Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

The book is out! You can buy the ebook in the following links:

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USA
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It should be on all of Amazon worldwide.

And the paperback is here (although they might still be unavailable in some countries – check back in a few days. They can take a while to show up!)

UK
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Germany
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Spain
USA
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We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

VenningB

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m not very familiar with speedballs and Isd or pcp drugs but what kind of drug are those? First time I’ve ever heard of these drugs

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      LSD (acid) is a psychedelic drug, no wonder he had hallucinations. PCP is sometimes called Angel Dust, and again it’s mind altering, and speedballs are a mix, sometimes cocaine mixed with heroin, morphine or fentanyl. Nasty stuff.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh jeez that’s not good stuff to take at all! I remember in one letter that Richard wrote he took soemthing I forgot which drug then said it’s bad for the Brain. I can’t believe his family thought him how to properly get High and drugs poor guys this is really sad. And once he was arrested his brain and body must have changed badly cuz of that along withdrawal of drugs he’s taken!

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      2. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        It takes a lot of self-hate to consume those drugs in the quantity he did. Im surprised he even lived that long.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, so am I.

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I’d definitely have a heart attack taking that shit!

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  2. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m guessing he really very much had low self esteem compared to what the media has shown and said about him

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    1. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      Why should that have to do with self esteem? You can like yourself and at the same time you can realize that others don’t /wouldn’t like you if you are just yourself. That could just be the f*cking truth. You can believe that you deserve everything and you can still be aware, that you won’t get it. I’d say it was more that he wasn’t really able to work on long term goals, or to set long term goals. He usually preferred quick “solutions”. Stealing instead of working, drugs as a quick relief or a quick way to feel “high” (happy) or to intensify feelings, always the shortcuts instead of ways that require work. Of course that didn’t work to well and put him into trouble. But I don’t see any connection with self esteem. Self esteem doesn’t teach you how to work.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Hmm interesting, also he never really had at all any good role models in his life they were just teaching him bad things putting awful things in. His mind you can obviously tell no one truly tried to help him the right way of life and with poverty abusive family and all of them suffering from mental health problems it’s tough, Ik his sister took him in but still she couldn’t do anything cuz of her health, he was basically unaware of what he should have done in life.

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      2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Yes, exactly, all these things. Circumstances. He saw how his parents were absent all the time because of their work, that they had health problems and were stressed etc. and still didn’t have much money. Then on the other hand his brothers showed him an easier way to get the things that you want. His sister took him in, yes, but she smoked a lot of weed too, if I remember it correctly. Wasn’t their house known as the party house of the street? There were probably other people somewhere around him that he could have chosen as role models, but the people who were the closest to him, in one way or another struggled themselves.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yup exactly I agree, he truly had no one really good around him! It’s so sad some people are so fortunate to have good support but then Richard never did ever! It’s So sad, I hate when people compare their lives with his!

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  3. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    the party house I think was his brother Robert’s house if I’m correct?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      It was Rosa’s. Her ex husband Gilbert Flores lived next door and moved into the “party house.” Another brother, I think Nacho (I should know but forget!) said all she and Richard did was lay around smoking weed all day in a haze.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        ahh ok gotcha thanks for the clear up! Did no one not even one member of his family ever try to stop them all from doing drugs?

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I don’t think it’s something that can be stopped easily. The parents lost control of them at young ages.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        True, it angers me that the 2 brothers were teaching him all these bad things especially drugs like I don’t get what the brothers where trying to accomplish by doing so then introducing him to a criminal that part seems very suspicious to me maybe it’s not but idk it just seems that what to me, also I wish someone was there to look out for Richard properly sadly his parents weren’t around as much and so many factors played too it’s really so sad idk why they had so many kids in their situation I wish they worked on their health first before brings kids, you can tell sadly non of them had proper guidance at all breaks my heart

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  4. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    you guys we are at our 4 page with over 700 comments about this case!!! Wooow amazing 🤩

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  5. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    You’ve written this book in such an excellent and cohesive way. As I’ve mentioned before, English is not my mother’s first language, and she still sometimes struggles with reading complex material. Recently, she started reading the book and commented on how accessible it is, even for someone unfamiliar with the case or who doesn’t speak English fluently. She doesn’t know much about Richard’s case and isn’t generally interested in true crime, but the way the book is written drew her in. It’s engaging, informative, and, most importantly, respectful to the victims, Richard, and others who were impacted by the NS case. You all should be very proud of this work. Once my mother finishes reading, we’re planning to write reviews together.

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Thanks! I tried to break it down into loads of little sections because it’s so dense. Planning the structure took a while. I’m glad it’s accessible to those whose first language isn’t English. It has also sold in European countries which is cool. I really want people who know very little about the case to pick it up.

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  6. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    yes I agree with everything vivi has just said! The best thing about this book is it’s very truthful not a fantasy like Carlos and others, as someone who’s struggling with a minor learning disability sadly, this book was very easy to read and understand there’s so many new information and lots of details so one would think it’s overwhelming but once you read the book it really isn’t at all overwhelming! The section part was very smart idea it break down the parts and cases so easily. And as vivi said you indeed should be very proud of this book and blog! I mean look at this blog and look what you’ve accomplished by doing it?! You brought people together who believe and think a lot about this case where we can share our thoughts and ideas without betting bullied etc… for it even though you knew the risks and showed bravery doing so! So a round of applause 👏🏻 for you 3!

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  7. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    do you any of you guys know what they have of Richard’s in that museum?

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  8. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Hi…do you have some response .and reaction to the book by now ? I hope so and keep my fingers crossed ! I made a Pause reading right now …but I strangely can not stop thinking about Richard and his lifestory . Its so awful that they neglected the psychic condition he was in. ..When captured he had lost 12 teeth already …this alone is a proof that he really was not really very sane.I wonder what they thought about his general condition..But I guess they were all very upset and..happy to have caught him..The whole case is full of …Unprofessionell happenings ..

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Hello! Which country did you review from, Germany? Sometimes the reviews take a while to show. which one is yours?

      Yeah it’s sad, it seems that he had loads of teeth extracted in 1985. He must have been in pain, although he denied it. Maybe the cocaine helped to numb the pain in his mouth.

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    2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      The bad teeth and general bad condition are unfortunately pretty “normal” for drug addicts. And I guess there were a lot of drug addicts in LA and SF. Cops etc had to do with them all the time. I think that’s why they didn’t really think much about it, he was just another of those drug addicts to them. Btw. I can’t continue reading right now either. I work night shifts for 3 weeks and somehow I can’t read after my night shift. And before I go to work there are always so many things to do. But I hope for tonight. 🙂

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I remember a news article in the Herald Examiner about the teeth and an “expert” was called in who guessed the Night Stalker was an addict from his teeth. People act like his teeth were unique to him but half of Skid Row probably had similar problems. His friends the Greggs ended up with no teeth at all.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yeah, I imagine there were hundreds of addicts with appalling teeth in and around the vicinity. I don’t think even as a child he saw a dentist on a regular basis, and no one seemed to check whether he was brushing or not.
        It’s telling that in 85 he was trying to get it sorted out.

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      3. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , I see many heavily addicted people over here .hanging around at certain places ….people get used to that ..me too somehow , I must admit ..Some of them look very ill etc. But …in his case ..12 teeth lacking and the rest rotting away just so bad….and he was still a good runner ..when he got chased along that freeway….! But in general he obviusly was in quite a desperate condition…Not healthy at all.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I see it too, and I don’t live in a city.

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      5. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        I had to do with drug addicts in the 1990s. I tried to help one of them. It didn’t end well. They need professional help and they have to be ready to accept it. However, I have seen quite a lot during that time and bad or missing teeth were very common. Same with hepatitis, HIV, abscess etc. It’s like another world with it’s very own “normal”. They have their own priorities (drugs and money of course), their own nutrition (like yoghurt and desserts, cereals with milk or chocolate milk, also bc.of the bad teeth), their own values or ethics (regarding sharing, lending/borrowing money, stealing, lying, helping each other etc.) Death is always close, you hear regularly that someone you knew had died etc. And somehow you just deal with all that, bc you have to.

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      6. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Sounds like the same stuff Richard ate. I’m sure he was headed for an overdose…

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      7. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        You never know.. Drug addiction is really unpredictable. Maybe he would have found a way out. Or maybe he would have joined the Club 27. Maybe his arrest saved his live in 1985 and then took it 28 years later.

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I have often thought that, paradoxically, his arrest and incarceration probably extended his life.

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      9. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I completely agree with you. It must have been incredibly difficult to watch someone you care about spiral into addiction, using drugs and other substances as a way to cope with their problems. It’s heartbreaking because overcoming addiction requires immense strength, and these substances are designed to be highly addictive, making it extremely challenging to break free.

        As much as we want to help, there’s only so much we can do. People, especially those who are stubborn like Richard, often choose the path of least resistance, even if it’s one that leads them closer to self-destruction. It’s frustrating because we can try to be supportive and hold them accountable, but ultimately, the decision to change and take control of their life has to come from them. No matter how much we want it for them, they have to want it for themselves.

        I truly believe that if Richard had a stable male role model or even a responsible guardian in general, his life might have taken a very different path. The lack of proper guidance and mentorship left him vulnerable to negative influences and destructive choices. No matter how much some of his so-called friends and family members try to shift the blame, they played a significant role in where he ended up. They didn’t just passively stand by—they actively involved him in a life of drugs and crime, fully aware of the dangers and risks that came with those decisions.

        It’s one thing to make mistakes yourself, but to knowingly lead someone else down a harmful path, especially someone as impressionable as Richard was at the time, shows a deep neglect of responsibility. Despite any excuses they may offer, they were complicit in his downfall, and their actions (or lack thereof) contributed to the tragedy of his life.

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      10. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        I don’t blame the family either. I agree that they were not just passive bystanders, but actively involved him in dubious activities or just neglected him or took their frustration out on him. But I believe that they were also trapped in the same jungle of circumstances. Someone probably involved them in a life of drugs and crime before. And about Richards father we know that he suffered heavy physical abuse during his childhood. They just passed it on to Richard. Yes, they were aware of the risks and dangers, but I don’t think that they were fully aware of what they were doing and what effects it might have on Richard.. It was just their life and they weren’t able to acknowledge that what they were doing was far away from being ok. They would have had to stop and change their own lifes and that would probably have been to difficult for them. It was easier to downplay it. There are just strange mechanisms working that are hard to understand when you’re not in the same situation. Should they take responsibility for their deeds and decisions? Of course they should, as everyone should take responsibility for himself. Would I blame them for anything? No. Because I know how stupid we can be sometimes. And would it help to blame anyone? Probably not.

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  9. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    And yes , I think Richard always wanted to go the quickest and easiest way to solve his problems . Long term work or so ..He never learned to be Disziplined enough to work for a longer period. He worked with hiy brother Joseph at a meat factory but Richard left after a short time…He didnt see himself as a ‘low performer ‘ it seems , which I csn fully understand ! He was nt equipped for this complicated and tiring and demanding life at all.

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    1. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      I really can’t imagine him in a job at a meat factory. But I always wondered why he apparently never tried to get a job that had to do with music. Like a roady or just in a record store or in a bar where they play rock music or anything like that.

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        A roadie would have been a good job for him. Getting to be adjacent to the rock scene, plus roadies get free cocaine that trickles down from the stars lol

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        More drugs..

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      3. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        No septum left to speak of by 1990

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      4. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        On the other hand… he probably would have wanted to be the rock star, not the roadie. Without ever having practised an instrument of course.

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        They turned him into a “rock star killer”. His work ethic was non existent and yet his parents clearly worked hard. Their offspring (at least the male ones) did not, and could not.
        Something went terribly wrong in that family.

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  10. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes GERMSNY..! ..When a young man starts loosing one tooth after the other there is some Drama going on . ..And caught with 12 teeth lacking is already a real trajedy . I can not imagine …Maybe he took more drugs in order to forget about that and maybe hr was in pain , yes. Awful awful awful ..!

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  11. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    All of us should try to make this whole case and his biografie more well known.so thats not so easy for Netflix and Co. to act in that Yellow press style any further …

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  12. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I agree that we should all get Richard’s truth out there and well known but the thing is not everyone will listen to any of us they will constantly call us groupies harass us, ofc I’m not giving up I’m always gonna defend Richard but at the same time people have already their minds made up so it’s so hard! It’s awesome that this book is getting very good reviews I’ve been reading them!

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  13. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    WOW . Where can I find those reviews?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      On the Amazon page it shows worldwide reviews. Some take a while to show and appear days later.

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      1. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        I read the reviews that are published so far and the response is great! 👍🏻

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, we’re amazed and so please. Thank you, thank you, to everyone who left them.

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  14. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    That makes my day ! This book is so well structered and logical and often while reading I m aware of you 3 writers having been so accurate and thoughtful .Something like that is sooo rare !

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      ~ Jay ~

      Venning gets the credit for structure. We discussed how so many readers skipped over the trial section in Carlo’s book because they found it “boring”. In reality, that is the only part of his book with any value.
      Venning plotted it logically so that it wouldn’t be so easy to skip the vital trial info.
      I am so glad you picked up on that.

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        No one is getting away with avoiding the trial here 🙂🙂🙂

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        And rightly so. Hahaha!

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        interesting-case

        Alright then, no skipping 😂 Clever! I can’t wait for my book. It’s been a long delay but hopefully next week.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Fingers crossed, can’t believe it’s taking so long.
        As for Carlo’s book, even he left some breadcrumbs of doubt for people, and we couldn’t believe how many were skipping it because he had moved on from the gratuitous murder section. A different approach was needed.

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  15. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Your book is way better it’s more detailed and structured well and you can tell alot of work has been put into it

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      ~ Jay ~

      Thank you, Sarah.

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        sarah1997

        No! It should be us thanking you guys! I mean look at this look at what you 3 have done! Look at what you 3 have brought to the world! The amount of work and dedication and investigation you guys have done and allowing people around the world to share how they feel! You don’t see that everyday at all until your blog came! You deserve good reviews and support and love and so much more! This case it’s crazy and annoying especially those damn AVIAS yes I brought that name back hehe! And for others whom are closed minded and siding with GILY boy they tbh have nothing better to do and aren’t worth it at all! I hate that you guys and all of us are getting hate but don’t let that stop you from doing what you’re doing! We need the world to hear all this THE TRUTH!

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  16. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I was Netflix and found out they deleted the night stalker series, idk if you guys have it still but the Canadian one gone!

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      interesting-case

      It might have reached it’s limit for broadcasting rights in Canada. It’s still available in Europe.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        you’re right hmmm well all g I hated that series anyways I don’t like liars 😝

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      ~ Jay ~

      It’s still available here, or it was.. I haven’t looked but I will check.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Cuz wasn’t it just added on January 2024 on Netflix if I’m correct? It would have stayed on few years but for me it’s gone! I wanted to read the book and watch it so I can see all the misleading and false information on the series and read the real stuff from your book!

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think it came out in 2021.

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh really? Ok then maybe that’s why it left Netflix, also do you guys know anything about this one female idk if she’s a groupie but her name is Bernadette?

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Bernadette is one of the original groupies.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ohhh ok gotcha! Do you Remember in the part of the series on Netflix when they talking about groupies and this old women with glasses insulting them do you remember her name I forgot it?

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I don’t remember her name but I know who you mean.

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      7. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        It’s totally ok! My guess is she’s one of Gil’s “Friends”

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      8. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        LMAO she called them the dumbest b*tches ever. I honestly have mixed feelings about Richard’s groupies from back then. On one hand, you had people like Bernadette, who believed in his innocence and even tried to convert him to Christianity, genuinely thinking they were helping him in some way. But then there were others like “Cupcake Cindy” and that terrifying Christine Lee—she actually slapped a 16-year-old fan of his on a talk show. It was wild.

        And now, the groupies today are even more disturbing. Many of them don’t even care about the facts of the case—they’ve turned him into this twisted macabre celebrity sex symbol. Anyone who dares challenge that perception gets attacked or discredited by his most die-hard fans. It’s a strange and unsettling form of obsession, more about fantasy than any real understanding of the man or the crimes he was accused of.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        If i remember correctly Richard even said “I’m not a sec symbol “ and yes I totally agree with you!

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      10. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Absolutely. Most of them (today’s groupies) are in a “parasocial” relationship with the idea of him; he’s a fantasy, and can be anything they want him to be. Lots of them are in love with the idea of the ultimate psycho bad boy.

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      Vivi

      Personally, I don’t think you’re missing much. The documentary barely focused on the victims or the details of the case as much as it should have; instead, it placed a heavy emphasis on the police officers. I’ve come across several articles criticizing it for glorifying the cops too much, and I completely agree with that assessment.

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        sarah1997

        I’ve seen it only once and thank god for that! But on really they had that assessment good! Those cops need to be exposed

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    Isabella 99

    I ve just read a review by an Italian reader …and it was so good , so extremely well written , so intense and so intelligenty expressiv..I had tears in my eyes. I cannot describe it better as my English is not sufficient for that but you all can read it. ..! So good !

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      We saw it, too. Whoever that is we cannot thank them enough. They took so much time to say all that they did.

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      1. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Of course I want to write a review too, but now that I have seen all the other reviews and how long, enthusiastic and well written they are, I don’t know if I still dare to write one. 😮

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        ~ Jay ~

        We would be happy to receive a review from you and you are just as articulate in all your comments to us here.

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      3. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Thank you! I’ll try and I already know what I want to say. But not yet how to say it. Or should I write it in German? However, first I want to finish the book. I’m at part 15 now and will continue reading tonight.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        You’ve always brought some good contributions here, thank you for your support.

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      5. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Thank you! And : Thank YOU (3)! You know how much I appreciate your work. You did exactly what I’d have liked to do 6 years ago, but wasn’t capable of.

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        You did a heck of a lot of research and work on this case, I am sad they took down your Tumblr.

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      7. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        They deleted all accounts dedicated to Richard. First the groupies, but then also the informative ones. And now? A few days ago I was on tumblr and the first thing I see is a d*ck pic, I mean literally p*rn. and it wasn’t the only one. Idk what happened to their user guidelines . They don’t matter anymore, apparently.

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        They’re still removing them, but as you say, porn is allowed.

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      9. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Write it in German! I am learning German. I like trying to read it … (I’m really rubbish at it. Toddler level!)

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      10. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Maybe my fellow Germans would appreciate it, since I’ll write it on amazon.de of course. But I I don’t know yet.. regarding Richard somehow I feel in English, bc everything I saw, heard or read about him was in English.

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      11. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Someone recently wrote one in Italian. It’s fine because I just hit the translate button.

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    2. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      hey! Your English is amazing don’t worry! English is my first language and yet I struggle with it so don’t worry! 😂

      yes the reviews are so positive and amazing! I love those reviews!! I feel like in order to help these 3 out we should all write a review! But no pressure! You’re all helping them out either way whether you write a review or not so don’t worry!

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  18. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    This Review from Italy is on the point for 100 % ! It describes the whole Farce of this case with great preciseness and that Richard in the end lost his life in such a way as untreated lonely prisoner in St.Quentin.

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    sarah1997

    omg I just read that long review from the Italian, and omg it’s beautiful 🤩 I Almost cried! This review is amazing and I hope people read all of them! Especially this one!!

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      Yes, we were so touched by it.

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        sarah1997

        See! This book is getting heard All around the world! And few people are now opening their eyes! They after your book they will see Color’s instead of darkness!

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  20. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes …we all will write reviews ..! The more distance one gets to this whole Story the more it makes you realize the pure horror of it ! Don t worry about the stupid haters , Sarah…Just ignore them ..they are most boooring ..!

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      hahaha I’m ignoring them haven’t been hated recently cuz I stoped commenting on YouTube and deleted some of my comments hehe! Plus sometimes I like a little old good fight 😉.

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      I really appreciate the reviews so much! Thanks!

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        sarah1997

        I’ve never read a book before that’s structured the way you guys did it! And after reading all these comments I too realized about the trial stuff haha good job making it that way! You guys have written other books too if I’m correct?

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        Venning has. KayCee and I have only written for the blog before.

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        sarah1997

        Oh cool! I’m curious to read more of her books now! What are the names of the books?

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        She’s written fiction under “Venning Bellasis” and another non fiction under “Emily Zola”.

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        sarah1997

        Sweet awesome! I’ll give it a go after I finish with your book first. It’s so amalgam that you guys can write so well! I wish I was able to do that I love writing!

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        Thank you. I am happy you enjoy what we do.

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        sarah1997

        I do indeed enjoy your works very much and I’m proud to be a supporter of you guys! I definitely believe no one can do a better blog about this case than you guys!

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    sarah1997

    omg you guys have 5/5 stars from all the reviews it’s only 6 people including myself but still amazing!!!!!!!!! 🤩 I’m so excited even tho it’s not my book but doesn’t matter I’m excited for you 3!!!!

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  22. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Richard wasn’t ever formally diagnosed as a sociopath right?

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      That’s correct.

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        Vivi

        People don’t realize just how harmful it is to mislabel someone with a disorder or illness. When that happens, the individual is often reduced to being viewed solely through the lens of that diagnosis, overshadowing everything else about them. It strips them of their humanity and complexity, turning them into a caricature defined by a single trait. Beyond the damage it does to the person being misjudged, it also reinforces dangerous stereotypes about those who genuinely suffer from these conditions, further stigmatizing mental health issues. Mislabeling not only distorts the public’s understanding but perpetuates fear and misunderstanding about these disorders. I’ve known people with sociopathy and psychopathy, and these are incredibly challenging disorders to treat. On the surface, they often come across as cold and manipulative, but beneath that exterior, many experience a deep sense of sadness and isolation because they struggle to connect with others in the way they wish they could. While there are individuals with these disorders who do terrible things, I can’t help but feel for them, as society’s constantly evolving negative perceptions often prevent them from seeking help or being honest about their struggles and connecting them with a “serial killer” doesn’t help either. This stigma only makes it harder for them to get the support they need.

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        There have been so many labels thrown around.
        I was reminded recently (when the new footage came out) of how all the ‘experts’ on YouTube were doing their body language analysis based on heavily edited and manipulated footage.

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        Vivi

        It just makes me lose respect and trust in their credibility. You don’t need to be a genius to notice that there’s footage missing from these so-called “interviews”—there are obvious jump cuts, and his responses and body language don’t align at all with the questions that are being asked.

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        They see what they want to see. It’s all a croc of shit, really.

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        Vivi

        I acknowledge that Richard was a bit socially awkward generally,which might explain some of his “odd” social behaviors. But when I watched the few interviews that were available something always felt missing.

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        I wonder how the perceived experts expect someone to act, when they’ve been in solitary confinement for years? I imagine even for a person without Richard’s cognitive deficiencies, after years locked up in a small cage there would be a marked deterioration in the ability to appear ‘normal’.

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      7. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        I read this ^ in Richard’s voice “that is correct”.

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        Hahaha!

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        interesting-case

        The body language experts are hilarious!! 🤣 One of them said Richard displays psychopathy because his right or left eye was asymmetrical to the other.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I saw that! Lol
        They even split screen his face to ‘demonstrate’.

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        VenningB

        I remember that one!

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        Vivi

        If facial asymmetry is an indicator of psychopathy. Then I guess almost 90% of people across the world are psychopaths. WTF kind of a analysis is that.

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  23. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I hate that they analyze him based off of heavily edited videos so wrong! And people truly believe them like gospels omg it’s crazy

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    sarah1997

    I agree! How come no one notices these flaws on the videos only us? They really as Jay said take what they want to see! It’s just messed up! He was suffering from multiple things as someone that sufferes from mental health problems myself this really makes me made

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  25. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    is it really possible to determine someone’s diagnose based on their behaviour? Cuz I have no idk if I believe in that stuff I feel like it’s purely subjective!

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    1. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Hahahha the experts on You Tube….really hilarious comments. You read one about ” his sexy hooliganism in the courtroom ..and his whole devil like appearance is so sexy ..” ..OMG ! Hey Interesting case and Yes I m evil.please write reviews , I know how good you are in writing ! I will write one too but right now I havn t got time. Maybe I write in German…..yesterday night I had a Quick glance into the book it was at random.. And I saw the foto with the ” Heroes from Hubbard Street” in Sept.3rd 85 …and I couldn t believe it.,as allways when I see it…OMG.

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        sarah1997

        Hahaha those experts on YouTube make me laugh so hard they act like they know everything and we are the dumb one and then those comments on YouTube again what a laughable joke! I just don’t understand how people are so blinded about this case I know why but still it’s. Crazy! I am literally rn watching a true crime case of the watts family murder so sad case btw and they have a full out video of the interrogation and him confessing etc…. But oh! You claim Richard confessed but where’s the recording then of that? It’s like Richard said “ it’s easier to convict a man with words than with evidence” he’s right about that cuz I mean everyone believed the words of the cops and detectives when they didn’t understand the missing parts cuz they never were shown it cuz they were probably like oh they cops they can’t lie! Uh ya no cops can most definitely lie! Aka GILY BOY!

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        VenningB

        Richard was correct. Did I put that quote in the book? I think so and Jay definitely put it on the blog somewhere. It’s so convenient that there are no recordings of the confessions, we just have Carrillo and Carlo’s claims.

        I saw another YT video of Gil where he’s saying about the Zazzara case, “he didn’t tell me that. That’s one he confessed to Carlo.” Lol Carlo hasn’t got proof either.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Exactly I’ve never ever seen any true crime cases where there aren’t any recordings, I feel like Gil will continue to claim all this and more but he won’t need proof cuz oh he’s a cop he knows people will believe him if he makes his claim so dramatic and interesting then the thing the word INTERESTING that’s how they get people’s attention more! Then people have the audacity to say why we question Gil?! Ummm we have many reason as to why we do!

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        sarah1997

        lol I wouldn’t be surprised if Carlo and Gil were working together I always felt like they were. I’ll check the book if you wrote that quote I feel like you did but I can check again!

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        sarah1997

        I just checked the book again and yes you did write that quote indeed in there!

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        interesting-case

        Hey Isabella. I will write a review as soon as I get my book and finish. It was delayed with 3 weeks. It will take me some time.

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  26. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I completely agree with you Vivi on that long comment about his family bringing him to a life of drugs and crimes, I truly blame his family doesn’t matter what others say to me but it’s completely their fault to allow Richard to get to this point! He was a young boy look at people whom he thought nothing bad of thinking they can do no wrong or hurt him as a role model, but not was Richard wrong about that! Lots of people are saying they don’t blame the family but I think they are wrong I most definitely blame the family, no guidance at all and it shows! No love at all! Brothers reaching their younger brother very and things what do you expect the poor guy looked up to them as hero’s as every other little boy would! Peer pressure and El Paso at that time was crazy surrounded with sketchy people. His own brother introduced Richard to a criminal who could possibly be a suspect as if he’s training his brother to be a criminal. He has no one to help him by force stop what he was doing they don’t teach him anything good! What do you expect?! And with all the trauma he had poor guy again what do you expect after what he’s been through! And people compare their life with his! Like stop just stop!

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    Isabella 99

    Those body language experts….they have severe problems I think . . What all of them have in common is this feeling of importance and a sort of vain arrogance…!? They lean back in their seats and start showing off their pseudo knowledge …I m again sorry for Richard to be used as an Object once again. People have no mercy., no decency ? Everything is possible .

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      VenningB

      I don’t trust any of them anymore. They all sit there going, “this eye movement means this and that lip movement means that.” But all people are different.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        you know what pisses me off? When they call us especially you guys disrespectful when they are the ones whom are!

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        sarah1997

        listen venning, Jay & Kaycee! I’ve said this a lot but I want to say it again! YOU 3 ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG!!! If anyone is doing anything wrong it’s those haters and gily boy supporters! I don’t want you guys to ever give up this is a tough crazy annoying case that we are all talking about but like you said things needed to be said and I absolutely agree! Keep doing what you’re doing we all got your backs! Also I’m pretty sure Gil rewarded his followers with AVIA SHOES, “ if you follow me and believe my story I’ll reward you with avia shoes” ok typing this part made me laugh so much 😂

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      YesIAmEvil

      Yes, but whom did they analyze? For years they didn’t even find out whom he was quoting during his interview with Watkiss. At least nobody mentioned it. So they analyzed Shakespeare and Nietzsche and LaVey?

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        Exactly that. Lol
        It’s laughable, really.

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  28. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Hi Interesting case ..yes I ve read you are still waiting for youf book ! Take your time reading ..! I always seem to have to stop reading all this in order to get more distance because then I can think better .And ..the whole case and Richards life story does something with our own psyche.

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  29. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    does anyone know what they sold yo that museum of Richard’s?

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      https://thehauntedmuseum.com/

      This is Zach Bagans’ museum, he has Richard’s ashes box and toe tag. Not sure what else.

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        sarah1997

        Thanks so much JAY!!!!!!!

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        You’re welcome.
        He charges $43 for a ticket! Crazy.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Omg what! $43?! No way that’s insane Richard was seriously paying all those people’s bills that’s not cool at all what they did to Richard wtf omg this actually makes me mad! Would you guys ever visit that place?

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        There’s a lot more in there than just Richard, and we have discussed going (we’re in LA and Vegas later this year) but not sure we want to pay that.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        This is actually crazy the price they ask for I saw the site you just sent me and it said $204 for people 14+ and then $54 For something else I forgot lol but still that’s so ridiculous. Richard Poor guy is that all he was for then a man paying their bills!?

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        I find the idea of his ashes container very exploitative. Just horrible.

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        sarah1997

        I agree I feel the same way like seriously what is up with people?! That guy had mental health problems and was dealing with ALOT and suffering significantly and you guys somehow found this interesting and have a museum with his ashes box there? And they call you guys disrespectful?! I can fight them plz?!

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        Doreen sold that box to him, for whatever reason. Maybe she needed money, I don’t know.
        Doreen never gave interviews after he died, never sold her story, so perhaps she did what she had to do. I don’t like it, I find it distasteful and voyeuristic; I wish she’d kept it private.

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        sarah1997

        For whatever reason she did this she had no right to do that, idk what she could have gained by this maybe money yes! But still like why?! I thought she loved him! I wish she too kept it private

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  30. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    The book is bigger than I expected! Thank you guys! Now, time to do my homework…

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      It arrived, yay!!
      It’s a hefty volume, that’s for sure. Enjoy!

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      VenningB

      Ooh! Everyone has commented on it’s size!

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      sarah1997

      omg yay yay yay yay!!!! Happy as well it came! Now you don’t have to worry about spoilers 😂

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        interesting-case

        I must admit I felt a bit left out for a couple of weeks hehe.

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        You were always part of the discussion, and now you can catch up. Glad it’s arrived.

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        sarah1997

        No more feeling left out you were still part of this discussion as Jay mentioned book or no book doesn’t change anything about you being part of our discussion! But I’m so glad you got your book! #bestbookever!

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  31. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Venning and Jay and Kaycee round of applause for a job and blog and especially a book well done!!!!!! Amazing truly amazing!

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  32. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    there’s one thing about the book I’m very sad about 😢

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      Which bit?

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        sarah1997

        That I’m almost finished it 😭😂

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Haha!

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        sarah1997

        Haha scared ya there didn’t I? 😂 don’t you worry at all! This book is rated 100/10 by me!’ humans aren’t perfect but this book for sure is totally perfect! 🤩 but I’m sad I’m almost done reading tho 😢

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        You’ll have to start again. Lol

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        sarah1997

        Oh you bet I will! Like a circle finish then restart 😂

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    sarah1997

    interesting-case, listen don’t ever feel you are left out you are very much equally as important person and eveyone else here and you’re discussion etc…. Is as well! I’m so sorry if I’ve spoiled anything for you about the book! I’ve tried not to after you said it haha but don’t ever feel left out you’re welcome any any any time! So read that book now and enjoy it cuz it’s really an amazing book!!!!

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  34. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    I just finished writing my review on Amazon but I don’t quality for publishing it unless I first spend a minimum $50 on products first (under total of 12 months). Amazon is really giving me a hard time…

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      Really? I have never heard of that before and never had to do it, either.
      Anyone else ever come across this?
      That’s crazy!

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        interesting-case

        You must have spent $50 on Amazon.com, using a credit or debit card, in the past 12 months, to:

        • Create reviews (including star ratings)

        • Answer customer questions

        • Submit helpful votes

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        Ahh, OK. Seems a bit rude, stupid Amazon.

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        VenningB

        I hate that rule! On another book I wrote, a friend bought a load of shit just so she could leave a review! Don’t do what she did hahaa

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      4. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        No worries, I’ll buy a second copy of your book and drop it off at a public library and then publish my review in due time.

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        Oh wow, bless you.

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      6. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        no first time I heard about this too and same with me I never had to do that, that’s crazy!

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    sarah1997

    omg guys 890 comments haha!🤩🙈

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      Haha! At least a decent discussion can be had here.

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        sarah1997

        Exactly! Best thing about this blog is that lots of discussions can be made here I agree and no harassment!

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  36. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    how many people have your books now? I Remember last time you said 60! What about now?

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    Vivi

    I have a question regarding the process for defendants deemed legally incompetent to stand trial, particularly in cases like Richard’s, where mental health conditions play a significant role. If a defendant is found incompetent to stand trial due to mental health issues, what exactly happens next? Are they transferred to a psychiatric hospital for treatment, or are professionals brought into the jail to provide care? Additionally, how much time is typically allowed to pass before another competency hearing is held to determine if they are fit to stand trial? I apologize for asking so many questions I’m just curious (:

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      VenningB

      This is what I want to know but I couldn’t find any information on it. Sorry I can’t help!

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        sarah1997

        it’s so annoying that there’s only limited answers for Richard’s case compared to other cases where it’s so easy to find answers cuz nothing is hidden!

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      interesting-case

      I saw a very recent documentary about the question you are asking.. It’s called “Death row prisoners suffering from severe mental illness”. Maybe the answer you are looking for is in it.

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  38. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    information on Richard is so limited why?! They really want to hide a lot of things about Richard that they don’t want to public to know cuz it would make him look innocent and they want a guilty image on him!
    Someone made a collage of Richard’s lips omg 😆 what is up with these groupies!!!!

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  39. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    So, from doing some research, I found that in the 1980s and 1990s in San Francisco and Los Angeles counties, the following procedures were typically followed for defendants deemed incompetent to stand trial, there will be variances depending on the severity of the mental illnesses/disorders:

    -Defendants deemed incompetent were generally ordered to undergo treatment aimed at restoring competency.

    -Treatment often involved transferring the defendant to state psychiatric hospitals such as Patton State Hospital or Atascadero State Hospital in California for medication and therapy.

    -If hospitals were overwhelmed, some defendants received mental health services while remaining in jail.

    -Legal timelines prioritized restoring competency within two years, but federal guidelines allowed a four-month period to initially assess treatment effectiveness.

    -After treatment, a new competency hearing was held to determine if the defendant could now participate in their defense. If competency could not be restored, options included long-term treatment or civil commitment.

    -Defendants often faced extended waits for evaluations or transfers, leading to further mental health deterioration due to overcrowding or a lack of adequate psychiatric resources.

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      Vivi

      There are probably more legal specifics involved, but this information was surprisingly hard to come by despite many inmates people in prison/jails suffering from severe mental illness/disorders.

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      I think Richard was kept in SQ despite being found incompetent because it was too controversial. If he is incompetent in S.F., then he’s incompetent in L.A. which would fuck up the convictions. So it was all downplayed and the newspapers never reported on why his 2nd trial never went ahead. It was just buried.

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        Vivi

        That’s absolutely repulsive. I can barely put into words how angry and frustrated I am. The fact that something as critical as a defendant’s mental competency could be essentially swept under the rug for the sake of maintaining convictions is appalling. Even if Richard had been found legally incompetent in LA, it’s hard to imagine the system following through with the appropriate procedures, like transferring him to a psychiatric hospital. It’s infuriating that, despite legal requirements and protocols, people still fail to do their jobs and uphold basic justice. The media’s silence on why his second trial never happened only adds to the frustration—important details were just buried. How is this justice?

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        ~ Jay ~

        The media were (and still are) complicit.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, they definitely preferred to stay the trial indefinitely rather than have it go ahead and risk the LA convictions coming under scrutiny, which they undoubtedly would have. Far better to sweep the trial away and just say he murdered Peter Pan without having have the case put to the test.

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  40. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    it truly sickens me too

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  41. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    this shit has to stop! Not fair at all to Richard! This book has to change the minds of people!!! People need to give this book a chance and see the truth!!! When Richard said “I will be avenged” I truly believe your book will do that for him I have so much faith in your book! It just has too!

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  42. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m so sorry if I’m getting emotional I’m a very emotional person and what happened to Richard what they did to him was truly as Richard said railroading. I hate that this case wasn’t taken properly! Downplayed things and important things about Richard Just to make him look guilty?! That’s just so wrong! It really angers me it truly saddens me Richard has to deal with all this BS, I care about Richard and I want people to see what truly happened I really have so much faith in your blog and book and I hope people see it like us! Again I’m so sorry for getting emotional I just really care about Richard and people in his situation

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      csmutny06cae8b36d

      Yes, and unfortunately, the damage has already been done to his reputation, being branded a serial killer for the rest of your days,

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        sarah1997

        This is just so wrong!!! I hope Richard gets avenged! Justice for Richard, his family and the victims!

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    Vivi

    I recently heard that they are in the process of phasing out SQ’s death row. What do you guys think about that?

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      Yes, I read about this, too, and believe some death row prisoners have been moved to other facilities.

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      sarah1997

      like they are ban death row?

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        No, it’s a moratorium. The governor of California, Gavin Newsom, plans big changes at SQ. Those on death row are being moved out to other facilities, and according to the LA Times, it does not alter their sentences or convictions. The execution chamber has been dismantled, as has the gas chamber.

        https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-18/california-to-transer-san-quentin-death-row-prisoners-to-other-prisons-by-summer
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68558967

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        sarah1997

        70% of the income money they make goes to the victims, they get moved to other facilities but yet their sentence and convictions remain so either way they will die?

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      mysticpolicef616ca1b1a

      oui j’ai lu article la dessus. Je pense que c’est une excellente nouvelle.

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        Vous avez lu un article sur le livre ou voulez-vous dire que vous avez lu le livre ? Désolé, j’essaie de traduire. Je parle un peu français, mais ma compréhension de votre langue a besoin d’être renforcée par Google. 😆

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    sarah1997

    can I ask soemthing and dw if you don’t know the answer aha I’m just curious

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      ~ Jay ~

      Of course, what is it?

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Why are they doing not just to Richard but others? What really are they trying to gain from doing all this? Do they truly believe people will side with them and buy all this bs, I just don’t understand all this competition with the SFPD & LAPD like seriously why? For what?! To charge, pin and convict and please the name on a man or anyone who didn’t do the crime just to say oh look i caught a serial killer?! When they knew deep down that Richard wasn’t the right guy and that the real killer (s) still out there and made all the public panic and hyped up shit why all this nonsense? Reading this book and this blog and all these discussions we are having make leaves me with more questions wondering WHY?

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        VenningB

        I think most police were acting in good faith and following orders. They probably truly believed Ramirez was the Night Stalker because Salerno believed Carrillo and Salerno led the task force. They probably had no idea what the victims originally said until it all came out in court.

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        sarah1997

        Ahhh ok gotcha, it always comes down to Gil and Salerno ps I got the name right this time hehe

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        sarah1997

        Do you believe all the original suspect descriptions from the victims are still with them hair hidden from plain site?

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        What do you mean? Do you mean are the original descriptions on Plainsite? If so, then, yes, where we have a police report they are available for anyone to read.

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        sarah1997

        Yes the original description of the suspect said by the victims! Sorry I should have been clear. But ok good so people do have access to those then 😅

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      7. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        Yes, they are in the documents attached to the main petition. They’ve been in the public domain for years, but navigating through all the documents is time consuming and not many can be bothered.

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      8. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh wow, and you have read through all of them or at least most of them ya?

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      9. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
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        We’ve read through the whole lot over and over, nearly 1000 pages (including supporting documents). Then added our own research.
        Everything in the book has a footnote citing where we get info from, all the documents used are listed, as well as all other sources.

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        sarah1997

        Wow just wow amazing work! I truly admire you 3 very much Greta work!

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        The writing was on the wall for Richard from June of 85, since the traffic stop, and the discovery of the “Richard Mena” dental card. As for SF/LA rivalry, both wanted the accolade of catching the infamous Night Stalker; a police department is ranked on how many arrests/solved crimes it makes, so it was important for them to catch him. They grow “tunnel vision” and once fixed on an idea, rarely stray from the path they’ve decided on. Carrillo had decided in April that he was going after a serial killer, whether it made sense or not.

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      12. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Doesn’t make sense at all and a lot of potential suspects should have been investigated but yes I get what you mean but it isn’t right everything about this case leaves you with more questions and it just to me doesn’t add up at all! It’s just taking me to a very dark place, when you think you have an answer then that answer leaves you again with more questions it’s so frustrating to me. I can’t believe Gil had all those cops believe his lies and “official narrative” wrongful conviction and railroading it sure was!

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    Isabella 99

    Wow , I ve just read some of the older comments as well as the newer ones , and I m really amazed and touched as I noticed how much honest effort and interest and thoughtfulness and understanding and common sense comes together in Richard s case from all of us ! That s quite an experience !! And I m happy to be part of it. 🤗

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      It makes a nice change, doesn’t it? The whole point of this project was to BE able to talk sensibly about the case.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes

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      sarah1997

      I feel the same way! This blog was a true blessing and same with the book! I’m really truly happy and glad to be part of this discussion with all you amazing open minded people and intelligent people like yourselves. I hope we can always continue to discuss!

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    Isabella 99

    I ve read so much that I have forgotten what I wanted to ask ! LOL.

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  47. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Since I began researching Richard Ramirez’s case, several questions have been weighing on my mind. For instance, what should happen to individuals like Ted Bundy if death row didn’t exist, and execution wasn’t an option? Would a life sentence without the possibility of parole be the appropriate alternative?

    If our prison and jail systems were genuinely effective, could such individuals potentially be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society? I’ve previously mentioned that executing death row inmates might be akin to taking the life of an unwilling participant, which raises serious moral concerns about whether it constitutes murder. The justice system is deeply flawed and often corrupt, leading to wrongful convictions where individuals have either died in prison or been executed despite not having been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    I want to be clear that I am not in any way excusing or empathizing with the actions of people like Bundy. However, the frequent mistakes and injustices in the American legal system make me question whether the finality of execution is truly the most just course of action. I have been reflecting on this issue extensively and have come to advocate for preserving human life while still seeking justice for victims.

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      In this country that is exactly what happens to them; life in prison without hope of parole.

      Look at the Scott Peterson case (currently being fought by the Innocence Project) he had his death sentence commuted to LWHOP because the jury process was found to be flawed and not done correctly. It was something to do with the vetting of potentials and their views on the death penalty. Peterson’s lawyers have asked the Supreme Court to release 12 pieces of evidence for DNA testing, and have been refused. Only one item is getting retested, because the judge has said after 20 years in storage, the evidence in question is not in a fit state, and other items are no longer in police custody. I have no idea about his guilt or innocence, and I only know the basics of this case, but on hearing this news over the summer, I was struck by the double standards here.

      Because of all the wrongful convictions in the past, I am not an advocate for the death penalty, due to malpractice from too many departments. One mistake is one too many, and in truth, keeping them on death row is more expensive anyway. People must be punished, and victims must have justice, but when the justice system itself is seriously deficient, execution is not the way.

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        Vivi

        I completely agree with you. I’ve been delving into the Carlos DeLuna case, which serves as a prime example of why execution is not the most just form of punishment—especially when guilt isn’t proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

        I understand that when people hear about the horrific nature of certain crimes—murders, torture, and assaults—their immediate reaction is to want something equally terrible done to the perpetrator. There’s a natural, visceral instinct for vengeance. However, in a courtroom, emotions should not cloud the judgment of justice. The law must be objective, fair, and measured, no matter how horrifying the crime may be. When emotions take over, it increases the risk of irreversible mistakes.

        As you mentioned, even a single error in judgment is too many. Wrongful executions not only strip away the life of someone who might be innocent but also fail to provide real justice or closure for the victims and their families. Instead of ensuring justice, it deepens the tragedy. If we can’t guarantee a flawless system, then how can we justify the finality of execution? There has to be a better way, one that honors both the victims and the principle of true justice.

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        ~ Jay ~

        What happened to Carlo DeLuna is an absolute tragedy, so upsetting, and it made me so angry!
        I can understand vengeance, but the law has to do better. It must do better.
        It must be above public opinion, politics and the media.

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      interesting-case

      The death penalty is a very difficult ethical subject. I don’t know where I stand on it. I earlier read about what can go wrong during an execution as the methods don’t always execute as expected causing inhumane harm (dying slower than expected, drawn out or being conscious). There have undoubtedly been hundreds of innocent people sentenced to death throughout history and that is of course horrific. Do I sometimes think death penalty is justified? Yes. But it’s difficult. Sometimes the death penalty is an easy exit for a monster like Bundy. But I think some inmates that are repeat offenders who show no remorse and have been known to break from prison in the past and who refuse to comply and are extremely dangerous to the public, sometimes should get executed when assessing the risk-benefit factor for the sake of society as a whole. I think it was the right move to execute Bundy because he was a repeat offender and had a history of breaking from prison.

      I have delved into the new maximum high security prison CECOT in El Salvador and those inmates are doing life there because the death penalty is not legal (?) in their country. I guess that’s one alternative to the death penalty. It’s escape-proof and they can never leave, thus not causing society anymore harm.

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        I understand exactly what you mean, it’s a terrible solution. I also understand why there’s a need for the appeals process, especially in cases that seem unsafe.
        The prison you mentioned, is that the one they’ve done a recent documentary on?

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        interesting-case

        Yes, there have been many documentaries made about CECOT and it’s an absolutely brutal place to be. They use literal torture tactics where they keep bright lights on 24/7 to throw off the inmates circadian rhythm. I still think the prison is justifiable considering the nature of their crimes. The new prison is the end product of their repeat offenses.

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        I agree with you. I will have a look at the documentary.

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      4. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Regarding the death penalty my approach would be not from the question of justice, but from the question of the “message”. You can’t say that killing is wrong and then you go and kill people yourself. Beside that you say it is in the name of the people, but that’s not even true. In a death penalty case you can’t become a jury member if you are generally against the death penalty. That means you shouldn’t say “in the name of the people” but (depending on the percentage that voted for or against keeping the death penalty in the respective state) “in the name of half of the people” or “in the name of 60%of the people” etc. But of course that wouldn’t sound so good. Then it’s not “the people” who kills the inmate, but there is one special person who has to push the button, to give the injection etc. So we create a killer to take the life of another killer. And to execute someone does have effects on the person who has start the process of the execution. There are several interviews with correction officers who had to do that and were traumatized by their task. Does anyone think of them? For me as a German it’s just no question. I don’t want to kill anyone, so I don’t want either anyone to get killed in my name. And I’m not even a Christian and don’t need to follow God’s rules not to kill anyone. (How can a state as christian as the US just ignore that?) Plus of course the risk to kill an innocent person. Plus the fact that the appeals regularly take years and people of course change over the years in prison. So you might end up to kill someone who has murdered someone when he was 18 or 20 years old, but is not dangerous anymore when his appeal process ended and he is maybe in his 40s or 50s and just isn’t a troubled teenager with drug problems anymore. However, since we don’t have the death penalty and anyway our homicide rate is not too high, it’s also proven that it’s possible to handle murder cases without killing the perpetrators. We have something called “Sicherungsverwahrung” (preventive detention) instead. People get their sentence, which is meant as punishment and means the stay in a normal prison. But if they are considered permanently dangerous (like rapists or child molesters for example) then they have to stay in preventive detention until they are not considered dangerous anymore or until they die. But generally everyone has the chance to get released from prison/preventive detention. (Sometimes maybe only because that person has become to old and weak to hurt anyone.) They can ask for a new evaluation every couple of years. However, preventive detention is not considered a punishment and although it is either in a separate part of a prison or in a prison like facility for safety reasons, inmates have more rights and their cells are a bit more like normal apartments. Still hard I guess, but I think there is no really good solution. That’s why prevention is really important too. Less troubled people, less crimes.

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        I agree with every point you make here, and I have seen those interviews (and read some) which show how some of today’s executioners suffer PTSD, after all, murder in the name of “justice” is still murder and the death certificate states “homicide by state” or something like that. Killing is killing… (Now where have we heard that..? lol)
        Horribly, some facilities do not train their executioners very well, hence so many botched executions.

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        I don’t know if you can get this in Germany, but just in case you can, I thought you might like this. It’s a radio show about death row, it is really interesting, and quite sad, especially as Ivan Cantu was interviewed for this, and he’s now been executed.
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gjb2wf

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        YesIAmEvil

        Yes, I can get it. And it sounds interesting too. But it can take me a while to listen to it. My night shifts, you know. And I couldn’t listen to sth like that in the morning, that feels somehow weird. And as you know I have a book to read too. 🙂 Maybe I’ll find some time this weekend.

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  48. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Interesting case , I love your comment about ” asylum ” etc. Great comment ..LOL !!! LOL.

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  49. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    he’s the Carlo Deluna case was indeed very sad and it too made me angry,

    Richard/Deluna:

    1. Poor
    2. minors
    3. Judged based on biasness
    4. clowns of a lawyers especially Richard’s lawyers
    5. poor weak evidence

    this all is crazy and should stop! Richard, Deluna, and there’s someone else you guys mentioned before but I forgot the name, all of these men had unfair trial this has to stop!!

    plz correct me if I’m wrong and add on to the list if I forget anything!

    also plz plz don’t judge me for this but I’m 100% against the death penalty I hate it so much and I can’t and will never support the death penalty.

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      The other man I mentioned was Ivan Cantu, executed in February this year.

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        sarah1997

        Thank you!
        It’s truly sickening what Richard, Deluna, Cantù had to endure. My heart truly breaks to these 3 I’m speechless sometimes and reading this book i literally cry I’m reading it literally right now and as I’m typing this I’m tearing up.

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  50. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    does anyone know where Doreen spread Richard’s ashes or was very private he only told her? I’m just curious

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      I cannot break a confidence, and would never dream of doing so, therefore, I can’t give the exact location. However, his ashes were scattered where he asked for them to go.
      The information could be out there, I don’t know, but it won’t come from us. Hope that’s OK.
      The stories of no family caring what happened to the remains is unequivocally false.
      Doreen stepped up and took care of it, just as she always did. She was still his legal next of kin.

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        sarah1997

        Of course it’s ok! If this is something confidential and soemthing you’re not allowed to say I totally understand and respect that don’t worry hehe! But thank you for at least letting me know that his ashes were scattered where he wanted them that’s tbh enough information for me about that! Yes I did read that his family didn’t care etc… I forgot where I read that but I’m glad it’s false!

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