Second Edition – Sort Of

By Venning

I’ve made some edits to The Appeal of the Night Stalker. It’s not enough to qualify as a true second edition – those require at least 10% of the content to be substantially changed – but there are a few important corrections worth noting.

Recently, we watched Beware the Night Stalker (Fox Nation, 2019), which, like most Ramirez documentaries, was overly dramatic and riddled with inaccuracies. But ironically, it helped expose a major error – one that originated with the 2021 Netflix series.

In Episode 1 of the Netflix show, two police sketches are shown side by side: one of the child abductor (left) and the other from the Hernandez-Okazaki case (right). The implication is that the sketches look similar.

We disagree – but that’s not the real problem. What matters is that Netflix showed the wrong sketch altogether.

While researching for the book, I uncovered old Los Angeles Times articles that featured a completely different composite sketch of the child abductor, pictured below:

Later on the Netflix documentary, they showed another child abductor sketch that also appeared in the Los Angeles Times:

Netflix


While watching the Fox documentary, I spotted that same sketch – this time in better quality. This time you can see the suspect was obviously blonde (I already updated this in the book in April).

I had always wondered why the first Netflix sketch was never shown in the abduction newspaper articles. Watching the Fox documentary, I soon found out why: it showed that it came from surviving victim Lillie Doi.

At first, I thought this might be simple misinformation – Netflix previously showed the wrong pistol for the Doi incident, after all. But then I noticed something important: a case number at the bottom of the sketch image:
85-3601. This code and the writing that says “for Monterey Park” and “light brown short hair” had been cropped out on Netflix.

I did some detective work and checked the affidavit (document 7.4) and discovered that 85-3601 was the crime number for the Doi attack. It’s not very clear but you can see it below.

This is significant because we had believed the Doi sketch was lost. We’d written about Ramirez’s lawyers showing the sketch in court and arguing that it didn’t resemble him, but until now, we’d never seen the image ourselves. This new discovery not only confirms what the defence claimed but also serves as another reminder not to take documentaries at face value.

Jay will update the Doi article with the correct sketch, and this correction is hopefully already reflected in the book update – sometimes it takes a while for new editions to process. I don’t expect everyone to buy a new copy – most of the book remains unchanged – but I do want to be transparent.

Newer copies only have the main title on the spine, not the entire subtitle. So you know you have a newer one if it looks like this.

The Yu Case

Fox also presented new information relating to the Tsai-Lian Yu case that I’d never heard before. It came from the retired Monterey Park chief of police, Jon Elder, so it should be a legitimate source. Elder said that upon entry to Yu’s apartment, there was a Chinese spy acting “excited” and “agitated.” See the clip below.

Elder also stated that when they learned the bullets from the Yu case matched those from the Okazaki shooting, the case was handed over to LASD. We know the original firearms examiner wasn’t certain the bullets came from the same weapon, which makes it feel like the Yu case was absorbed into the Night Stalker narrative before it was fully understood.

In conclusion, I can’t stand sharing false information – even when it’s not my fault. I am angry that Netflix misled viewers with the wrong police sketch. I hope this revised edition helps set things straight. Thanks everyone for the continued support of our website and thanks to our commenter Vivi for recording the entire documentary series for me.

Our friend has also made a video about the new composite sketch on the Sataysandmash YouTube channel.

20 responses to “Second Edition – Sort Of”

  1. I want to jump first to the Yu incident which sent us down yet another rabbit hole. An excitable Chinese spy found at a murder victim’s home is extraordinary, and yet brushed aside as they hurried to hand the case over to LASD because of the Hernandez/Okazaki incident occurring on the same night four miles away, even though the eyewitnesses reported a completely different perpetrator and they could not match the bullets.
    The newspapers described Tsai-Lian Yu as a student, but here Monterey Police call her a news reporter. Was she working part time to fund her way through college? Only in the Night Stalker case could a spy be brushed aside and never referred to again. Weird.
    As for the Lillie Doi police sketch, what a revelation that was! Yet her description of the much older man with the light brown hair was soon discounted, like so many others.
    I also want to second what Venning has said, this is a small (but important) update, you’ve read it here, and I will add the sketch into the article about William and Lillie Doi. We are not suggesting you need to get another book; it isn’t necessary. We just knew we had to put the info out there for clarity and transparency.
    Spies and yet more madness. Oh, and why does Yolcheson always look so pleased with himself?

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    1. Yes, most of the book is the same as ever. I did also add some stuff from the archives back in October.

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        karina861b195d4

        That’s awesome. Can’t wait to one day read this. Seriously, the overwhelming amount of evidence that you guys have dug up and broken down into sizeable chunks for us to read and comprehend is already an astounding job, but to know there’s more to this case is frankly scary that this was allowed in the American Criminal Justice system and is still happening today is just.. concerning!!

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      2. It’s very scary. For a more recent demonstration of “‘justice”, look up a podcast called Cousins By Blood.

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  2. wooow just when you think it can’t get worse it always does! Great work you guys keep it up!

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  3. I just right saw the YouTube channel you guys told us about and they are doing amazing once again!

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    1. They do a really good job, don’t they?

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      1. Yes amazing job! And I love that they credit you guys not like the other one forgot the name you all do such amazing work and very nice of ViVi to record for you guys!

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  4. I think his satanism was part rebellion and part psychosis.
    I think most stories about Richard online are bullshit. Everyone has some tenuous claim to knowing or seeing him that can’t be proven. It’s made me sceptical of it all.

    I don’t know if I’ve seen every documentary, but I’ve seen a lot.

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    1. I agree. I also think his fondness for metal bands who used Satan as a ‘cool’ branding influenced him, and as Venning said, that’s all part of being rebellious.
      I am doubtful of any of the bull that’s written about him. There’s always someone to add to the horror.
      I’ve seen too many documentaries about him, again they’re full of holes.

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    karina861b195d4

    The term “creepy” is so subjective. Creepy does not mean guilty!
    Also, just trawling through Youtube I found another blog that Satays&Mash mentioned – https://questioningthenightstalker.substack.com/ It references a lot from this website. Pretty good. Good that more and more people are starting to become aware of the RailRoading of this case. I mean.. 20yrs later is better than never!

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    1. Being “creepy” and breathing seems to be enough for some. We know that blog, it’s really good and we’re happy that they promote our site. We’ve discussed opening up on Substack (still keeping this one) but that would be a huge task, although it does make sense to have a backup, just in case.

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        karina861b195d4

        Yeh that would be cool, to have this on Substack as well. Definitely keep this one, I think a bit of a community has been built and I really like it! A community of likeminded people on here, which I love…The comments section is the best part. It’s so refreshing to hear people’s thoughts on here.

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      2. It’s on our “to do” list but this site will stay because we like it and the little community we have here.

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  6. We don’t have it in the UK or any European Union country.

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    karina861b195d4

    We don’t have it here in Australia, but I remember Ramirez talking about capital punishment in an interview .. that it’s better to leave it to the victim’s families to decide and not leave it up to the Government. What are your thoughts on this?

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    1. Victim’s families want to see justice served and sometimes (understandably) revenge, and with it, a kind of closure. I don’t believe in the death penalty for the reason that mistakes are made and innocent people die.
      Even one wrongful execution is one to many, and for that reason, I would rather not see it. I have thankfully never been in such an excruciating position of having a loved one murdered, and so my opinion is just that; an opinion based on the many failures of the judicial system.
      The appeals system is supposed to overcome the mistakes but it doesn’t.
      It is clearly not a deterrent, either.

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  8. I often thought about the Catholic belief in the Ramirez family , and then I immediately felt a bit sorry for Richard . Back in the 70 ties or 80 ties beeing in puberty with all the new and wild rockmusic turning up and all the other temptations of that time…In contrast to this the strict Catholic belief in combination to the Mexican heritage of the Ramirez family , this was a good reason to be rebellious. Plus many rockbands had this childish faible for Satan at that time ..it was such a joke when I think about it today . But ..to me its easy to imagine 17or 18 year old Richie drifting into the occult , just for rebellion . Then I also think about Mercedes speaking only Spanish..Not the best basics to deal with a quite wild and young and curious Richie.

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