The Devoted Son

After months of persistent efforts to obtain documents from the LA Archives and Record Center regarding Richard’s case, we finally received hundreds of pages of transcripts from the preliminary hearing. However, it was a small fraction of what we are seeking, as we received a limited number of documents from 1985 and 1986. Nonetheless, within those transcripts, we uncovered interesting information that sheds light on the relationship between Jack Vincow and his mother, Jennie.

The day Jennie Vincow was brutally murdered, she was found lying in bed, with her feet toward the headboard, dressed in what appeared to be a nightgown. A blanket was lying on top of her, partially tucked around her, covering her body up to the lower portion of her neck. The medical examiner, Lawrence Cogan, reported that she had suffered multiple stab wounds to her body and a deep slash wound to her neck. Several of the wounds she suffered had the potential to be fatal on their own. Cogan also emphasized the significance of the stab wounds being located on the front of her body, indicating that the assailant and victim were likely in a face-to-face position when the wounds were inflicted.

By all available accounts, including the 2008 Federal Habeas Corpus Petition and various contemporary news reports, Jack Vincow was portrayed as a devoted and loving son who was deeply attentive to his mother, Jennie. However, the court transcripts from March 4 and March 5, 1986, reveal some interesting findings that contradict the widely accepted portrayal of Jack as a caring son.

Appearance of Jennie Vincow’s living room the day she was found murdered

Jack Vincow was reportedly a caring and attentive son who visited his mother daily. Yet, the condition of Jennie’s apartment on the tragic day of her death raises questions about the image of Jack as a caring son and contrasts sharply with the portrayal of filial devotion. When LAPD officers arrived at the scene on June 28, 1984, they found the apartment in a disarray. It was assumed that whoever had murdered Jennie had ransacked the home in search of valuables. However, the condition of the apartment indicated much more than mere ransacking. In Jennie’s bedroom was a chest of drawers; four drawers were pulled out, with clothing both hanging out of the drawers and strewn across the floor. The contents of a brown vinyl purse were spilled on the floor, and various items were randomly placed on top of the dresser, including two pairs of shoes and toiletries. Papers were also scattered across the floor. The kitchen table was cluttered with an assortment of items, including two Soup bowls (discussed in a previous post), several boxes of cereal, Styrofoam cups, soup cans, and a plastic dish. Upon inspecting the refrigerator, officers found it “very dirty and filthy,” with several open cans of soup and rotting food, causing a foul stench. The condition of the refrigerator led Detective Jessie Castillo to express disbelief that anyone could continue to use it in such a state. Several LAPD officers described the home as overall “unkempt, very dirty, and filthy,” indicating it was in a deplorable state and appeared to have been in that condition for a long time.

Jack claimed he was “very close to his mother.” Would a devoted son allow his elderly mother to live among filth and rotting food? The harsh reality of Jennie’s living situation stands in stark contrast to the image of Jack as a caring son who was involved in his mother’s care, undermining his credibility.

Was Jennie’s murder an example of “overkill”? Overkill refers to the excessive trauma inflicted on a victim that goes beyond what is necessary to cause death. Some homicide investigators argue that the presence of overkill indicates a crime of passion and suggests a connection between the perpetrator and the victim. Additionally, the act of covering a body may indicate that the perpetrator had a relationship with the victim and was remorseful. Jennie suffered multiple wounds, several of which could have been fatal on their own. She was discovered in bed, covered and “tucked in” with a blanket, suggesting the presence of overkill in the brutality of her murder.

KayCee

38 responses to “The Devoted Son”

  1. That poor woman, living and dying amongst her rotting food.

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    1. It’s terrible. Maybe the weren’t a family that cared about cleanliness in the home. But the rotting food, that’s a health hazard.

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  2. So , when she was found , the severe wounds could not be seen , because she was covered with a blanket ? Up to half the neck ? Was there blood on the floor ? And she lay in the bed with her head where normally are the feet ?

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    1. Detective Castillo was the first homicide investigator on the scene. He reported there was a “great amount” of blood on the bed, the ceiling, and the side walls. He stated that he also found blood in the bathroom and living room. In the preliminary hearing he described how he and his partner walked around the victim, not touching anything, while awaiting the coroner’s arrival. Considering the neck wound was a deep, slash type he may have seen a portion of the neck wound since the blanket was at the lower part of her neck. However, he does not state that he saw any of the wounds before the coroner arrived. After the coroner arrived, the blanket was removed and the wounds assessed. All of the stab wounds were located on her chest, abdomen, and neck so wouldn’t have been visible until the blanket was removed. And yes Jennie was found in bed with her head at the foot of the bed and her feet at the top of the bed.

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      1. Yes , then the killer did put the blanket over her , so the wounds couldnt be seen. When it was Richard why would he do this ?? I didnt know that . The way Richard was described in the other crimes he would nt care about putting a blanket over her . He just would have left the place as it is.

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      2. It’s weird. Some bodies were covered and some not. I just found out that Maxine Zazzara was covered as well as Chainarong Khovananth. But the beating victims were just left face down.

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      3. I can see that Maxine would be after the horrific things done to her.

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      4. Killer was probably thinking about the expression on the face of the poor individual discovering the covered victim, then lifting the sheet. That bastard was sending a message. But who was supposed to receive it?

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  3. Great find. Would love to know if Jack’s apartment was in any better shape. So many signs of Jack being the prime suspect, and yet the detectives acted as if it could be anyone.

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    1. Me too. I wonder if he lived in squalor or just allowed his mother to? I would also like to know if he had a solid alibi.

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  4. It’s the “tucking her in” that everybody ignored that got to me.

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    1. Right! Never heard of that before.

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  5. Very weird that some bodies were covered and some were not ….what does it mean ?? Its really good you were able to obtain more of the transcript ! Was it difficult to get that ? Do they give out only certain parts of it, or is it possible to get hold of everthing It makes me curious ..and some day they might destroy everything ?!

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    1. There’s thousands of pages, so we have to be precise with what we want. Some are sealed, but we’re trying.

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      1. Yes its amazing ! Thanks so much .

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      2. I wrote to the Texas DoCJ, but had no luck there. They told me they had no records. That might be because he was a juvenile when getting into trouble in Texas, so they wouldn’t release those anyway.

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      3. Ah yeah ..Great job done anyway !

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    2. Supposedly if the body is covered it’s likely the killer knew the victim. It’s been difficult to get documents. They are reluctant to hand anything over. And they exclude certain volumes without giving a reason. Hence we only received documents from 85 and 86.

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      1. Any time there is a cover-up, make no mistake about it, that’s exactly what this is, there are ALWAYS things that are held back, kept secret, “lost” or redacted from the record. The record is sealed. And, let’s never fool ourselves into believing we were ever told one word of truth from day One.

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  6. Yes ….tucked in ..this expression is soo very weird . Tucked in ?? I d like to see that . ..Plus , some bodies were covered, others not . True crime says that , by doing this , either the suspect knew the victim and feels shame , or just hides it for hiding . We ll never know !

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  7. great find and investigation, this case makes so much more sense to me now. It truly is weird how hav claimed he was good with his mom and very close to her yet her living condition says otherwise!

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    1. I remember reading in Carlo that he used to take her out for drives and bring her chicken nuggets as a treat or something. All the while, her fridge is full of mouldy soup. It makes me wonder about the state of Jack’s house.

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      1. Same here if jacks house let’s say were to be clean nest etc… wouldn’t his mothers house be as well especially since he claimed to be close to her? The way he bring out him self seems to me to be a cover up for something and it his refusal to take a that lying test thing (sorry forgot the name) all of seems suspicious to me.

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      2. It was probably filthy, too.

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      3. Skidded undies all around the bedroom.

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      4. And Philip Carlo invents things here too ! : The nice son took her out for rides and brought her some favourite treats sometimes . I remember that too ..shortly after that I stopped reading the Carlo book… because of the kitschy style.

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      5. Can you imagine if he’d told the truth?
        “Jack let his old ma fester in her rancid apartment, surrounded by rotting food.”
        He should have. The truth is far more outrageous. That poor lady, ending her days like that.
        Carlo loved to spin a line.

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      6. Sometimes reading it makes me laugh because it’s so exaggerated and stupid. I can see why people find it compelling but it’s full of crap!

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      7. Yes ..can t get over the Carlo book . So many people seem to really be fascinated by it , for a while ..! Its because Carlo pretends to know everything , and he suceeds in giving the reader a feeling he also knows Richards hidden secrets, even his private sex problems , without condemning him too much . ( just as much as is requiered ) . Weird !

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      8. I always see people recommending it like it’s this amazing bible of all things Ramirez.

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  8. How is it going with your book ? Have you got an idea when you will finish it ? Its 4 parts , if I remember correctly . Maybe next year ?

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    1. I think one will be out this year. It’s finished and just needs some editing, a cover and a blurb. I’ve been working on the second book this evening…

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      1. Very good ! Wil you make it public on You Tube ? I think you will .

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      2. Probably not. I use Instagram for book promotion stuff instead.

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  9. I have another question . Its about the different methods of investigations . Maybe you know more than me , because I don t know very much about this subject . I have read a bit in the book by David Macghowan . There is a difference when they investigate in a normal murdercase to the investigation of a serial murder case. I wrote in a former post that I assume they just let some things out . It has to do with joining I think . Do they put more accent to the behavioural aspects of the suspect ? Is there something like generalisation ? I dont really know how to express this . But I guess you know what I mean. In the end its often about the ” probability ” that a certain person commited the crime . ( when they have mainly just circumstancial evidents) This is a good question for law students , haha…

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    1. Are you referring to the use of profilers and experts, like Steve Strong?

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  10. Yes . I know Steve Strong thought that this case was nt a series , as the crimes weren t really connected . I read a little about 2 serial killer cases in Germany. And how they were trying to find matches with unkown victims etc. I found that quite random , and there are questions too. . But ..this can get too complicated . Only police knows what they do , it seems . In Richards case its 100 % frustrating .

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