Serial Delusions

Richard Ramirez, January 1989.

“A series of crimes involves distinctive features, offences or signature mark to indicate that particular individual likely committed all of the crimes. Distinctive features of a modus operandi include cause of death, type of weapon used, or victim. By definition, a series of crimes requires similarity among the criminal acts; crimes linked together because of unusual or unique characteristics not present in other crimes. In the absence of a distinctive pattern, crimes are not necessarily connected together; they may be random acts allegedly committed by one or more suspects”

(Declaration of Steve Strong, criminalist and expert witness in gang-related crime, homicide investigation, and narcotics investigation.  From the Writ of Habeas Corpus

The police authorities were so desperate to declare they had a serial killer on their hands, they began to link the incidents together, unconcerned that there was a distinct lack of pattern, or any M.O, they announced the lack of pattern was the M.O.  Of course, how obvious.  Nice one, Gil Carrillo!

Image: Netflix. A nonsensical quote, for how can anything be similar if dissimilar?
Frank Salerno, from the Writ of Habeas Corpus, document 19-10

In closing argument, the prosecution emphasised to the jury that physical evidence, specifically shoe print impression and ballistics, linked Richard Ramirez to the series of crimes.  The prosecution argued, improperly, that the crimes constituted a pattern of offences. There was significant evidence to show that the incidents were not all linked to one another.  Criminalist and expert witness, Steve Strong, described the prosecution’s evidence as demonstrating a lack of pattern with respect to many of the incidents.

In the Vincow incident, for example, a print was found on a window screen but not inside the residence. Time of death was estimated to be in the afternoon, unlike the night- time intrusions in many of the cases ( Zazzara, Doi, Bell and Lang, Cannon, Bennett, Nelson, Kneiding, and the uncharged incident), it is not possible to determine how many persons were involved in each incident. It is not so obvious that he was the only suspect due, in part, to the lack of evidence at the scenes. Another massive fail from his deficient defence, who didn’t even bother to investigate the dodgy characters surrounding Richard, the fence, Felipe Solano, with his entourage of thieves, liars, police informers and those who betrayed him for the money.  (More about these particular individuals in an up-coming post.)

The reason it was hard to apprehend a suspect in the so-called Night Stalker crimes was because there was no discernible pattern. The locations of the scenes had no particular pattern, except for four incidents in Monterey Park, and the geographical range was wide. (See map pinpointing the incident locations)


Location of incidents

Let’s examine just one part of this geographical range and a brief look at two incidents within.

The map below shows the locations and distance between two crimes committed on the same night, Kneiding and Khovananth.  The details of these crimes will be discussed in a future post, but for now, I will concentrate on the logistics because I find this one particularly interesting, as they occurred during the early hours of the same day, and yet were not “linked” together by evidence from ballistics or the obligatory Avia print.  The M.O is also completely different, one being a double murder, the other, murder/rape/burglary.

What Happened?

Maxon and Lela Kneiding were both murdered during a terrible and bloody attack at their Glendale home during the early of 20th July 1985.  No time of death has been released, but we are told that the Kneidings daughter discovered their bodies at 8am on the morning of 20th July, and the only other indication given is that the bodies were said to be in “full rigor” by 8pm. 

At an unclarified time after 12.30am on the same morning Somkid Khovananth was woken up in the Sun Valley home by a man holding a gun. Her husband was shot, and Ms Khovananth suffered a sexual attack, a beating and a robbery.  We are not told the time the attack happened, only that at 6am she heard an alarm clock sound and by 7am the police were in attendance.

Multiple weapons were used in the Kneiding murders, .22 calibre gun, machete, knives.  In the Khovananth incident, again a .22 calibre but, we are told, not the same one as in the Kneiding incident. 

So why Richard Ramirez?

 We are led to believe that the attacker, for unknown reasons, drove to Glendale in the very early hours of the 20th, committed a heinous, brutal, double murder, using an array of weaponry.  Then, deciding that more murder was on the agenda, drove 14 miles to Sun Valley (within minutes, according to the prosecution) to perpetrate another attack on the Khovananth household. 

Distance between incidents, showing two possible routes.

Given that the Kneiding attack was horrific in its brutality, whoever conducted this crime could not fail to be blood-drenched, it is impossible to think otherwise. However, Ms Khovananth does not mention her attacker being blood stained, she says nothing of the sort.  There is also no transfer of blood from one crime scene to the other, no smearing of blood anywhere at all.  Not one drop.  The attacker also used a different gun.

Are we to believe that Richard Ramirez, seeing as he was convicted, we might as well use his name, coming from the Kneiding murder, stopped somewhere along the way to change his clothes, have a shower and thoroughly clean out his undoubtedly bloody car? To then appear at the Khovananth residence devoid of any blood stains? This is the man, after all, who was known as “despeinada”, “uncombed or dishevelled” by some of his dodgy associates, the man sleeping in cars who doesn’t care about hygiene. Yet he’s suddenly capable of forensically scrubbing himself down as if he’s about to enter an operating theatre.

 Did he also, perhaps, ditch all his weapons somewhere along the way and decide to use another .22?   Twitter readers and Netflix watchers will undoubtedly scream, “He went to the Cecil Hotel!”  Did he really?  There is no evidence that that happened, and to do so would mean he doubled back on himself a good 8 miles, making it even more ridiculous.   Are we supposed to really believe that Richard, who, according to the prosecution, seems to have been more tooled up than a GTA character with a weapons stash to match, somehow managed to get rid of them all?  Bearing in mind that no weapons were ever recovered from him that could be linked to any of the incidents.

Perhaps, he threw them all off the Golden Gate Bridge, alongside his “phantom Avias”, maybe they just vanished into the ether, along with any credibility belonging to either his deficient attorneys or indeed, this case.

Route, if he’d stopped off at the “Cecil” for a clean-up.

So why was he blamed for these crimes?  Because the prosecution determined that the gun used in the Kneiding incident was used in the Okazaki and Yu incidents.  The shoeprint found at the Khovananth, linked to the other supposed Avia prints found elsewhere and her eyewitness testimony, which she changed.  That is indeed a far reach because, as has been shown, the evidence put forward by the prosecution was found to be false and unreliable, as discussed in THIS POST.

It seems to be a clear case of deciding the outcome and then trying to make the evidence fit around that. Yet again, none of this was questioned. What of the unidentified hair found in both scenes? Was that ever assessed to see if it matched? Nothing is ever mentioned about it. It wasn’t Richard’s; let’s all just move on and forget about it.

 The only pattern I see beginning to emerge is one of mystery semen, blood, hair and sets of unidentified fingerprints, none of which seemed to belong to Ramirez.

That time Gil Carrillo admitted the fingerprints at the Hernandez/Okazaki incident did not belong to Ramirez. Taken from transcripts from TV networks and listed in document 19-13 from the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

Look at the above image again.

“This new testimony recants one of the main pieces of evidence that linked Ramirez to the Okazaki murder”.

That information was dumped from the network that day, so no one watching the TV got to hear it.


The killings had no distinctive pattern; different weapons were used in many incidents, and none were ever found in Richard’s possession. The state’s theory that Richard must have put gloves on upon entry does not make sense because the crimes lacked organisation, according to the victim’s testimony.  The anomaly here is the “uncharged incident”, where for some inexplicable reason, the prosecution alleged that he removed his gloves after convincing the jury that the reason for lack of fingerprints was, well, he wore gloves, of course!

As an aside, the “uncharged incident” has another differing profile, featuring what must be the most well-appointed squad car in history. No need to call in for fingerprint and footprint technicians, not when Officer Wright had the whole lot in the boot of his car or up his sleeves. He was, so he claimed, able to dust for prints, take photographic evidence and even had the special, extra-large lifting tape required for shoeprint impressions. He did all that without calling in the people specifically trained to do this work. Amazing! No charges were made, and as the resident passed away sometime later, no one was around to dispute any of this. 


Ballistic Simplistic or Unrealistic

Ballistics evidence was involved in only eight of the incidents. The firearms comparison evidence did not determine who fired the weapons, and as the ballistics evidence was found to be unreliable, no link can be conclusively established.  

 Incompetence strikes once again, for in 1986, firearms expert, Paul Dougherty, was hired by Richard’s woeful defence counsel, to examine ballistics evidence gathered by the prosecution, of course, in their usual style, they failed to communicate with him and ignored his request to provide evidence itself, you know, so he could do his job.   His work was terminated before it even began.  Let me repeat this:

Counsel for the defence did NOT provide an expert witness with the evidence they had hired him to investigate.

This resulted in defence conceding ballistics charges without a whimper of protest. 

Statement of Paul Dougherty, doc 7-20, from the Writ of Habeas Corpus

Paul Dougherty, for the purpose of Habeas Corpus, was again asked to examine the ballistics evidence and his preliminary findings are interesting.

Statement of Paul Dougherty, doc 7-20, from the Writ of Habeas Corpus

In his statement, he explains that the law enforcement work was inaccurate and inadequate. In reviewing the work performed in this case, he found that:

“There are internal conflicts in the written reports with regard to the testing conducted, such as condition of the bullets.”

Ex. 35 Declaration of Paul Dougherty

In Dougherty’s opinion, all the ballistics evidence should be retested.  The State, in its zeal to get a conviction, presented evidence that was unreliable.

“It is impossible to say with certainty whether the findings . . . are accurate”.

Ex. 35 Declaration of Paul Dougherty

His examination discovered there was evidence of bullet distortion and lack of unique rifling characteristics, moreover, the three officers who first examined the ballistics evidence, could not agree on their findings.  Because of this only one was called upon to testify in court because his report fitted the prosecution case and the prosecution relied on ballistics evidence to try to link the crimes.

It is worth knowing that there is NO scientific foundation in the claim that a specific bullet can be matched to a particular gun; the same goes for shell casings.

“In Okazaki and Yu to Kneiding, Zazzara to Khovananth, and Petersen to Abowath. Prosecution witness Edward Robinson testified that ballistics evidence conclusively linked the incidents above (172 RT 20034-52.) He also testified that a recovered Jennings .22-caliber semi-automatic pistol was positively compared to the Doi case (172 RT 20061.) Robinson was the last of three law enforcement firearms examiners to evaluate the general rifling characteristics of the ballistics evidence. Yet the two other examiners, who did not reach entirely the same conclusions, were not called to testify at trial, because they did not have the answer wanted by the prosecution.  For example, in the report prepared by Robert Christansen on March 28, 1985, he concluded that due to distortions of the .22-caliber bullet in the Okazaki case, no positive comparison can be made to the Yu case. In the Kneiding case, firearms examiner Hawkins found there was 60% mutilation of an expended bullet but identified the bullet as having been fired from the same firearm as the bullets fired in the Yu case. This finding raises questions about the reliability of the testing.”

Writ of Habeas Corpus, page 634
Jennings .22 semi-automatic, a small silver-coloured gun. More information on the chain of custody of the Jennings, the one they lost can be found HERE

A point of interest is that the Netflix documentary, the sensationalised and often factually incorrect, “Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer“, when discussing the Jennings, inexplicably show a completely different weapon. The gun they show is a revolver, a black double-action Colt Police Positive, all photographed up to look like evidence.

Colt double-action revolver. Not a Jennings semi-automatic.
They seemed to have lost the .22 semi-automatic. How careless of them, but apparently, it didn’t matter. How did they manage to lose it?

Not the Avias again!

Shoeprint impressions were discovered in only eight incidents, and as shown in this post, false evidence regarding shoeprint impressions was knowingly presented to the jury. A full breakdown of shoeprint evidence is given in the previously mentioned post within this blog, please read it as to include it again here would be repetition. 

“I mean that is – you know, you are not allowed to make up evidence, and that is one of the rules”

(Prosecution statement in trial transcripts, taken from the Federal Writ of Habeas Corpus)

Shamefully, that is exactly what they did, as shown HERE and also HERE.

Prosecutor Phil Halpin, photo from LA Public Library.

At NO point was the shoe size of Richard Ramirez even mentioned, or determined, during his trial. No proof that Richard even owned a pair of Avia shoes ever materialised either, just some ridiculous fiction about him chucking his “phantom sneakers” off the Golden Gate Bridge.  Which no one saw him do. 


Summary re: Lack of Distinctive Pattern.

Below is a chart showing how the prosecution tried to link the crimes into a pattern, which there never was.  Law enforcement made a big deal out of repeatedly saying that the pattern was there was no pattern, see?  That way they could make a link out anything, it didn’t matter whether it was real or imagined.

from the Writ of Habeas Corpus, ex 40, declaration of Steve Strong

With that in mind, let’s look at each incident where we can see there really wasn’t anything viable to link these crimes together or even to show that one person committed them, or that the one person was Richard Ramirez. 

Distorted, dusty bullets, do not show who pulled the trigger!

  • Vincow
  • No fingerprints belonging to Richard found inside apartment
  • No property stolen or recovered
  • Wounds not unique
  • Could have been committed by more than one person
  • Location: Los Angeles City
  • Hernandez/Okazaki
  • No fingerprints found inside or on doors of residence
  • Unidentified fingerprints found, not Richard’s
  • No property taken
  • Wounds not unique
  • No weapon found or recovered from Richard
  • Location: Rosemead
  • Yu
  • No fingerprints found in recovered stolen car
  • Wounds not unique
  • No property taken
  • No weapon found or recovered from Richard
  • No apparent motive
  • Location: Monterey Park
  • Zazzara
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Unidentified prints were found not to belong to Richard
  • Exact model or size of Avia shoeprint not determined
  • No weapon found or recovered from Richard
  • No property recovered
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Whittier
  • Doi
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Exact model or size of Avia shoeprint not determined
  • Wounds not unique
  • No inventory of property stolen from earlier burglary was done
  • Trail of stolen property not investigated or questioned
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Monterey Park
  • Bell/Lang
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Exact model or size of Avia shoeprint not determined
  • Scene disorganised, multiple shoe impressions
  • Hair found at scene did not belong to Richard
  • Wounds not unique
  • No weapon traced to Richard
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Monrovia
  • Kyle
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Kyle gave inconsistent statements regarding identification
  • Trail of property not questioned
  • Location: Burbank
  • Cannon
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Model and size of Avia shoeprint not determined
  • Wounds not unique
  • Hair found at the scene not Richard’s
  • Blood found on the mitten and lamp, not Richard’s
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Arcadia

(I will interject here to say that prosecution failed to preserve important blood evidence or to try and determine just who bled on that lamp. and tried to stem the flow with the mitten! Someone cut themselves during that horrific attack, that someone was shown not to be Richard. Unless he was capable of bleeding someone else’s blood)

  • Bennett
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Scene disorganised
  • Hair found at scene inconclusive
  • Blood found not Richard’s or Bennett’s. Someone cut themselves again, that someone was not Richard. Both Richard and Bennett were blood group O, the unidentified blood was from group A.
  • No property recovered
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Two types of shoe print on her comforter. One, the obligatory Avia print, size and model undetermined. The other had a herringbone pattern, brand and size not known.
  • Location: Sierra Madre
  • Nelson
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • Exact model and size of Avia shoeprint not determined
  • Hair found at the scene did not belong to Richard
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Monterey Park
  • Dickman
  • No fingerprints belonging to Richard
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Location: Monterey Park
  • Kneiding
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • No weapons found or recovered from him
  • Hair found at the scene did not belong to Richard
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Glendale
  • Khovananth  
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • No gloves found or recovered from Richard that matched impressions.
  • No weapon found or recovered.
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Hair found at scene not Richard’s
  • Location: Sun Valley
  • Petersen
  • No fingerprints found belonging to Richard
  • No weapon found or recovered from him
  • No property taken
  • Location: Northridge
  • Abowath
  • No fingerprints belonging to Richard
  • No weapon found or recovered from him
  • Trail of stolen property not questioned
  • Semen from vaginal swab not Richard’s, and not her husband’s
  • Semen on bedsheets inconclusive
  • Location: Diamond Bar
  • Uncharged Incident
  • Model and size of Avia shoe impression not determined
  • Could have been more than one person
  • Location: Monrovia

Now We’re Reaching

“In nine incidents (Zazzara, Doi, Bell/Lang, Cannon, Bennett, Nelson, Khovananth, Abowath, and the uncharged case), trial counsel failed to challenge or refute the testimony of the prosecution’s unqualified, inexperienced shoe print witness. In eight incidents, ballistics evidence went unchallenged. The testimony of the prosecution’s firearms expert attempted to link the Okazaki homicide to those of Yu and Kneiding; attempted to link the Zazzara homicide to the Khovananth incident; attempted to link a Jennings semi-automatic pistol that fires .22-caliber long-rifle ammunition to the Doi case; and attempted to link the Petersen and Abowath incidents. Defence counsel failed to competently challenge this evidence”

from the Writ of Habeas Corpus

Of course, they failed to challenge the evidence and inexplicably made it worse, if that were possible.

“I didn’t have any evidence to prove that it was a different gun, therefore you didn’t hear any.  I certainly would have brought it in if I had, you could rest assured of that.”

Writ of Habeas Corpus, page 418
Daniel Hernandez, right, with Richard Salinas, 1988, from The Herald Examiner Collection.

Perhaps, if you’d given the firearms expert the evidence he requested, you’d have had the evidence you needed for the rebuttal.  Just a thought.  What a fool.

There was significant evidence to show that the offences were not all linked to one another, enough to create reasonable doubt and yet Richard Ramirez was convicted on dodgy physical and ballistics evidence, the unreliable testimony of a “fence” (who was impeached for perjury) and inconsistent eyewitnesses, who could not decide if Richard was tall, short, Asian, white, Hispanic, who may have been blond with bad teeth, or perhaps straight white ones.


Conclusion of Steve Strong, or a lesson in serial blunders..

Declaration of Steve Strong, doc 7-20, from the Writ of Habeas Corpus

One more step along in the railroading of Richard Ramirez, a series of catastrophic blunders, where his defence counsel conceded ballistic and shoeprint evidence, whilst simultaneously arguing that there was no pattern.

This case never fails to disappoint in its sheer disregard for the truth and the violation of rights.  The prosecution improperly relied on inaccurate and unreliable evidence, urging on the jury the significance of such “evidence”, knowing it was incorrect, and using emotive language as it tried to forge links that just weren’t there.

“‘The prosecutor compared less sensational murders, such as the Yu incident to more sensational murders which involved mutilation: “So you didn’t have the mutilation [in Okazaki] that you had in a number of these other cases, but certainly very cold-blooded, deliberate act and inexcusable. . .. March 17 also, the murder of Ms. Yu out on the street . . .. Another terrible act again with no time to mutilate. ‘”

From the Writ of Habeas Corpus, transcript of the prosecution.

There was no link but using the phrase “no time to mutilate” in addressing the jury had the purpose of imprinting a connection between random and unrelated crimes.

A competent defence team should have challenged on all counts, but they did not, having neither experience nor proper preparation.  Which culminated in Richard being forever branded a serial murderer and receiving the death penalty multiple times. 

“Those who plead their cause in the absence of an opponent can invent to their heart’s content, can pontificate without taking into account the opposite point of view, and keep the best arguments for themselves. For aggressors are always quick to attack those who have no means of defence.”

Christine de Pizan

It is painfully obvious there was no defence for Richard Ramirez.

~ Jay ~

38 responses to “Serial Delusions”

  1. Amazing job at breaking this complex crime scene evidence down. I’ve often wondered how Richard could have gotten from crime scene to crime scene without cross transferral of the victims blood, hair, etc. And how he never seemed to leave a trace of forensic evidence in the stolen vehicles he allegedly used when committing the crimes? That he was able to leave someone elses hair, blood and semen at crime scenes is astounding! Oh and that he had the wherewithal to commit a heinous crime, drive to the Cecil, clean up and head back out for more murder and mayhem, well, he must have been some sort of supervillian! At least, that’s what law enforcement would have us believe. That this young man with a serious drug addiction and serious mental health issues ,that could barely take care of himself, could pull off all these crimes. When you start to break down the evidence, this case falls apart rapidly! LAPD found the perfect fall guy for the nightstalker crimes in Richard Ramirez. What they did is revolting! The more I learn about the evidence, the more ridiculous the story becomes. It would be laughable if it hadn’t destroyed a young man’s life!

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  2. Something that annoys me is the jurors responses. “Oh we knew his defence was bad and the trial unfair, but voted death anyway..” That’s paraphrasing, but you know what I mean. Just what was going on in that court room?
    As for cross contamination, the 20th July incidents are the ones that stand out for me. It is impossible for one man to inflict so much damage at one, without leaving traces at the other. Unless he dipped himself in bleach, and even then..
    Richard, as you know, would not be straight headed enough to forensically clean down himself and the car, inbetween. The more you look, the less sense it makes.
    Thank you for reading and for your comment.

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  3. […] use it to kill Lela and Maxon Kneiding and Chainarong Khovananth on 20th July? As was discussed in this post, Richard was accused of using two completely different guns on the same night for those […]

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  4. […] against him, Richard had been left practically undefended. (An example of which can be seen in Serial Delusions) With Arturo ceasing to even attend court, being fined for being held in contempt, for saying he […]

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  5. […] used, along with ballistics to link the crimes together. More information can be found in Serial Delusions and The Wrong […]

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  6. […] a paedophile kidnapping situation and a violent double murder are very different crimes. There is no Modus Operandi here. There is no good reason to connect these attacks, regardless of a shoeprint and some bad line […]

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  7. […] a paedophile kidnapping situation and a violent double murder are very different crimes. There is no Modus Operandi here. There is no good reason to connect these attacks, regardless of a shoeprint and some bad line […]

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  8. […] charges against him, Richard had been left practically undefended. (An example of which can be seen in THIS post) With Arturo ceasing to even attend court, being fined for being held in contempt, for saying he […]

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  9. […] used, along with ballistics to link the crimes together. More information can be found in in this post and also in this […]

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  10. […] in the same way as Jennie Vincow. Richard Ramirez is the only serial killer in history whose modus operandi is ‘not having a modus operandi’. None of the Night Stalker attacks demonstrated any kind of […]

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  11. […] own experts to give evidence, such as Lisa DiMeo, Forensic Specialist in shoe-print impressions, Paul Dougherty, firearms expert, who they did hire, but then didn’t provide him with the evidence he needed, […]

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  12. […] did Richard’s defense do with the information presented by the prosecution regarding the ballistics evidence? If you guessed absolutely nothing, you would be […]

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  13. […] to give the expert witness the material he needed to do his job.  Yes, as I have mentioned before, counsel for defence did not furnish the expert firearms examiner with the evidence, and so, they […]

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  14. […] so-called pattern-there was no pattern, nothing that stands out as one person committing all of the “Nightstalker” crimes. […]

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  15. […] have had time to drive to a hotel, wash up and put on clean clothes. He would have arrived at the Khovananth’s with blood on him, and there would likely have been blood and biological evidence from the Kneiding crime in his […]

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  16. […] Strong, a crime scene analyst, reviewed all of the night stalker crimes and noted there was no distinctive pattern. This is what he said about the Zazzara […]

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  17. […] In our previous posts we have shown how expert witnesses, retained by the habeas lawyers, examined the shoe print and ballistics evidence. Where the evidence presented by the prosecution was inaccurate and misleading.  Please read the articles to avoid unnecessary repetition, but as a brief recap, the Avia prints were not unique and the firearms expert, in his declaration, advised that the ballistic evidence was faulty and needed retesting. […]

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  18. […] Denial of motion to sever charges […]

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  19. […] weak, so the reliance on the ballistics was paramount. Law enforcement emphasised the lack of modus operandi throughout their investigations, but the State needed to prove that there were links and […]

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  20. […] 35-page report. Ramirez was found guilty, and in the eyes of Anne Evans, there were no grounds for reasonable doubt doubt. Her perception of his lack of remorse and “bizarre and psychotic” ranting, including (in […]

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  21. it’s seems at tho they were just looking for any excuse to blame Richard or show that “monster” if I recall correctly I read somewhere that Richard felt disgusted when he heard one of the victims talk about her rape or something then told Gil “that’s not me what a bastard” in a way that to me looks like remorse

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    1. Oh yeah, the only time Gil is believable TBH. He said something like “Richard said ‘This is sick.” about the idea that he sexually assaulted Sophie Dickman.

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      1. True, then gil said something like “he’s a sick sick man”

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      2. Also I’m curious about something if I may ask

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      3. We might not have the answer, but ask away.

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      4. It’s totally ok if you don’t have the answer but seeing you try at least means a lot and shows you care so thank you.

        Ok as Richard was incompetent to join in on his trial is it possible to allow someone like to help him so someone that would do it for him stand trial and just say what Richard would say based on what Richard told them? Idk much about court life just curious cuz he wasn’t at all able to stand trial which is really sad so he wasn’t able to defend himself

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      5. Richard DID stand trial, what he didn’t do was take the stand, which he didn’t have to under law. According to the a news report he actually took the stand only once, and that was to deny that he had ever confessed, although that is not in the petition and we only have the news report. What he couldn’t do was rationally assist his lawyers in his defence, he couldn’t help prepare his case, nor understand fully the nature of the proceedings against him. A “proxy” would be able to take his place, I am pretty certain that the law doesn’t work like that.

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      6. Ohh ok I see now! It’s so confusing but ok I got it now thank you

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      7. First Touch – The Vicary Report, September 1985


        This may help you to understand “incompetency” in a trial situation.

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      8. Yes I should! Thank you! So much!

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      9. He had a rudimentary understanding of the charges, and proceedings but not enough to be of any help.
        Manuel Barraza, a lawyer connected to the Ramirez family (the one responsible for finding the Hernandezes) said this in his declaration:

        “It was my observation and belief that Mr Ramirez seemed not to understand at all the seriousness of the circumstances he was in, or the need for his assistance in developing a defence. It was difficult to communicate with him on any level, and it was impossible to strategize with Mr Ramirez. His thoughts were widely scattered.”

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      10. Ok I understand a bit now! It seemed to me that one really was caring enough to Richard to tell him what’s going on unless Richard knowing him he’s always ruining it for himself no one cared to should his brain damage and that shouldn’t have been hidden! Richard was seriously a child in a mans body he needed more attention and especially more assistance

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      11. Also with Richard having no history of ever rapping or sexually assaulting any women cuz any women he has been with seems to only say good things about him and their relationships, like he was gentle lover never pushed me or forced me etc…..

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  22. it just makes me so mad that the lies keeping coming and people defending those lies and refuse to hear the truth and believe that the truth is the one that’s a lie! Idk why people aren’t just freely able to just talk about this case it’s super important every single thing you pointed out all 3 of you. I mean wouldn’t it be nice to catch the really rapist and killer?! Cuz the more I read and understand this case there is truly super high reasonable doubt for Richard! And that someone else committed those crimes! It’s really stressing me out the shit that’s still going on even after he’s died! Comments get deleted and stuff I tried a while ago to post your link to this blog on YouTube video so people can read your blog but deleted or wouldn’t post. It’s really important that people know these things Ik like Jay told me once that once a people have their mind set about the story or something it’s hard to change their minds but still!

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    1. I don’t think you can post links of YouTube comments, we’ve had a lot deleted before.

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      1. It really sucks! Also did you have that comment deleted I remember you commented helping someone understand?

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  23. I can say that I’m very confused after reading this article. All the names I have read so far were seemingly those of victims who were associated with Richard being the perpetrator. Now I’m seeing that there was no evidence at all! A complete shock. Were there no other murders proven to have been committed by him? He was making interviews to people who define him as serial killer and acting as if he was almost proud of it. Does having no connection to any crime indicate that he was very talented or very innocent? How could he not be the perpetrator of any murder? I haven’t been able to read every article yet. I apologize if I’m asking about something you’ve already mentioned. Thank you for the response.

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    1. Hello, the case is incredibly complicated, and I would urge you to start at the beginning with the “LA Crimes” section and go from there. Much was hidden from the public, and we don’t tell you what to think, any conclusions must be your own. You are welcome to ask questions as you read, and although we don’t pretend to have all the answers, we will do our best to help. As will the others who participate here.

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