and “history”. To me, long form content, books, articles and blogs are much more useful. Not watching fast pace brainrot content or looking at some tiktoker doing voiceovers pointing the finger at some other tiktokers video.

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    3. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Yes , Vivi please start a channel .it will be so good , I m sure !

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  12. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Yes I agree with venning! We got your back girl and support you! No pressure at all tho! But yes I’m so down for that!

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  13. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    what about an Instagram page about this I was thinking of that myself not YouTube like you but Instagram!

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  14. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    what i was think maybe we can do Instagram and share an account idk haha

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    sarah1997

    the thing that annoys my the most those females that talk about the crime and person while doing their make up. They basically repeated eveything and anything that’s false misleading people again about Richard and his family and the victims! They are so annoying with their make up stuff ughhhh and eveyone in the comments section are like “omg wow” etc… and I’m just like 😒😩😑 as in like why are people believing this stuff without proper research?! They truly believe that those makeup true crime girls did their whole hearted research and are now sharing it. Their sources? Carlo and GILY boy!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yep. How can people call us disrespectful when they’re talking about the crimes and victims so casually while caking on foundation.

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        The way some of these channels promote products and sponsorships is honestly just gross. It’s like they forget that real people suffered in order for them to make content. The least they could do is show a bit more respect. That being said, there are a few good true crime channels that handle this much better. They delve deeper into the victims’ stories and strive to present the information respectfully, focusing on education rather than just entertainment and profit.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        You’re not at all disrespectful! I saying they for the wrong guy isn’t disrespectful, how is doing your proper research bad!! What we are to believe all the lies and make shut our mouths?! And tbh those girls put on way too much makeup 😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        We’ve tried not to be disrespectful, we do not gratuitously describe what happened, nor show pictures of the deceased, or the crime scenes. We haven’t added unproven details, like Carlo did, who had Ramirez kissing bullets. But for many, the court documents are disrespectful just because they exist.

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Imagine being mad at people for doing their job. He was convicted in the court of public opinion long before his trial took place. It’s astonishing just how much control law enforcement and the media had over people.

        Side notes: Do you guys know if the trial or parts of the trial was live broadcasted on TV for people to watch?

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I don’t believe it was ever shown in it’s entirety. Bits on the evening news, etc, but apart from that, I don’t think so.
        Otherwise the public would realise he didn’t have a proper defence.

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      6. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I wouldn’t doubt that it was partially done on purpose. Whatever, they released was probably heavily edited and doctored. Real journalism was dead back then too.

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      7. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I agree. That’s why no one seems to understand just how messed up that trial really was.

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      8. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        You 3 have shown only respect! Don’t listen to those bums! Nothing about this book and blog are disrespectful its beautiful written truthful and respectful!

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        interesting-case

        The only respectful true crime channel I’ve come across is Kendall Rae. I think she even partners with organisations that donate money to victims and their families. I don’t know if she’s ever done an episode on RR because she mostly does missing cases and lesser known cases but I would like to see a respected true crimer cover RR’s case. But I know that doesn’t fit her format because he is universally labelled as “guilty”.

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  16. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    while Vivi was saying to show this on YouTube I was thinking may Instagram but making it ofc private! To share information idk what do you all think?

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      I think you can do whatever feels right for you, but we are aware that people who share our stuff usually get banned. So bear that in mind, as well as the insults. We don’t like people getting abuse because of our articles, etc. It’s very unfair.

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        sarah1997

        I totally understand but don’t ever blame your self for us getting banned, YOU 3 DID NOTHING WRONG! I want to just spread my awareness for Richard and others like him, as for the abuse ofc I hate that but i won’t allow them to silence us just cuz they have the truth! Don’t don’t blame yourself for me or anyone of us getting banned! We got your backs and support you to the fullest! If defending Richard and you guys means getting banned then ok let get banned!

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    interesting-case

    Just curious, have you guys seen the blog Medium that made two posts on RR? In the footnotes, a lot of the content was linked from here (Expendable For A Cause). Im just wondering if you have any affiliation to this author?

    Part 1:

    https://countersignal.medium.com/the-night-stalker-hoax-part-1-cbd793bb6f6f

    Part 2:

    https://countersignal.medium.com/the-night-stalker-hoax-pt-2-02892b79f86c

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Hi, no affiliation with us, but I think they might be a member here. Although not entirely sure who.
      We saw it and were glad to see we’ve been credited.

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    2. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      Is she new? How is her content?

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    3. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      omg wait never mind I’ve seen this blog I’ve saved months ago haha just clicked on it and saw it and I was ok ik this blog! Hmmm ya she says a lot of the same things that you guys said I thought maybe she got that information from this blog!

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, they did, they credit us in their footnotes. We were happy with that, and traffic comes over from there to us; it’s all good.
        I have no idea who they are though, and we’re not affiliated.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I’m happy they credited you guys! Cuz the information sounds so similar to your information haha I’m more people do the same! We need this! Richard needs this along with eveyone else in his situation!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, I was pleased to see it, to be honest. Someone else shares our stuff on TikTok, with our permission. She translates the blog into Spanish.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh cool! I wish they investigated the original night stalker, his calls creeps me out he calls before he attacks! I wish victims never answered their phones! It reminds of my what happened with my cousin! Back home he was kidnapped 8-9 years ago and still till this day we don’t know where he is! The kiddnappers called my aunt and told her give us money and we will release your son so she did but they kept him and called again tell her how they are hurting my cousin I don’t want to say he’s dead but I think he is sadly. So this Deangelo guy l kinda in way reminds me of that with the calls at least

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        ~ Jay ~

        Oh my God, that’s horrendous. I am so sorry that has happened to your family.

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      6. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Awww thank you. 🙏🏻 it’s scary and very horrendous indeed. That’s one of the reasons why this case is so important to me and why I care a lot about Richard and his family

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      7. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Oh, that’s really frightening.

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      8. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        It is wish we knew where he is especially for my aunt but that’s unlikely to happen

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      VenningB

      We don’t have affiliation, no! We do sometimes receive blog traffic from them, which is nice.

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  18. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I have a question for you guys (Jay, venning, Kaycee)

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      ~ Jay ~

      Ask away… as ever, we may not have the answer but we’ll do our best.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        You’re all so sweet! Bless you 3!
        Ok so my question is what made you guys just shoot for this blog knowing that it can bring abuse and hate etc…. Where you scared at all about doing this and for the book! I’m just so curious to know what made you fight for this! I love it cuz it’s so inspiring to me! Especially at the risk you guys took!

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        We do worry because people become abusive. But ultimately, things needed to be said. So the risk is worth it.

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        sarah1997

        I totally agree with you! Like vivi said u guys had courage the kind I wish to have! You 3 are truly inspiring.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Courage? Or insanity… lol

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh did say something wrong? Oops sorry I meant like you guys were brave!

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I know what you meant and don’t worry, you said nothing wrong at all.

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        sarah1997

        Phew 😮‍💨 haha you’re amazing seriously! Ik your son is proud of you! Hehe

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        ~ Jay ~

        He thinks I’m insane.. lol
        Seriously, Sarah, you can speak freely here, never worry.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha kids, ok I will not worry anymore, I’m a worry head haha but ok ok you’re right! 😁

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        Ha ha! Yep, that’s the question.
        OK.. here we go:
        I remember all this going down, I was 17 when Richard was arrested. (Yeah.. I am old lol) It was on the news here, but not excessively.
        Afterwards, I didn’t think much about it again until years later. Years.
        I caught the last episode of the Netflix thing (my son was watching it) and it all came back. So I watched all of the docco on my own and was frustrated at how nothing was explained and how they skimmed through so much.
        Afterwards I decided to dig around to make sense of it and found a news article from March 85, the one where Officer Lou Gallegos explained all the children had independently described a blonde guy. Curiosity peaked.. and I dug more and ended up on the Supreme Court website and got the link for the 2008 petition.
        It snowballed from there, really. I soon realised this was too big for just me, so I roped the others in.
        Venning and I go back years, and I found KayCee purely by chance, and followed her round the internet to make her talk to me. Haha!

        I made this blog because I wanted it out there and I knew Twitter (as it was then) or Tumblr was not the way to go.
        I was sick of hearing the same old stuff over and over, people talking in circles and actually saying nothing.
        No one was talking about the trial, they were just revelling at the horror of it all, or drooling over him.

        There should be balance.

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      11. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Wow amazing! Well I’m so glad and happy you guys did this blog and book! I wish I was brave enough to do this I want to so badly but it’s scary

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      12. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        You don’t need to, I know you want to, but don’t put yourself in a position you’re not happy with.

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      13. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        At least we have this blog and book! Better than nothing tbh! And you guys did it way better than I ever could! Maybe in the future I will!

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      14. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        And in the meantime you have this to look forward to..

        Watch til the end. Look who’s involved in turning these events into yet more entertainment for the masses. And they say we’re disrespectful..🙄

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      15. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Omg omg why just why?! Do they think this trial is something for bringing entertainment?! Do they don’t care about Richard or his family or the victims at all?! This has gone on for far too long I just watched the link you sent me thank you by the way! And the whole time I had anxiety and anger poor Richard I can’t bare to watch this anymore. You guys are NOT AT ALL DISRESPECTFUL NO WAY! those people making this movie and doing all this videos are the ones whom are disgraceful and disgusting and disrespectful I’m calling them the DISFAM!

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        ~ Jay ~

        I have no idea why Carrillo has allowed himself to be involved as an “actor”. It’s so weird and creepy. Why? It can’t just be for money, surely he’s made plenty out of the Night Stalker case by now? Is it for fame? Glory?

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      17. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        He doesn’t deserve to be a cop not at all! I have a lot distrust for cops now a days. To me it seems he just doesn’t care who he has to lie to or put down as along as he get all this fame and fortune and hide himself a big name he’s won’t care what he has to do in order to get that!

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        interesting-case

        Oh hell no. What the hell did I just watch. Now he’s pursuing an acting career? Can’t take this cop seriously, sorry. This low budget movie looked more like a parody, especially with Carillo in it.

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        Yep.. I am nearly speechless. He is going to be one of the people who take down the ‘Night Stalker ‘, he was saying he gets a punch in and said it was “poetic justice”.
        Sigh..

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      20. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        He also had a cameo as a prison guard in the Night Stalker film with Lou Diamond Phillips.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I’ve seen that film, but thankfully missed that cameo.

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        interesting-case

        Jay, you asked why Carillo would do this. And Im not even trying to be funny. I think Carillo is having a midlife crisis and by reenacting his life through the 80’s, it may actually make him feel younger like he is back in time. Im not joking. This movie has nothing to do with Richard and everything to do with Gil Carillo. It’s not even about the fame. Has-been cop is just copemaxxing.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I wonder what Salerno and Falzon would make of it? It’s just so…so unprofessional. Late-life crisis might be correct, he’s everywhere re living his life vicariously through Richard’s notoriety.

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        VenningB

        Pensioner life crisis!

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  19. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    wait this is the movie of GIL?! Ok wait gotta sadly see it again I didn’t see him in it need go now and see it once more also I’m no way seeing this movie gotta control control that curiosity in me 😮‍💨

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      ~ Jay ~

      Watch til the end..

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  20. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    ok yup saw it again and finally saw GILY BOY dude has aged and not in a good way! Also that actor who was in spy kids forgot his name he as well is Mexican and I read about him he had abusive family like Richard and ended up doing bad stuff and sent to SQ but then later got released

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      VenningB

      Danny Trejo? I just saw him in Heat! A good Los Angeles film!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes him! He’s been in SQ then released!

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        sarah1997

        Is that a good movie?

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  21. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    LMAO I watched the trailer and the moment Gil came on screen I burst out laughing. WTF is this??!!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      So did I hahahahaa. He’s playing an aged gang member called Rafa. hahahaha

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        Vivi

        A cop turned “actor” gang member.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Yep, it’s a real WTAF moment.

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        Vivi

        I’m glad I watched that I needed a good laugh today.

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        ~ Jay ~

        It’s certainly lightened the mood.

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  22. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    hahaha I’m curious to watch the movie but at the same time I’m like nope, he’s really taking things to an extreme level this GIL hey? Hahaha now that o noticed his face after the second time watching it I too laughing and then my mouth went to 😮

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      VenningB

      Yeah I do want to watch it! I am researching 1980s L.A. so… it might be useful. But Gil. Ugh. I bet it won’t be available to view outside the USA though.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        There a website I go to called M4UHD yes I pirate movies 😂

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  23. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I want everyone to know here that you are all beautiful amazing people and so much fun to talk to hehe! Never change for anyone! Thank you all for allowing me to express my feelings and emotions it’s an awesome getting to know you all. I maybe not know you all personally but that doesn’t stop me from caring about you all cuz I do! I hope I hope we can continue to always talk like this!

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    interesting-case

    Does anyone know which RR’s first court hearing was? Was it the one where he had the yellow jumpsuit on?

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      His first court appearance was in LA , possibly the day after his arrest, or maybe the day after. (Need to check) The yellow jumpsuit was in Orange County , he was arraigned in December 85 there, and he still wore his LA County blue jumpsuit for that (according to news reports). The preliminary hearing was 87, and I guess they put him in the yellow one for that. I’m not entirely sure.

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        interesting-case

        So hard to keep track when there’s so little footage. In the couple yellow jumpsuit’s I saw he seemed to doze off. I guess that’s where the rumor started of him falling asleep in court.

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  25. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    yellow? I thought it was the blue suit when he was behind the cage bar thing

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      interesting-case

      He had a yellow one at one point too.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yeah, he did. Blue for LA, yellow for OC and red for SF. Then he had the blue shirt/jeans in SQ.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ya I thought so too I saw in a video on YouTube his hair was really short so I’m assuming it was pretty much after he got arrested

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  26. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I just hope there are no more movies or documentaries about Richard after this crazy movie but i doubt it! We have to protest! ✊🏼😮

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Sorry to tell you there’s the NBC documentary currently being made, which is gathering up as many ex groupies they can find, as well as Gil Carrillo. Ha ha!! Same shit, different day.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Does GIL want to be a cop? Actor? Comedian? Who knows ugh that’s annoying I was hoping your answer was NO😪😩

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        ~ Jay ~

        It gets worse, he’s also involved in the writing of an 8 part ‘something’ as a script consultant. lol Richard Ramirez keeps him very busy and constantly in work.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        As interesting-case said “oh hell no” jeez what’s up with him like seriously this trial isn’t a joke this case isn’t a joke! To do this to Richard, his family and the victims?! I can’t even I’m just so speechless, poor Richard he even knew he was a money maker for them and yet he still was sending letters to pen pals!

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  27. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also I’m curious now about the justice system in the UK I think that’s where you guys are from if I’m correct?

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      ~ Jay ~

      The justice system in the UK not quite as bad as the US, but it has major faults. There was an exoneration that made the news this year. A guy had been convicted of rape and served 17 years, he didn’t do it and was freed. The victim had wrongly identified him, and although there was no physical evidence, he was sent down for it.
      There’s been many miscarriages of justice here over the years, thankfully we don’t execute them so they live to tell the gross misconduct tales.

      What’s laughable is when someone is exonerated, they get compensation, and then (get this) the prison board will request money for their “bed and board” out of their compensation package, They actually charged them for food and lodgings in the prison, where they shouldn’t have been anyway.

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        sarah1997

        Omg seriously. What is up with all the misidentified suspects and victims doesn’t that seem strange how come it’s always happening more often now

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        sarah1997

        I’m also glad the justice system over there isn’t bad! I’m totally against the death penalty/row I hate it so much. I feel like the US has the On my way! Of the worst justice system ever, is more like the rich vs the poor if you’re rich you can get away with it but if you’re poor or a minor yikes you stuck! That’s not justice!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Oh it is, bad, believe me, just not quite as bad as the US and that’s only because they don’t execute innocent people. It’s still dependant on a good lawyer and money.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh. Jeez, this reminds me kinda tho about the Depp vs Heard case and the UK said some awful things about Depp and a bunch of other stuff

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  28. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    Just when I was about to close my browser and not post more on RR tonight, this popped up in youtube premiers.

    https://i.ibb.co/ypJVTCF/Screenshot-20240903-030317-You-Tube.jpg

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      ~ Jay ~

      Ah, yes, Sex, Satan and the Cecil Hotel. 🤣

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      sarah1997

      why is it alway that crazy hotel?! Every ghost hunter goes there and Rickard’s name pops up,

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  29. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    there’s this one video of Richard in a blue suit idk where he was LA or SF but he had a mushroom long hair cut and he was just laying his head on his hand and was as well looked dozed off and tired and also you can clearly tell by seeing that he had some kind of mental health problem.

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      ~ Jay ~

      If he’s wearing blue it’s the LA County Jail jumpsuit.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        What about black with white stripes

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      interesting-case

      Is the one where his hair actually looks washed and combed and straight like he has bangs? He rests his head on the table. I wish there was more footage from that day. Because depending on what day the hearing was his mood differs a lot.

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        VenningB

        I know what footage you mean. I don’t have any links though.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes that’s the hair style he had correct! Is no more of that footage hey?

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        ~ Jay ~

        I have only ever seen that short clip.

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Do you know what’s truly annoying that with Richard there’s not much videos of him like where is the full interview with him and watkiss!! Also that new video released weeks ago Ik that’s not the full one! I hate that they are hiding all of this! I know they hiding something for sure!

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  30. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also what are your guys opinions about that one video made 2 years ago by Eva O and those other 2 girls, tbh I found found weird and I think they were trying to get Doreen to tag along to it too if I’m correct?

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      Pers

      Shoko Hara made these film. I´ve read in an interview with her that she once write RR too, but then stopped, of course because she is a “correct person” .. oh and she was scared too. The filmmaker said, that she wanted Doreen to take part in her film and made contact with her on facebook, but Doreen did not responde. The filmmaker then contacted the relatives from Doreen and they blocked her….. yes a “correct person”

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        That’s whacked lineage Doreen out of this. This movie just looked like a much of groupie fan girls

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      2. Pers Avatar
        Pers

        yes that is true…. Doreen ist not a groupie…. and her decision not to to take part was wise because of the disrespect for all

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        ~ Jay ~

        I agree. She always flew under the radar, apart from the interviews she had to give to promote the Carlo book (she regretted that). It can’t have been easy for her.

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        sarah1997

        People claimed that Doreen was a groupie but tbh I never saw her as one, if she was a groupie wouldn’t she have bragged about marring Richard? But instead she wanted privacy she didn’t at all bragged about it as far as I know but the only thing I didn’t like of her is that she sold his stuff I would that not respectful at all. I’m just curious about her letters to Richard how did he purpose to her and stuff.

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      YesIAmEvil

      I tried to contact “Sarah”, long before the video came out. She used to have a Youtube channel and had some interesting videos there, about philosophy etc. And also a few in which she talked about Richard. I remember that she showed a drawing of her that Richard had made for her. He had drawn her several times, always the same pic, but slightly different, a side view of her, on her knees, sitting on her feet, with her red hair… Maybe you have seen them somewhere. She showed the original pic of her, that she had sent Richard. However, she was not interested in talking with me about Richard and answered me only once or twice. Later she changed her Youtube channel and then deleted it completely. I believe it had to do with her job. Clients probably wouldn’t understand that kind of content. I found her interesting, but on the other hand also a bit “too much” for me. I’m not a hybristophile and I’m not into things like BDSM or body morphing etc.

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        sarah1997

        Hmmm interesting that she answered you twice! Yes I’ve seen that drawing! I feel like those 3 especially Eva O were fan girls she did write a song about him “night stalker” she kinda freaks me out tbh, what I’m curious about is on that one interview with Watkiss he says he gave up on love and happiness a long time ago, so I was wondering is it maybe cuz he did end marrying Doreen so I thought maybe that made him a bit happy but then I saw on one of his letters answer “no” to being asked if he loves anyone. LOOOL when you said you tried to teach Sarah I was think of me cuz that’s my name too and spelt the same way (Sarah!)😂

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        YesIAmEvil

        I think he meant that he gave up on love and happiness after his first relationship broke while he was in reform school and then his girlfriend married someone else. But I think that was not the only reason. I believe that he just realised at a young age that people talk a lot and then do something else as they said. Like everyone… parents, friends, girlfriends, church, teachers etc. I think Doreen was more like a good friend for him, he trusted her (which means a lot, if you know that he practically didn’t trust anyone), she was reliable. And she was the one who stayed. Many others came and left after some weeks or months or maybe after a few years. Regarding Sarah.. she didn’t tell me anything, only one or two short messages (I don’t have them anymore) I remember only that she believed he was guilty. And I believe, she was later in a relationship with another guy on death row. (But I’m not 100% sure about that)

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Honestly that Sarah girl after you said this gives me the creeps she too was blinded by the lies about him but was only fascinated by the media’s portrayal of him as this “monster” and as we know he had lots of fan girls

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  31. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    why is it that only Richard’s case is treated like this!! Look at Bundy’s for example he had Groupies and fangirl and also people writting to him! So why Richard only?! I get it that RR was very poor with mental health problems & TB wasn’t but still look at how well they treated TB Case they knew he was guilty yet they treated him as innocent until proven guilty while with RR it was already assumed guilty weeks before his arrest when there reasonably doubt and that Richard didn’t commit those crimes but someone else did. And after all this TB was allowed a fair trial but Richard not? Like he wasn’t allowed to prove his innocence?!

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      Vivi

      While I’m not deeply versed in the Bundy case, it seems likely that media exposure played a significant role in shaping public perception. Unlike Bundy’s trial, where I have found a decent amount of footage, Richard Ramirez’s trial wasn’t aired, and we have only a fraction of the footage from his proceedings compared to Bundy’s. Despite this, the media played a crucial role in amplifying Ramirez’s infamy. His face was frequently shown, and media outlets were relentless in their coverage. This constant spotlight contributed to his public image as the “Night Stalker” long before he was even convicted, essentially turning him into a macabre celebrity. The media’s portrayal of him was often skewed, focusing on sensational aspects and editing his statements to paint him in the worst light.

      Interestingly, Ramirez seemed to attract a larger following of admirers than Bundy. Some of his fans were quite vocal about their admiration, which was more apparent compared to Bundy’s groupies.

      On a related note, Bundy did have access to competent legal representation, though he frequently clashed with his public defenders and tried to dismiss them. His ego and stubbornness might have hindered his chances more than his legal team’s competence. In contrast, Ramirez’s legal defense was notably inadequate. Had he stuck with his public defenders, he might have had a better shot at receiving a fair trial.

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        sarah1997

        i can’t believe people manipulated Richard into ditching his public defender so unfair

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Richard was, to some extent, manipulated and influenced by those around him. His family harbored a deep distrust of public defenders, believing that private attorneys would better protect their interests. At the time, Richard appeared highly susceptible to coercion and went along with his family’s wishes, likely without fully grasping the gravity of his situation. He probably didn’t see any reason to question his family’s judgment, especially given his limited understanding of legal proceedings, which was rudimentary even by layperson standards.
        One thing that puzzles me is whether his family believed he was guilty from the outset. I recall reading in Manny’s declaration that Rosa expected to receive upwards of $300,000 for a movie or book deal. While Manny is known to be a crook and a con man, there’s likely some truth in what he said. Expecting such a large sum of money from a deal suggests that the family may have believed, on some level, that Richard was guilty. This implication has stuck with me, and I often find myself thinking about it.
        The separate agreement Richard’s family had with the attorneys also complicated his defense. It created a conflict of interest, as no attorney wants to alienate the person who is effectively paying them. This arrangement likely undermined Richard’s defense, as the attorneys may have been more concerned with appeasing his family than providing the best possible representation.
        In the end it all seems to just be about money, money, and most of all money.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        This whole damn case is hair for money and about money no one seemed to care at all about Richard or the victims

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    2. Pers Avatar
      Pers

      Yes, I agree. The RR case seem like a “true crime Hollywood film” but with real actors …. it is so sad for RR and victims ! but I am convinced that this book will open the door for the truth, maybe not yet but in the (near) future….

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        sarah1997

        I really hope so! I always idk about you guys but for me I always say lies can never before eventually the truth will come defeating the lies! People can try to live with the lies about Richard but it won’t last cuz the truth is much stronger. But the problem is people are fixed on the lies theirs minds are made up and are way to suborn to learn the truth.

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    sarah1997

    like nothing at all makes sense this is what Gil and his band of gily boy want, for us to keep wondering but knowing that we ain’t at all getting answers or at least the truthful answers and for us to constantly get confused each time we dig deep into this case! This man can’t seem to figure out what career path he want one minute he’s a cop next he’s an actor that plays a gang member then his final career a comedian’

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    interesting-case

    Does anyone know how many times per year Doreen would visit Richard? Im asking the most random questions but Im curious about a lot. Im sure there must be records of her visits.

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      sarah1997

      dude dw I’m just as curious! I do know I think she visited him 3-4 times a week? But total # a year I have no idea but I too would like to know! And about how many letters they have sent eachother

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      I have a schedule from SQ somewhere, I have been trying to find where I saved it, without any success.
      I can’t quite remember how many visiting slots he had during the week, I want to say Thursdays and Saturdays, but I could be wrong. I will keep looking.

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      1. N. S. Avatar
        N. S.

        Speaking of visitors lists. Of course Gil Carrillo claims that he visited Richard, at which point these detailed confessions supposedly happened. So, I’ve thought that if the lists of visitors still exist, what would they show? Of course even if Carrillo showed up on it, that wouldn’t tell us anything about what was or wasn’t said during the visit. But what I’m thinking is, wouldn’t it be “interesting” if it turned out Carrillo didn’t even show up on the visitors lists at all?

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        VenningB

        I definitely think he exaggerates everything. I found him telling three different versions of the same story in his guest appearances on podcasts. These regarded offers to confess while in San Quentin.

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        I think Carrillo imagines things too much. All the fame is going to his head.

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        interesting-case

        Good point made, “N. S.” I think it’s wise to assume anything Gil says is pure speculation or figment of his imagination. That’s how little credibilty he has.

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  34. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    what about her letters to him do you think they would release or have released them? Also if you know, was it him that purposed or her?

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  35. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I was rereading the parts about Arturo Robles, and while I don’t believe he’s a saint, I think it’s deeply unjust that he was so blatantly exposed in the 2021 Netflix documentary probably without his consent. The police put him through a lot during the initial investigation and interrogation related to the Night Stalker cases in the 1980s. Nearly three decades later, dragging him back into the public eye and destroying his reputation seems incredibly unfair. People often don’t realize how even mere accusations can completely ruin someone’s life. If I were in his position, I’d seriously consider legal action. How many people’s lives are they gonna ruin?

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      sarah1997

      They abuse their position that’s the thing rheu don’t care at all about the reputation of others. they are just init fir themselves and to get Recognized in my opinion

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      Pers

      That`s the problem with this case. People can be destroyed with accusation. I think Doreen too avoid public because you can’t win. I am not really sure if Doreen really sold his ashes? People claim everything in Tic Toc or You Tube, they have nothing to loose no reputation, nobody put legal actions…. the death of RR on the other hand is very protected…. I agree because of his human rights! but what about constant speculations and repetitions?

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Hi, Doreen did not sell his ashes, she scattered them where he wanted to be. She did sell the box they were in and his toe tag, though.
        Both are now in a museum in Las Vegas.

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        Pers

        Thank you Jay for this information

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        interesting-case

        I don’t condone what Doreen did, but I can understand why she would. She dedicated her life for him and fell out with her family. For all we know maybe she had to move location and even had to quit her job or get into debt in order to help Richard with money for commissary ect. She did her duty by granting his wish where to scatter his ashes. The money she esrned for the box and tag may have paid her debt or even paid for her new ID and relocation, which she allegedly did after he passed.

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        I agree. She stepped up and did right by him, as she always did.

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        Vivi

        When I first heard about it, I couldn’t help but wonder whether she really sold Richard’s actual ashes box and toe tag or if she somehow created replicas and sold those instead. I’ve always had this sneaking suspicion that not everything she sells is genuinely Richard’s. It’s just a thought that’s lingered in the back of my mind, though I’m not trying to accuse anyone of anything. I’m sure there would be serious legal consequences for doing something like that, but the whole situation still raises questions for me.

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  36. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also I’ve seen some things on Pinterest I took a screenshot where someone said that Manuel Barraza said that Richard told him he’s not the night stalker.

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  37. csmutny06cae8b36d Avatar
    csmutny06cae8b36d

    What are your current stats on the book so far. The book is fantastic, I am on part 6, just finished the Knieding murders. I read somewhat on the slow side, just because I want to really comprehend what I am reading, bad habit of mine 🤪 Anyway, how’s everyone doing?

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  38. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m on part 12 section 6 got super sick so couldn’t read today 😩 don’t want to give Spoilers! Hehe but yes this book is for sure fantastic! My favourite book ever no joke!

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  39. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    jay can I ask you another question if you don’t mind?

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      What is it? I will try, but as I always say, we don’t know everything.

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        sarah1997

        Haha ofc I never forget what you say to me! I’m just curious, are you guys gonna keep this blog or get ride of it now that the book is out, are we still able to talk and discuss anything here even after the podcast?

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        The blog will stay, it came first before there was even an idea of a book.

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        sarah1997

        Omg yay!!!! I’m so happy you said that! I just love discussing with you 3 and eveyone else on this blog about this case I can’t find anyone better to discuss this case with than you all! Bless you all!

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        ~ Jay ~

        If I could think of a better way to have discussions I’d set something up, but at the moment I can’t.

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        sarah1997

        I feel like this blog or app haha is really fun! But of course if you do find something ether better for us all to discuss on Ik you’d use that but really this blog is great to discuss on! I mean look at the discussion we are having over 600 comment getting to 700! That’s just amazing and Jay your son better be proud of you for this!😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, it is a good place, but we are not private. Yeah, he is, but he still thinks I’m crazy. Hahahaa!!

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        sarah1997

        Hahaha kids will be kids! But I know deep down he’s proud of ya and happy you’re doing this! 😁

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        VenningB

        We’ll never get rid of the blog!

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        sarah1997

        Yay!!!! I’m happy! Bless you 3 you all are amazing people

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  40. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    I got this notification 30 minutes after my expected delivery.

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      sarah1997

      wait so now your getting your book today?!

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      interesting-case

      My delivery is heavily delayed by over a week.

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        Oh no! Do they say why?

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        interesting-case

        No explanation to why. Just this.

        https://i.ibb.co/VB89n92/Screenshot-20240904-204341-Chrome.jpg

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        ~ Jay ~

        That’s really bad! I know a book is on it’s way to Ecuador and that one is taking a long time, too.

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  41. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    why?! You should complain to the delivery people if soemthing is wrong I hope you get your book soon!

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  42. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    That’s not fair September 12th?! wait plz tell me they didn’t take out the book on Amazon?!

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  43. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    learning more about this case it’s seems like it doesn’t matter what Richard’s teams does as vivi and I have talked about even if he shows proof of his innocence and has competent lawyers I feel as tho the media the prosecution etc… can manipulate it and still the results would come the same, I might be wrong but that’s just what I think. They were way too bias of Richard and just wanted someone to take the blame for the crimes lazy ass popos for sure they were! So doesn’t matter what Richard’s team brings out the bias rate was way too high he was always gonna get the same results I think! Poor Richard

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    sarah1997

    do any of you guys wonder if Gil has read this blog and thought to him self like “oh shit I’ve been caught/exposed” I always wondered what he’d have said and thought idk maybe it’s me that just thinks this 😂

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  45. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    How many copies have you sold so far since the launch?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Not enough! About 60 I think.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I’m sure you will sell more but still 60 is amazing!vi read some of your reviews on Amazon too!

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      csmutny06cae8b36d

      Thank you! 😉

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  46. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I was on Pinterest a few days ago and came across this picture of Richard and saw the caption saying “Manuel also said that Ramirez told him he is not the stalker.“ what do you guys think?

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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      It’s referring to Manuel Barraza and one would imagine that’s exactly what Richard would have told him.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        So I’m guessing this claim is not true then as in Richard never said this?

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        How are we to know exactly what Richard said to Barraza? We don’t and we can’t.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        True, hopefully one day! Thank you for answering the what as you can i know and understand we don’t have the answers to everything sadly but one day I hope we all will have it!

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        sarah1997

        I’m so sorry if that question annoyed you should have remembered we don’t have answers to everything I do that that but idk why I forget this time I guess it was a question I really wanted to know haha sorry again 😅

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        ~ Jay ~

        You didn’t annoy me at all. Please don’t worry.

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        sarah1997

        Ok thank you! You’re very kind!

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        I probably didn’t word my reply very well. When i said “we”, I meant any of us, me, you..anyone. I am inclined to think that Richard would definitely say he was not the Night Stalker to his sister and Barraza, it’s hard to think otherwise. You don’t ever need to worry about upsetting me, you do not come here and insult us, you think, you engage, you ask pertinent questions. I am glad you are here.

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        sarah1997

        Oh plz don’t think you said anything wrong maybe I misunderstood it it’s my fault! You’ve only ever shown me kindness, thank you! I am glad I’m here too and I will forever continue to engage and support you guys and defend you guys hehe! You’re all amazing people you 3 and eveyone else!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Bless you, you’re such a sweet person.

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      10. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Thank you! 🙏🏻 and so are you and everyone else on here! Bless you all as well!
        And let’s get people reading this blog and book! Also I’ve came across few reviews for the book on Amazon!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, it’s had some good reviews so far. lol
        There will be bad ones, we know, but we also know why.

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        sarah1997

        Sadly I can’t deny that there will be bad reviews but I’m curious to see if Gil will buy that book or any of Richard’s family members!

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        VenningB

        I have to try hard to ignore them when they come. Because I know they’ll be caused by anger combined with denial and an inability to understand the legal system and nuanced arguments. Not because it’s a shit book.

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        sarah1997

        It angers me that they have this fixed mindset instead of an open mind you have to be willing to be open to learn new things they can’t just accept the official narrative as truth and we are lying! Ik we can’t change their minds but people should just be willing to see both sides to the case and see that there’s reasonable doubt to almost everything about this case! They put too much trust in the justice system and judge and cops when not understanding that all of that is so flawed it’s not even funny.

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        sarah1997

        I gave you guys 5/5 stars for the book hehe

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        VenningB

        Thanks SO much. It means a lot!

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        sarah1997

        Of course you Jay and Kaycee deserve it! You 3 have worked so hard and did so much more than me or any of us can do! I would love to do it too I would love to show people that he’s ok defending Richard but Ik I will get hate haha sadly! But yes I hope you 3 find success from this book! I’m almost done the book! A lot of new and interesting information great work to all 3 of you! Take that GILY BOY HA! 😂

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        sarah1997

        I would love to do it too I would love to show people that yes I’m defending Richard**** autocorrect on the paragraph 😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        Thank you so much!

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      20. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Of course! I fact right now I will myself write a great review!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Exactly.

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  47. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m so sorry if that question annoyed you, sometimes i forget we don’t have all the answer idk why i forgot. 😅

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  48. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    ok I just wrote a great review hopefully you guys can see it!

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      Thank you so much, Sarah. It means a lot to us,

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        sarah1997

        Of c anything I can do to help you guys let me know also my review might come 2 times via one i submitted the first one I couldn’t find it so i submitted it again thinking I forgot to submit it the first time but really it was just on review 😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, Amazon reviews them before we see them. 😁

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        sarah1997

        Haha I realized that after I sent the 2nd review 😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        We’ve seen it. Thank you so much, we appreciate your support very much.

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        sarah1997

        Wow they reviewed it fast hehe yay but glad you guys did!

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  49. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    in the review I did mention the Avias so you are warned now 😂

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    interesting-case

    Does anyone know what drugs Richard took besides cocaine? I read somewhere he took trenbolone.

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      sarah1997

      I only know that he took marijuana and cocaine, then there were vitamins to help him gain weight but those aren’t drugs.

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      He seems to have taken lsd, pcp, coccaine, weed and also “speedballs”.
      I hadn’t come across trenbolone before, isn’t that a steroid?

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        interesting-case

        Yeah I read somewhere that they found trenbolone in his possession and that it was tren that attributed to his chiseled facial structure. It’s crazy that he took PCP. No wonder he suffered psychosis.

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        I must admit I have never seen that in a list of his possessions. Where did you read that? I’d be interested to see it.

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        interesting-case

        I’ll see if I can find where I read it. It was just an anecdote.

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        Ok, thanks.

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