You, the Jury

Questioning

The word “occult” comes from the Latin “occultus”. Ironically, the trial of an infamous occultist and Satanist is the epitome of the meaning of the word itself: clandestine, secret; hidden. 

We’ve written many words; a story needed to be told, and we created this place to enable us to do just that.
Here, in this space, we intended to present the defence omitted at Richard Ramirez’s trial in violation of his constitutional rights. Our investigations have taken us down roads we’d rather not travel along, but as we did so, we realised that there was so much hidden we could search for a lifetime and still not see the end of it. Once we’d started, there was no turning back; we followed wherever it led.

This was never about proving innocence; that was never the intent or purpose. We wanted to begin a dialogue, allowing this information to be freely discussed and for us to verbalise the rarely asked questions. We asked, and we’re still asking.

We can’t tell you, the reader, what to think; you must come to your own conclusions, as we did.


And so

We’ve said what we came here to say; with 88 articles and supporting documents, we’ve said as much as we can at this point.
This blog will stand as a record of that, and although we will still be here, we intend to only update if we find new information, if we suddenly remember something we haven’t previously covered, or to “tidy up” existing articles and examine any new claims (or expose outrageous lies) that come to light. The site will be maintained, and we’ll be around to answer any comments or questions.


What Next?

We will focus on the book being worked on; we’ve also been invited to participate in a podcast. When we have dates for those, we’ll update you.

The defence rests? Somehow, I sincerely doubt that; ultimately, we’re all “expendable for a cause”. 

~ J, V and K ~

12 responses to “You, the Jury”

  1. Thank you for your brain scratching, heartbreaking, and exhausting research of a very important event in history. Your thoughtful and clear presentation should be able to explain to those who are sworn to believe what they were told without question. Many, many errors were uncovered by your unwavering dedication.
    Thank you for Richard who isn’t here to Thank you himself.
    I eagerly await your book.

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    1. Hi, thank you for that, for your kind words. You nailed it, it’s been a very intense couple of years since we started this. Anger, disbelief and at times, consuming.
      We have been told we shouldn’t do it, don’t meddle, don’t speak out. The more we hear it, the more we talk. We’re not done yet. As for the book, watch this space because it’s coming!
      Thank you for reading what we have to say. One day it will be “mainstream” to ask questions.

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    2. Thank you! Thanks for reading.

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  2. I want to add my thanks.

    It has now been almost seven months since I found this site. And here is an odd fact: It was only a few days after I finished watching that damn Netflix thing that I found this site! Talk about a roller coaster! Now, the ONLY reason that I’m glad I saw the Netflix series is because it led me to this.

    And I’m happy to read that you have been invited to participate in a podcast!

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    1. Hi, thank you so much for reading and engaging with us.
      The Netflix documentary is a travesty, and should never have been made.
      We’ll update you about the podcast when we have a date.

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    2. Funny you should mention the Netflix documentary. I was rewatching last night just to zoom in on the “evidence room” board. My partner was watching and couldn’t understand why the police were so sure there was a serial killer based on a shoeprint pattern. One you find out it’s not conclusive, that’s the first thing that makes the story fall apart.
      Yes, they were rare in black that year…but the black clad killer was invented by Carrillo.

      Then there’s the no MO and the composites that look nothing like him. I’m glad people find us so quickly after watching it. It truly is shite and full of filler, like slow-mo weapons, weird shots of the detectives staring at nothing and boring chunks about Salerno’s past success and Carrillo’s dull arse family life.

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      1. Yes, and it neatly skips over the important things, like discussing the difference in Avia sole patterns, faulty ballistics reports and the ever changing eyewitness stories, and non-existent semen matches. Oh.. and missing out Carol Kyle altogether because her description of an attacker with nice teeth doesn’t quite fit. Quite frankly it explains nothing and is just a vehicle for Carrillo.

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  3. Again, thank you for your hard work and for providing us with some answers. This entire affair stank, and frankly I’m surprised very few people seem to have noticed the smell from episode one of that Netflix documentary, because the moment I started watching it I thought it can’t be just me, right?
    And there you guys are, with solid research, trying to put an end to this charade. I can’t wait to hear the podcast and I certainly will buy your book and talk about it on my bookish social media profiles.
    I sincerely wish you all the best and I’ll keep chatting here, almost all your posts deserve some rereading to fully grasp this rollercoaster.
    And I hope those who humiliated Ramirez and his family all this time face the consequences of their actions at some point.
    I’m all for sending serial killers and rapists where they belong, but this is not it.

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    1. Thank you for reading and responding with such perception, and I am glad you will still drop in to chat with us.
      My feelings regarding the Netflix Shop of Horrors were exactly the same; how could people believe it?
      The information is out there, people really need to open their eyes, but as so few do that, we decided to do it for them. Ha ha!
      I am not being facetious, there has to be a balance, something to counter the provable untruths and questionable evidence that have been taken as gospel.

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      1. Personally, the documentary kind of fell in my lap because I’d been watching another one on the Cecil Hotel very casually and the Night Stalker showed up in my recommendations. The format and the overall introduction was well done and it sounded interesting, but it was the first time I heard so many contradictions from a cop’s interview in the span of a few minutes.
        For example, the gun being a very common caliber and inconclusive but two minutes later oh it must be the same guy shooting another chick in a completely different context.
        Unfortunately, most searches lead to either a group of fangirls suffering from hybristophilia or the usual SJW denouncing romanticizing criminals.
        Only a handful of people seem to care about the many flaws of the investigation and prosecution, that’s why I’m grateful for the work you’re putting into this.

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      2. The whole thing connecting Okazaki and Yu is ludicrous. It bothered me so much, I ended up with me writing the post Utter Nonce-sense. Inconclusive bullets…a spurious connection with the composite sketch looking “similar” to the child abductor drawing (if ya say so, Gil). No matter that the actual written description was totally different.

        I discovered in Carlo’s book that Carrillo asked the Yu witnesses to come to view a lineup featuring a suspect Maria Hernandez chose (Arturo Robles) – but WHY? They described possible Asian. And … the child victims were also there. I haven’t put it in a post. It will be in the book though. He was so desperate to connect these three crimes.

        The hybristophiles and SJWs are very repetitive. “I don’t condone!” “This is strictly an information page. People who like killers are sick…anyway…ooooh Ramirez totally loved rape and dominance!” Some would constantly express disgust at his “paedophilia” but obsessed over how “cute” he was in the next sentence.

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      3. One day it has to be more openly discussed, the system is broken. Sending gladiators into the arena, one armed only with a wooden sword, was essentially what this trial was.
        I’m not certain if that’s a correct analogy because the Romans indeed matched unequal opponents, but you get what I am trying to say.

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