The Night Stalker: Negative Serology

Blood Evidence: No Comparison

One of the weapons used to kill Mary Cannon was a milk glass lamp stand. The dried blood on the glass was tested in a laboratory. It was discovered that the PGM markers did not match Cannon, nor did they match Richard Ramirez. This might suggest that the killer cut himself while smashing the glass. Alternatively, perhaps he was already bleeding from cutting himself with the knife when he picked up the lamp stand.

There was also a blood-stained mitten at the Cannon crime scene. The PGM subtype matched both Richard Ramirez and Mary Cannon. Further testing by electrophoresis conclusively proved that Ramirez was not the source of this blood either.

Three days after Mary Cannon was murdered, teenager Whitney Bennett was almost beaten and strangled to death just two miles away. Many objects in the room were covered in Bennett’s blood, except the window sash. Somebody had smeared Type A blood over it. Whitney Bennett was Type O. So was Richard Ramirez.

Little was said about the Type A blood at trial. In Philip Carlo’s biography, it briefly mentions that Ramirez’s attorney, Ray Clark, was not ready to proceed because “the Special Master was still having difficulty getting samples of evidence from the prosecutor’s office” (pg. 303). Does this mean that the Bennett scene blood was never released at trial? What motive might the prosecutor have had for withholding this evidence? Although the Habeas Corpus does not talk about this, it constitutes a Brady violation: when a prosecutor fails to provide a defendant or criminal defence attorneys with any favourable or helpful evidence to a defendant’s case. The defence should then file a Brady motion, but Ramirez’s team failed to do so.

The two crime scenes were attended by the same forensic serologist, Giselle LaVigne. Why did she use PGM marker testing at Cannon, but used ABO grouping at Bennett? Because the issue was skirted over at trial, the prosecution’s evidence was never challenged. LaVigne was never asked whether the blood at both crime scenes could have come from the same source. Neither appeared to come from Ramirez but the jury was left bewildered. The following is a declaration from confused juror Martha Salcido: Document 20.8 (Exhibit 129).

“As jurors, we wanted physical evidence and only the shoe prints and the one handprint on the window [at the Vincow scene] provided what we needed. I recall some confusion over something like blood stains.”

Declaration of Martha Salcido, Document 20.8 (Exhibit 29)

Ramirez’s father, Julián Tapia Ramirez, was also aware of the blood evidence that could have exonerated his son. He was interviewed in the El Paso Times.

“The father also said he believes key evidence was ignored by prosecutors. He cited a blood sample found at one of the crime scenes that “was compared to Richie’s and it didn’t match. Whose blood was it?” Ramirez also said a distinctive bloody tennis shoe print found at the murder sites could not be linked to his son. [the print was made in blood at both Cannon and Bennett] “They [prosecutors] never proved it was Ricardo’s shoe,” he said.

El Paso Times, 22nd September 1989

Ramirez was proven not to be the source of mystery blood at two crime scenes, but his defence was so incompetent that the jury was confused and one blood sample was ignored entirely. The Bennett blood sample was also not discussed in the automatic direct appeal. It is a wonder that Ramirez’s federal habeas lawyers even knew about it.

Hair

The same thing happened with hair. At five Night Stalker crime scenes, head hair was found: Bell and Lang, Cannon, Bennett, Nelson and Kneiding. The hairs at Bennett and Kneiding had come from the victims apart from a shirt found on a shirt at a construction site that was dissimilar to Ramirez’s. At Bell and Lang, Cannon and Nelson, hairs were inconsistent with their own, but matched each other in colour.

In the 2008 Habeas Corpus appeal, this hair is described as light brown or medium brown. While hair testing methods were somewhat primitive back then and no longer used, the hair was obviously different to Ramirez’s in colour, length and texture. At the preliminary hearing, the serologist, Melvin Kong, also said these hairs were blonde. This might suggest they were an in-between colour: a mousey sort of brown. Kong revealed that the hairs at each crime scene were not tested for similarities to each other. They were only tested for similarity to Richard Ramirez, which of course was negative.

As reported in the Daily Breeze and Monrovia News-Post in 1986

Why were they not compared? Is it because the police had told Kong they were only looking for a dark curly-haired killer? Why were the hairs called blonde at the preliminary hearing, but light brown or medium brown at the trial? Either way, it is madness that both blood and hair from crime scenes were not tested against each other and only compared with target suspect Richard Ramirez.

Pubic or transitional hairs (between chest and pubic hair) were found at several crime scenes: Bell and Lang, Bennett, Kneiding and Abowath. They varied with one another and were inconclusive.

Semen

Ramirez was convicted of four rape attacks. Only one rape yielded semen evidence: the Abowath attack. This was not Ramirez’s semen. Although it did not go to trial, was this semen ever compared to samples from the Carns and Erickson attack? Nothing was mentioned at the preliminary hearing. Perhaps the prosecution did not have the evidence. There was also semen found at the Pan case. Pan occurred nine days after Abowath, but in his book, Inspector Frank Falzon said the semen was untestable because DNA testing was not widespread – although it absolutely was used to convict in the 1980s. But what about PGM testing or ABO blood grouping? Why is there no mention of the semen matching? Because Pan did not go to trial, it must also remain a mystery.

“Strategy”

Some of this evidence should not have made it past the preliminary hearing, if only Ramirez’s attorneys had bothered to check the strength of the prosecutor’s evidence. They made no effort to defend the blood at the hearings, citing “strategy” and waited until the trial – which they kept trying to stall. Arturo and Daniel Hernandez only found out the prosecution’s case was weak and that Ramirez was defendable in 1987 – 18 months after the preliminary hearing. It dawned on them that they had no money to retain forensic specialists to argue the case for Ramirez’s innocence.

“The case originally seemed something that was totally indefensible….[now] we find the case has turned out to be very defensible … the monies we’ve agreed to with the family are totally inadequate to defend the case.”

– Arturo Hernandez, Petition, pp. 230-231.

Instead of conceding that they were ill-equipped to save him from multiple death penalties, his lawyers held onto the case, unsuccessfully begging the court to pay them. As a result, Ramirez spent four years in L.A. County Jail before the serial killings went to trial and in the meantime, the media allowed the public to believe there was no doubt he had committed the crimes, when the serologists knew otherwise.

This could have been worked out just 6 months after Ramirez’s capture and the murder investigations would have had to continue. Whoever had light brown hair and Type A blood was probably still out there and maybe went on to kill again somewhere else. We have no way of knowing whether Ramirez had something to do with the killings (perhaps as an accomplice or a runner for stolen property) but we do know this is reasonable doubt. Surely if the defence had been competent, the jury would not have been so confused and returned a verdict of not guilty?

-VenningB-

15th June 2024

70 responses to “The Night Stalker: Negative Serology”

  1. Of all the twists and turns within this case, the serology is the most frustrating, and hiding/losing possible exculpatory evidence is shameful. None of those predictable podcasts ever mention this, it’s as if no one thought it important that someone else was in Bennett’s room that night.

    Arturo and Daniel Hernandez, and Ray Clark were appalling.

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    1. It feels like no one is highlighting it, even now. I know we can’t help a dead man, but it’s still outrageous.
      I have read in other cases of police forensics labs being too afraid to defy the police forces that employ them, so it might explain why the serologists discredited their own findings. And of course they evaded cross examination because of the bad defence lawyers.
      But surely the prosecutor and judge realised there was something wrong there? Halpin obviously just wanted to secure that high profile conviction to look good but Tynan let it slide. Shame on Daniel and Arturo Hernandez for being too greedy to relinquish the case.

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      1. No one is ever going to talk about this outside of this blog, they never have. All of this has been hidden, pushed aside, to keep the popular stories current.
        Halpin was lucky that the Ramirez defence team were so utterly useless. He must’ve been laughing his head off at how easy they made his job.

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      2. I’ve always wondered whether Haplin and Tynan was forced by politicians or people in higher positions to “ensure” Richard’s conviction so that this whole NS business could be put to rest. But both of them are extremely shady characters regardless.

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      3. It wouldn’t surprise me at all.

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      4. Just because he’s dead doesn’t mean people can’t be held accountable for what they did and continue to do or that the case can’t be discussed in this way. The fact that he ended up dying in prison for crimes where the evidence was not 100% conclusive regarding his guilt is even more reason for this case to be openly discussed, criticized, and dissected. Someone’s life and freedom were unfairly and unconstitutionally taken away, and that deserves thorough examination. People will try to find any excuse to prevent critical discussion of this case. What they don’t realize is that the more they try to silence these conversations, the more doubt they create. They wouldn’t be saying the same if it happened to someone they loved and cared about.

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      5. Also people who say those types of things are those who have no respect or regard for the lives and freedoms of others.

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      6. How could the negative serology be highlighted then ? The podcasters and YouTube fans are only interested in using Richard as a stereotype gadget ? But such a basic fact as negative serology might be interesting for them. ..Should be at least ! It s surely possible to make a post on YouTube about it. I ll try this. Hehehe. There have been some more critical responses of some of the ” fangirls “. Sometimes I even doubt wether many of them are really “fans” . LOL

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      7. The fangirls hate this site, it upsets them greatly that the evidence and trial are both being questioned. They “love all that blood”. We had one email us screeching and crying about it, I sent her on her way. lol

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  2. I have noticed in many not just Richard’s that when the serological evidence doesn’t match they will make excuses saying that sample is insufficient, poor-quality, degraded, or contaminated. Sometimes they will just brush the negative DNA findings under the rug like they did in the LA trial. But then be quick to shut down any doubt or concerns when the DNA is inconclusive or has a possibility to match the DNA of the culprit. Like in the Mei Leung case they later found out that the sample was mixed, yet they claim with confidence that it was Richard who committed the crime. These people are shady as hell and focus more on clearing cases than actually getting justice for the innocent victims. It’s sick!

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    It’s honestly such a shame what happened with Ramirez. Everyone around him failed him since the very beginning. He had a lot of potential with his life and was really quite intelligent. I’m so glad you’re coming out with the truth, and I hope more people can see this and understand how messed up the justice system is and how little we really know. I remember reading Philip Carlos’s book, The Night Stalker, where it was mentioned several times that Richard constantly told his family that it wasn’t him and that he was a scapegoat. Philip made it sound like Richard simply lied about this to ease his family, not at all taking into consideration that what Richard said, he said for a reason, and could be saying the truth. No wonder his family, and his father who abused him too believed in Richard’s innocent through and though. Also, in one of Philip’s interviews with Richard, you can hear Richard telling him “You’re not gonna make me to look bad are you?” followed by a sarcastic laugh suggesting that Richard knew Philip would anyway. And so Philip did… Later on in one of Richard’s phone call with one of his penpals, he calls Philip a lying weasel. Wonder why Ha. Richard, as he mentioned in his interview with Mike Watkiss, knew that “the world has been fed many lies about me, I’ve read very few truths”. Before Richard could dive deeper into the topic, Mike quickly swayed the conversation back to his harsh accusations about Richard. Not to mention the several interview clips of Richard they’ve hidden from public view, now slowly being revealed again. You can tell these clips were hidden since Richard laughed like a child and mentioned important things that they don’t want us to know. They want us to believe he was a cold-blooded monster and so they hide videos of him potraying otherwise. So many lovers and people that knew Richard described him to be a nice and friendly boy who made everyone laugh. There’s more evidence that Richard did not commit certain crimes than that he did. He was railroaded over and over and it frustrates me. I could go on all day about it lol.

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    1. I think the “You’re not gonna make me out to look bad” quote is very telling: that he wanted to look good somehow, like he told his attorney (Michael Burt) that he believed he could write a book without damaging himself: he might have genuinely believed this was just going to be a biography on his life: the truth; his truth.

      I saw some people being surprised at how he came across in the clips, but I wasn’t. To me, he came across exactly how I imagined him to be, based on statements by friends. Perhaps we had a glimpse into the man/boy his friends knew.

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  4. And ..I have a question . Can this whole case be called ” a process based on circumstancial evidents ” ? Because I just wanted to know the right terminology . Are there no ” hard evidents ” ? Obviously not.

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    1. I think so yeah. The only hard evidence they claimed to have was that fingerprint on Jennie Vincow’s window. Which we all know wasn’t verified independently. The rest, Solano and his stolen goods, the Avia shoes, Ramirez’s travel patterns in May and August are all circumstantial, I’d say. Even Jesse Perez’s gun is circumstantial because they could never prove that he touched it.

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      1. I was asking about the terminolgy because it occured to me that I found it so difficult to describe what ” this” actually was at all. It somehow occured to me that this was all so confusing ! But as I can see the whole case with more distance now , its getting a bit clearer .

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  5. I remember when Jay first told me about the Ramirez case and I was like, “surely this is big. This is a massive thing?!” Only to be told that anyone questioning the case is quickly put down. The people who “love him most” don’t want him to be “innocent”. People aren’t interested and think it’s a weird conspiracy theory cooked up by lawyers. Then they will admit that his trial wasn’t fair while simultaneously refusing to accept that some of the the crimes look like they were committed by someone else. That an unfair trial can make the verdicts questionable.
    They’re thick as shit. That’s what we call them in Britain. “Thick as pig shit.”

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    1. Like the one who emailed utterly incensed that’d we’d done “all that research” and spent “all that time” to spread fake info. As if we conjured up the court docs out of nowhere and magically spirited witness statements, police reports up, just like that.
      Thinking court papers are misinformation, rather than ‘information’, shows a lack of intelligence.

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      1. That was a cretin.
        How do these people explain the serologist at Abowath demonstrating that the semen sample contained genetic markers that were not Richards?

        I saw someone claim the hair isn’t relevant because we all shed hair. True, but when that hair is stuck to tape used to bind a victim, or it’s on the bed next to a body, it’s more important than normal shed hair around the house. It becomes evidence.

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      2. They can’t explain it, often due to being too dim to understand what the serologists actually said. My patience wears thin with these morons. Lol

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  6. He said it himself, it’s a game to them.

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  7. Abowath was added because 1. The Solano link. Their property was in his house and he blamed Richard. 2. The “swear on Satan” thing, assuming he’s the only satanist around. 3. The bullets looked similar to those at other crime scenes. 4. They claimed Stadia trainer prints were found in the Abowath’s house, ignoring the fact she said he had big boots on.

    I assume he denied them too. He definitely put in an innocence plea. There were tapes that judge Nelson heard but he didn’t agree that they constitute confessions.

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    1. But the semen they had from the examination was Not Richards ! Or did they find this fact to be not important ? And the heavy boots dercribed by Mrs Abowath ?

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      1. They ignored forensic science in favour of Sakina’s screaming. They found her cries more compelling. Once, I got into an argument over this. A woman said I was being sexist by suggesting that a “hysterical woman swayed a stupid jury.” But that’s literally what happened. Their statements said this is why they found him guilty! They specifically mentioned her crying and the Solano aspect! Argh. People are dense. It’s frustrating. Glad to have you people here making sense!

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  8. How exactely did they link him to the Bell and Lang crime ? I d appreciate it very much if you explained this in short again .

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    1. Pentagrams, shoe prints and Solano who had the cassette player/stereo. All circumstantial of course. Frank Salerno said Jesse Perez’s friend had the stereo, but the court docs say Solano had it.

      Forensically, it wasn’t him. Blondish brown hairs were found on the tape that tied Lang’s legs to the bed posts.

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  9. but it’s stupid how everyone just believed them without proof and evidence it’s like ok their cops how can they lie?! Ughhh

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    1. Unfortunately police aren’t held to high standards. At least not in the U.S. They pretty much do what they want unchecked. Unless they really screw up, and it becomes public knowledge, then you’ll see consequences. In Richard’s case, no one bothered to look into any wrongdoing by law enforcement. He was the Night Stalker the moment they discovered who he was, and evidence or a lack thereof didn’t matter.

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      1. It is crazy. Unfortunately that’s precisely what happened. They didn’t bother to investigate any other suspects because they had predetermined that Richard was their man!

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      2. That’s not fair to Richard at all i remember Richard saying “ it’s easier to convict a man words than with evidence” ik Richard was the smartest guy out there but he wasn’t dumb his thoughts were just badly distorted and not only that but the media and everyone took every word he’s said out of context.

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      3. Yes , and I ve also learned about Halpin s power in this case . The Hernandes brothers were useless , but there was Halpin in the background , and it seems to me that he was directing the whole thing..Hernandes & Co were like puppets on a string ..

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      4. It’s like Carrillo is the villain of the Task Force and Halpin is the villain of the court!

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      5. Halpin was definitely in control of that court room. He had Tynan on a string and Tynan never went against what Halpin wanted. Makes you wonder what that relationship was about.

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  10. I have a question about why exactely were the last Habeas Corpus pleas rejected ? Was it because the DNA sample 2009 positive? And ..He did have good attorneys at the time , didnt he ? What was their reaction ? Did he get on with them ? I ve read that after 2009 Richard became more difficult and that he was nt allowed visitors but that he also did not want visitors . But i would assume that there were not so many visitors left who wanted to see him.? Could I find Information about all that in PlainSite ?

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    1. It was never heard because Richard died. We don’t know what the attorneys thought because they refused to give statements to the media. So it’s all a mystery yet again…

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      1. what I’m furious about is that in the 2009 DNA testing for the mei case they claimed his dna match and the other guys was a negative no match I don’t understand that how can one match and the other a negative when the cloth was heavily contaminated so ofc mixed DNA plays a really big role here

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      2. Mixed DNA samples are very difficult to test and it’s extremely difficult to separate profiles. And impossible to determine who contributed how much of a sample. It’s also likely that the sample was contaminated considering where it was found. Also who knows how it was stored and under what conditions for decades causing degradation. All of that would have affected the integrity of the sample. We also know that the originsl suspect at the time of the murder looked nothing like Richard.

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      3. Yes indeed i totally agree with you but whah I don’t understand is how could they there was 2 suspects but one match Richard and the other was false or negative? How were they so positive it was Richard considering it was a mixed sample.

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      4. They can’t be, that’s why the second suspect was brushed under the carpet, and it was reiterated that it was a false positive. In doing so they undermined their own science. A DNA consultant, who had worked on Mei’s case, told reporters that SFPDs explanation was “gibberish”.

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      5. Yes, that’s exactly what they did. The DNA expert (Rockne Harmon) was of the opinion that it needed further investigation because of the second sample. We go into it further in the article Venning and I wrote about Mei.

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      6. You’re very kind, thank you.

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      7. I think they acted positive about the results because that’s what they wanted to present publicly. It’s a bunch of b.s. to say that one sample matched Richard’s, but the other profile was false. So basically, you’re telling me that the sample with Richard’s alleged DNA was of good quality to accurately identify a profile, but the one right beside it wasn’t and shouldn’t been tested? Nope that makes absolutely no sense.

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    2. A lot of it is on plainsite.org. His 2008 Habeas corpus, which was the federal one, hadn’t been rejected. It took years to prepare because of a few reasons amongst those being that Richard’s attorneys had difficulty getting LA trial documents and evidence and some of it they never got and had to file the petition without it. Also, Richard being obstructive and paranoid contributed to delays. The so-called 2009 DNA sample was introduced at the same time the petition was headed to the 9th circuit court. I don’t think that was a coincidence. It was done to further blacken his name. That sample was junk. And supposedly took 5 years to generate a profile. That isn’t normal. So, in my opinion the sample was bogus.

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    3. It wasn’t rejected, they weren’t read as they were still in the long line waiting to be read. He died and so the petitions were dismissed “with prejudice”, meaning they can never be raised again. In petitions of Habeas Corpus, the petitioner must be alive and brought before the courts. Richard never got his evidentiary hearing.

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  11. Ted Bundy is the textbook definition of anti-social personality disorder. He thought because he was a law student he could do a good job of representing himself. 😆 He was allowed to use the law library and roam around the courthouse. Did you know one of the times he escaped he jumped out a window that was in the library. 😅

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    1. Yes I do indeed know he jumped out of that very library but not only that but he escaped twice 😂😂

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  12. No, they say they have medical records that show he was in the area in 84, but no one has ever seen them. When he was arrested in 85, he wasn’t considered a suspect in Mei Leung’s case, even though SFPD were desperately trying to link him to other crimes. The original suspect in Mei’s case was nothing like Ramirez; they changed the appearance in 2009.
    The hotel you’re referring to (I think) is in relation to his whereabouts in SF at the time of the Pan murder.

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    1. He was allegedly staying on Ellis Street and Mason Street in March 1984. Mei was killed in April.
      Then in August 1985 he stayed a few days at the Hotel Bristol.

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    2. Allright , but wich medical records of Richard ? Did they put his name in Computer and then found the records of R.?.How did they say that he was in S F. at the time of Mei Leung crime…? Where was he staying at that time ? And what about the other suspect , he was seen in the house but no resemblance zu R……I had read tha R stayes at a hotel near Farrel Street .. Or they had this mixed DNA and after examination they compared it with Richard ..But.sorry , I m not sure they had R.DNA at that early time..SORRY guess I m in a mess . BUT to me it was not Richard anyway who did that crime. NO WAY !
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      1. We don’t know exactly what records, they’ve never shown them. I understand he allegedly saw a doctor in the area, or something like that.
        Have you read the post we wrote about Mei Leung?

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  13. They pegged him 2009 with this DNA thing .. So , before that he was only a suspect ? I think so. Sometimes I have trouble with understanding everything in your book as its in English , and there is no Google translater. But I wished that case could be re investigated !

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    1. No, he became a suspect in 2009 when the DNA sample flagged him up on the system.

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      1. Oh I see ! Allright . Thats why he became even more depressed .After that his hope was gone completely.

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      2. Yes . Sorry .Sure he was already in prison since 85 !!

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      3. Mei was killed in 84, so when he was arrested in 85, you would naturally assume they would have tried to connect him with the unsolved death of a child in San Francisco the previous year. Especially as San Francisco was the scene of the Pan murder, but that didn’t happen. He was never a suspect for Mei’s murder until that DNA hit in 2009.
        They’d been working for 5 years to get a profile from the mixed samples, in the end they ended up with 2.

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    2. He wasn’t a suspect before 2009.

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    3. As Venning said Richard was not a suspect until 2009. And only then after 5 years of trying to find a profile from the sample on the handkerchief.

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      1. Oh WoW …now Ive finally got it ! I must have confused the timeline of the case …I really didnt question when he was made a suspect …until I thought ” Hm WTF , ive overseen something . Thats so so bad that they made him a suspect so late , after endless time of trying to do so. Yes , it was because of the coming petition…They ve put the DNA through CODIS …and that was successful ….And that was it for Richard ! Depressive state of mind worsened . But …its right they found the handkerchief with the mixed DNA at the crime scene 84 and than stored it for 24 years ( I knew that ) until 2009 ! Very weird actions of the people involved ! But there is another incredible thing which is not acceptable to me . This concerns the fact that Frank Falzon did not gave order to examine / compare the semen sample from the Abowath case with the semen sample from the Pan case ( also Erickson case ) .! He had argued that DNA method was still too unusual .( or so ). But since 1980 DNA sample proof was already quite often in use. And …in a murder and rape case it should have been done everything to find the suspect. ..its one s duty I think. So ..Richard was convicted for 4 rapes , one serotogical prooven it was NOT him …and the others conviction only by circumstancial or NO evidents !

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      2. Regarding Falzon, yes! DNA was used in the USA in 1987. San Francisco is next door to Contra Costa County who used a full crime lab so it’s weird how San Francisco police didn’t have the resources.

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  14. The DNA evidence 2009 , I dont believe that. Its rather an act of desperation to me. Plus ..the whole investigation is so really bad . Thats why I asked about how they could know wether Richard was in San Fransisco , or even better , near the crime scene when the crime happened. He must have been at a dentist or doctor when they had a medical record of him…. Maybe I m confused now , but when did they catch or accuse him for this crime ? It was when he was already imprisoned in L.A.?

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    1. I agree it was an act of desperation. It gave the DA something else to use had his petition been heard by the 9th Circuit Court. His habeas corpus lawyers would have destroyed that so called evidence.

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    2. There’s no proof he was anywhere near the crime scene where Mei was killed. It’s all a bunch of hearsay and not reliable. I’ve never seen anything that proves he was in SF at the time.

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  15. So, for this serology business, I’ve been told that “Lawyers make shit up to save their client!” There’s a reason that statement is on our list of “Common Stupid Arguments” https://expendableforacause.net/2024/08/07/common-stupid-arguments-about-the-richard-ramirez-case/

    But the stuff about the blood and hair wasn’t a defence argument! It was revealed by serologists who are *supposed* to be independent of the police. The defence failed to emphasise it and allowed it to be swept away, especially when the serologists ceded to the prosecutor and claimed their own methods must be shit.

    These people need to go back to their list of weak excuses to make none of this suspicious so they can protect their “evil Richard” wankfest.

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    1. And the people that comment on the trial don’t even know his lawyers were bad. They refuse to learn about the trial and think it’s unworthy of consideration. They assume we lack understanding about lawyers when it’s them who have a wall up against new information.

      They prefer to repeat what they’ve heard on a shit documentary. Their words have almost become a set of mantras. “Ramirez loved himself so much.” “Psychopath, sadist, pedo!” “What an edgelord!” Then anyone who has read into his case gives people an excuse to abuse women for being dumb and “seduced by his looks.” It’s said to make you feel small and stupid. The hysteria over him overrides the ability to be impartial. Especially Californians. Richard is part of Los Angeles lore, their culture almost, and they won’t let go of their childish boogey man and heroic cop mentality. From where I’m standing, it looks deranged and dense.

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      1. I agree. Most who comment on his alleged crimes and personality, have no idea how wrong they are. They don’t want to actually study the case but prefer the sensationalized version. They seem to relish in their ignorance. I agree they are dense and deranged. They love the boogeyman story.

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      2. I completely agree with everything you said! They are all delusional with their Richard’s case as if they are hypnotized into it. They make those documentaries sound so believable, interviewing victims and cops and families of victims make it even more believable. They don’t understand that victims can lie as well, no one here is victim shaming but we are allowed and have the right to question anything, what? We are just supposed to except the narrative cuz that’s what the cops said? Ya no thnx, they act as if we are the crazy ones and again with that stupid groupie shit lol if they come up with those lame excuses then automatically you can tell they are brainless.

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    2. Yes, there should have been a different outcome based on the evidence and lack thereof. But they were determined to make Richard their man from the moment they learned who he was. They were determined to make the evidence fit. It still didn’t, but they used it anyway. It’s like they all had tunnel vision. They did not want to hear or see anything that didn’t agree with their claims of Richard as a murdering, rapist satanist who terrorized California.

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      1. That’s so dumb and they call them selves hero’s? Lol more like zeros to me. It’s like a puzzle and Richard is the puzzle piece that doesn’t fit so they cut parts of that puzzle and placed on the whole puzzle instead finding the missing piece and then boom puzzle done! That’s how I see the case!

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  16. With this new documentary, I know that nobody will believe our exposé on the child abduction cases and how they couldn’t have been committed by Richard. Because to them, his niece’s allegations will “prove” that he was this sort of person. They will ignore our evidence and discount it and her narrative will dominate.

    Although we have to remember, even if what she says is true, it doesn’t make these cases true. We know that Anastasia was attacked by a short man with a Native American tattoo so the niece is drifting alone in this.

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    1. Exactly. We know the child abductions cases were not committed by Richard. And his nieces claims are dubious with shifting timelines that change to fit their allegations. This documentary is going to be more of the same trash lies! I wish we knew the time period Rosie was in foster care. It probably would contradict her timeline.

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  17. and you Jay and Kaycee give us all hope and so much more! Lol sometimes I feel my comments make no sense 😂

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