Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

The book is out! You can buy the ebook in the following links:

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It should be on all of Amazon worldwide.

And the paperback is here (although they might still be unavailable in some countries – check back in a few days. They can take a while to show up!)

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We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    They took away his glasses ? As a punishment ? OMG I hate that they ve done things like that !!!

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    1. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      they basically tortured Richard! How sick are these people I can’t believe they did that to RR as if he wasn’t suffering enough!

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    2. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      In their eyes he was no longer a human being. He was a murderer and rapist. Not human. I know in maximum security prisons you have to be tough emotionally and mentally because often times the prisoners that you work with are actually responsible of heinous crimes. But that does not justify being a dispassionate ass! Like what the hell did he do to get his glasses taken away?!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I never knew that happened to him till you guys mentioned it omg! Do you know how pissed I am this is going way too far taking his glasses like that?!

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  2. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    they just can’t except that yes he did have serious mental health problems, they just yes want a psycho bad boy and that’s basically the image Richard pretended to have showed in court to impress the women and especially hide his true self and feelings even tho that image of him that he pretended to show the bad boy psycho isn’t who he really is! but he just wanted to show off for the ladies.

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  3. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I understand it must have been challenging for Julian Sr. to learn English and work toward his GED due to the nature of his work. But do you think Mercedes might have had the same opportunity? It could’ve opened up more opportunities for her and the children. I empathize with Richard and his siblings, having parents who didn’t speak English and lacked formal education. It adds an extra layer of difficulty on top of the already immense challenge of adjusting to life in a new country, especially for the children.

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    1. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Yes , the lack of education is a basic problem I guess ..and you see this in their conservative to really oldfashioned attitude ..Plus the beatings ..Boys who grow up in such a surrounding can not really respect the parents..Plus the Chaos and Not Monitoring the Kids…But in spite of all this , it was FAMILY !

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Sometimes, I wonder if I’m overestimating the opportunities and resources the Ramirez family might have had access to. Beyond what’s mentioned in the Writs and Carlo’s book, there’s very little concrete information, and we have to remember that the family’s account may contain biases. Still, I can’t help but think there must have been at least a few solutions available that could’ve helped them mitigate—or even eliminate—some of the challenges they faced. I’m not saying it would’ve been easy; they undoubtedly would have struggled more than most. But perhaps they wouldn’t have had to endure so much pain and suffering if certain opportunities had been pursued or if they had received more support.

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I think it was Jane Wells who said that charities and help existed but they never pursued it, apart from Ignacio getting help from the Lion’s Club. But I bet it was suggested to them by the hospital and not sought out by the parents.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Do you think it was a case of them simply not being informed about the opportunities available, or could it have been a mix of pride and distrust in the services provided by organizations and the government that held them back from pursuing them? Maybe it was a combination of both?

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        VenningB

        Both, probably!

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  4. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes I know that , and he was really good at that ! What a great Performance ! But at first I did not know what to think about that… This behaviour at court irritated so many people ! And this way he suddenly had Lots of Fans but also so many enemies!

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  5. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I m listening to Motley Crue s Wild Side…right now .Do you happen to know that Song.? The lyrics of WILD SIDE are a bit questionable ! Motley and Crue ..one of Richards favorite band !

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      I always feel Deep Purple’s “Soldier of Fortune” is also incredibly apt.

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  6. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I never got to say thank you to you 3 (Jay venning Kaycee) for answering all of our questions and continuously engaging with us! It’s super fun talking with you 3 and everyone else here you brought a great group together and you guys will always be the best and #1 investigators!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      We like talking about the case and try to get here as much as we can to talk with you all.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        That’s amazing and very kind of you guys! Thank you once again!

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  7. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes . they are nt nice people . Some of them are into SM ..and they want him as their Master. Thats a form of abuse too. I really don t understand these women . I wish they d stop this . It s really annoying. Hypocrits

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    1. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      these women seek too much attention they want this monster this bad boy psycho they ignore the fact that he was mentally not ok at all they too were brainwashed by media and cops etc.. their want to ignore the important facts and focus on a bad boy who honestly to me isn’t a bad boy just a super troubled guy seeking help not a monster just a guy that was lost and needed proper love and guidance. He was mentally unwell not a psycho. All those fan girls are a just all blinded and no matter what if you show them his medical records and reports they will fight back! crazy how they do that! They even say Richard had a very high IQ ummmm no he didn’t the poor guy had brain damaged etc….. which for sure possibly caused his IQ to decline as he grew!

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  8. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes , good lyrics and good Song by Deep Purple .. Just listened to it .

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  9. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    And haha ..Das Modell by Rammstein Its good against Aggressions which I m feeling now . Its just so awful how Richard was treated …I really feel aggressive about all this .

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  10. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also is it ok if I ask your opinion on this other case I’m learning about?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Okay, sure!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Thank you so much!
        I’m the case in currently learning about is about the Mendendez brothers! What’s your opinion about this case?

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I don’t know enough about it to give a strong opinion, I would need to look at the files, not Netflix. Interestingly, though, Erik was seen by Dr William Vicary, who briefly saw Richard before his trial.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ahh fair fair! And oh really?! Is he a a very good qualified doctor you think?

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        William Vicary was (is? He may still be alive, I haven’t looked) a forensic psychologist. There’s a post about him on this blog.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I’ll have a read at it again then! Thank you very much!

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  11. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    look at the at they treated Richard bundy and Dahlmer!

    bundy was cross examining the witness. Bundy was even allowed sex with a women and had a kid with her while in prison omg!!
    dalhmer was given coffee and cigarettes and both were being talked to by people whom seem calm and just trying to get the facts from them!

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    1. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      I’m still wondering how the hell Bundy got a woman pregnant? I wouldn’t doubt that he would’ve had maximum security even during his trials. But then again he did escape two bloody times! So it maybe wasn’t hard for a woman to sneak in.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        That’s freaking crazy omg

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    2. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      I didn’t want to go there. But racism could be involved. There was and still is a negative stigma of Hispanics/Latinos in this country especially males.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I freaking hate racism I hate it so much! Why can’t we love all race?! I once had to deal with racism at school when I was just in 3rd grade I was just a kid!!! We are all equal and every race is unique and beautiful! Racism makes me super angry! What makes one race better than another?! Jeez

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        When you bring together people from diverse cultures, histories, beliefs, and languages, there’s often a tendency for groups to assert dominance, trying to prove that their way of life is superior. This dynamic can be seen in various aspects of society, including how individuals are treated within the justice system. When comparing how serial killers from different backgrounds were treated, especially white or Caucasian individuals versus those from minority groups, there seems to be a noticeable pattern of harsher treatment for people of color.

        From what I’ve learned, Richard didn’t initially display any signs of aggression or violence during his arrest. He didn’t resist and even gave his real name, yet he was subjected to harsh treatment and was denied many of his due process rights. Meanwhile, someone like Ted Bundy, who was convicted of equally if not more horrific crimes, was treated quite differently. In trial footage, Bundy appears without handcuffs or ankle chains, often dressed in suits or regular clothes rather than a prison jumpsuit. He was even allowed to walk up to the judge in some clips I saw, something unheard of in most cases, especially for someone accused of such serious crimes.

        I understand Bundy represented himself, but the level of leniency he received in court was unprecedented. Richard, on the other hand, may not have had access to professional clothes, or perhaps he didn’t know or care about the option to wear them, but the restraints and overall treatment suggest something deeper at play. I can’t help but feel there’s an undeniable element of racial bias in this. The disparities in how these two men were treated highlight the historical and systemic racism that has plagued the U.S. justice system for years. While these are my observations, they aren’t without basis. There is a long history of minorities facing significantly harsher treatment within the legal system, and Richard’s case appears to be no different.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        That’s messed up poor Richard

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  12. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    What do you guys think about Jason Moss? I have read excerpts of his book on Richard and other serial killers. But everything sounds so exaggerated.

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I’ve not read it. Is he the one who claimed Richard confessed to dislocated Asian girls fingers and he had basically no teeth and being bribed to talk with coke from the vending machine?

      If so, I remember seeing an argument about him where the hybristophiles said he had no motive to lie. Umm he was interviewing killers to excite people. Of course he had motive to exaggerate and lie. Alternatively Richard could have been edgelording and telling him bullshit for his book because he was bored. But is that in character for Richard? 🤔

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        People who get involved in that kind of business—especially those profiting from the stories of notorious criminals—often have every reason to exaggerate or fabricate details. The more terrifying or sensational they make these macabre “celebrities,” the more money they stand to make. There’s a natural human curiosity about the darker side of life, which fuels the demand for these kinds of stories. Personally, I don’t trust his accounts. Some of the graphic stories shared seem far too elaborate for Richard to have come up with on his own. To gain the trust of serial killers or their admirers, he likely had to play the part of an ideal victim or supporter, writing disturbing things to them just to establish a connection. So he already had disturbing thoughts flowing in his brain.

        I also suspect that he struggled with his own mental health, especially considering that he eventually took his own life. And maybe I sound like a Richard apologist again, but until those tapes or some other solid evidence is released, I’m not going to believe those claims. It’s too easy for people to sensationalize these figures for profit without considering the actual truth.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I tend to have a rather pessimistic view of human nature. I believe that, at our core, humans are naturally inclined toward immorality. When given the opportunity to gain something, many people will go to great lengths—even if it involves the destruction of someone else’s life—to achieve their goals. This case is a prime example of that opportunistic behavior.

        I think much of what we consider “moral” behavior is, in fact, just a response to societal expectations and the fear of consequences. We conform to these norms to fit into modern society, but if all restrictions were removed—laws, social expectations, the fear of punishment—I don’t doubt that many people would jump at the chance to act on their darker impulses.

        It seems to me that morality is often a facade, a way to avoid repercussions rather than an inherent quality of human nature. Maybe my perspective is skewed due to my own limited life experience, but from what I’ve observed, it feels as though humans are opportunistic at heart, acting in ways that benefit themselves first and foremost. It’s a cynical outlook, I know, and perhaps it will evolve as I experience more of life. But for now, this is how I see things.

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    2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      He was the worst of all. He lied to all the prisoners he wrote to and not just simple lies, but he created complex fake-personalities, fitting the characters of the prisoners. Richard he told that he was a Satanist and after he hadn’t written Richachard for a while he told him as an excuse that he was in jail for beating up his girlfriend and stuff like that. I believe that he also faked Richards drawings. There is a letter in which Richard writes that he remembers having made only 2 (the hands, I believe) of the 4 drawings, that Moss wanted to use in his book.

      However, if Moss lied to all his prison pen pals, why the hell should I believe him a single word? I don’t!

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        This!!

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I think he went to visit him in SQ as well. I saw a photo of them together. I wonder if Richard agreed to the book being written or if he was tricked as well. I think he was messed up in the head.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        People like Gacy were undoubtedly horrible, but there’s something deeply unsettling about fabricating falsehoods to make them seem even scarier. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but it’s not about defending them in any way. The issue is that when we turn these individuals into otherworldly monsters, we overlook an important truth: most of them were ordinary members of society who appeared normal in public, while secretly engaging in their horrific behaviors.

        By exaggerating or spreading falsehoods about them, we obscure the reality that these people often maintained a façade of normalcy. This distortion only fuels the misconception that we can easily identify dangerous individuals based on appearances or stereotypes. In reality, the most unsettling part is how closely they blend into the fabric of society—how their monstrous deeds coexist with the persona of an everyday neighbor or coworker.

        These so-called “authors” thrive on people’s fears and their fascination with the darker side of human nature. It baffles me how they can, in good conscience, sit down and fabricate stories or exaggerate these individuals’ crimes just to make a profit. Maybe I just have a strong moral compass, but I can’t wrap my head around how they can do this without considering the immense suffering of the victims of these serial killers.

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      4. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        My approach is pretty simple: Their verdicts said: life without parole or death. But nothing else. The verdicts didn’t say: Yeah, anyone and everyone can do with them whatever they want. Their verdicts didn’t turn them into guinea pigs.

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      5. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        People forging his drawings and letters to sell is just pathetic and sad. They call Richard a monster and yet still continue to profit off him. Hypocrites!

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      6. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        And he got 50 f**king $ for 4 drawings, for his permission to use them in Moss’ book. 10 in advance and 40 after sending back the permission. Richards answer was: “send the other 40$ cause I need them. “

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      7. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Yet another person taking advantage of a vulnerable person. I’m pretty sure prison/jails only provide a limited quantity of supplies to inmates. So he was probably desperate for that money and didn’t think of any of the repercussions of talking to Moss and sending the drawings. I often read in letters of him asking for money from penpals. He doesn’t demand it. But I can feel how desperate he was to survive.

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      8. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Writing letters and drawing were his “jobs”. He never demanded anything, but I think he probably would have stopped answering if he didn’t get anthing (money, stamps, stationery, copies, pictures, sexual content etc) from the other person. People might think that , if he had anything, it was a lot of time. But even in prison time is precious. He wrote in a letter that he got about 50 letters a week. That means he had to answer about 7 letters every day. That’s work! I think he usually had enough money , but probably not at any time. In that phonecall with Dickstein he said, that he didn’t need anything “Nah, I’m cool” and to one person he even sent money (I believe it were 50$) as a birthday gift. He also said he was a “businessman” . Yes, exactly. He knew how to “make money” (also somehow typical for drug addicts, they also have to “make money” all the time.) . I think he was used to that situation and knew to find ways to get what he needed. That doesn’t mean that it was easy for him, only that he already knew that kind of situations.

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        ~ Jay ~

        And he had Doreen for back up. I do agree he ran his prison time as a business, and why not? You do what you have to do.

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      10. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Exactly.

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      11. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I honestly can’t judge him for running a “business” from prison. He had to find a way to survive, and given the circumstances, it’s understandable. Knowing that an execution date was looming over my head and that there was essentially no way out, I doubt I’d last as long as he did. I might have tried to escape or done something even more drastic to get shot by the guards. A lot of people criticize him for using his correspondence with pen pals for his own benefit, but I don’t think they truly grasp how difficult it is to survive in prison or jail. I don’t know if they just expected him to sit in prison and twiddle his thumbs and stare at the ceiling. In places like those you have to have some form of “movement” whether it is physically or mentally otherwise you will go crazy. This “business” allowed him to connect with people, kept him busy, and he got some sort of benefit. I just don’t approve of people selling his letters and drawings and acting as if they are completely moral. I agree with you that this is a skill he probably honed from his past, especially given his history with addiction. He seemed to be someone who could quickly adapt to difficult situations.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I don’t blame him for trying to get what he could out of the people who wrote to him, after all, they wanted something from him, too; that being his attention. It was a two way thing, and they didn’t have to write to him, equally they didn’t have to send him nudes or cash. That was their choice.

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      13. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Exactly, most people act as if he had a gun to their head and forced them to write and send cash,supplies, nudes,ect. They are not the ones behind bars. He has no power over them. It was their choice to engage with him and continue engaging with him. Most of those people weren’t saints either. A good percentage of them were opportunistic and had ulterior motives for writing him, such as selling his letters or drawings. I bet they never even thought about the victims for even a second while they were asking for those things. I don’t think Richard is a completely moral person. But in my eyes he is NOT a monster.

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        ~ Jay ~

        He would’ve needed that cash to help him survive in there. They give them two meals a day, and that’s just basics, they need money and on death row there’s no way of earning it. Unlike in general population where they can get little jobs within the prison to help ends meet.
        Moss used him, pure and simple.

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  13. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Richard wasn’t at all a monster those people whom took advantage of him are nothing but lying monsters whom are hypocrites that don’t care at all about Richard only the fact he makes them money. It’s sickening and wrong and makes me mad.

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  14. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also that death row guy who claimed that Richard told him stuff what’s his name Kipp I think?

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    1. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      He seems delusional to me. He acts as if he’s better than Richard even though he was on SQ’s death row for double rape and murder. I think Venning or Jay said he was talking satan and demons and all that junk in regards to Richard.

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        sarah1997

        Kipp is not to be trusted he doesn’t even know Richard all that well and acts as tho they were buddy buddy Richard never confessed nor did he trust anyone eveyone even other criminals had so much to gain from Richard it appears

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      Yep, as I understand it, Kipp wrote in a letter to a fangirl of Richard’s (years after Richard died) that the scratches Richard received after getting beaten by the bailiffs, were inflicted by 3 demons that he had seen enter Richard’s cell. LOL

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        WTF 😂 that’s crazy omg! And Richard is isolated from everyone how could he have possibly seen such a thing hahaha just a another man taking advantage of a mentally not well person

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think Kipp likes to live vicariously through Richard.. lol

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Totally haha it’s just so wrong and you know these people they sound so convincing to a point, I’ve seen lots of fan girl edits and alot of them are like RICHARD had a high IQ, ummmm 🤨

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        ~ Jay ~

        They need to take a good look at his test results, his IQ was around 91.
        Richard did have some intelligence, he also read a lot of books, but criminal mastermind he was not. Gil likes to say he was the “smartest” criminal he ever met, which is ridiculous, unless Gil has had limited contact with smart people, which is also possible. lol

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Exactly but trying to convince them about anything regarding this case is so hard as I remember you Jay saying that you tried to back up a claim from a commenter towards a female. Nobody loves hearing the truth they want to give him this image that they believe best suits him to them more attracted to him!

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        ~ Jay ~

        They don’t want to know, and that’s about it, really.

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        sarah1997

        As you said Richard was not a criminal master mind I totally agree he seemed more like a follower as mentioned I believe by someone that knew him idk but for sure a follower with his mindset and mental health etc..no way could he pull off being a Criminal mastermind. He did read a lot yes and he said he loved learning new words as well in one of his letters! Gil likes to believe he’s a Richard expert but he’s desperate so desperate he his mind is so deluded with his thought of Richard

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    3. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      Kipp would have been the perfect pen pal for Moss. Regarding lies they would have been the mirror in the mirror in the mirror in the mirror etc.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Cut from the same cloth, as we say here.

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        sarah1997

        Hahaa agreed honestly Carlo gil Kipp and the rest of the Pinocchio club would be perfect pals without eachother

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Lol that group is ever growing!

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yup and it’s gonna keep multiplying. It’s literally gonna be a Pinocchio apocalypse 😂

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    sarah1997

    omg everytime I press don’t recommend channel on YouTube like he ones were it’s makeup crime cuz it’s really cringe and I hate it! It pops up again! I want to block it and it doesn’t have block! Or a new women pops up and again Makeup crime! My uncles ex girlfriend who’s still good with us and we keep in touch she does a true crime podcast with her friend and I had to block her on instagram cuz I saw Richard’s face and I knew where this was heading and I just didn’t want to hear it.

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    sarah1997

    I want everyone here to know that you are all beautiful no matter where you come from or what religion you are part of or the colour of your skin we are all equal and you are all equally beautiful and loved! I may not know you all personally but from the time I’ve spent on here talking with each and every one of you, you guys are amazing and I like all of you! Racism has to end enough is enough!

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  17. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I was considering watching the Menendez brothers series on Netflix. But then I remember how much the Dahmer version traumatized me and I thought it best not to. From the small clips I’ve seen on Youtube they seem to focus mostly on a supposed incestious relationship between the two. I find it weird that all of a sudden there are a plethora of documentaries and tv shows surrounding the Menendez brothers coming out. Meanwhile the court is reviewing new evidence of abuse from their father. The brothers alleged that the murders were in response to this abuse. I honestly don’t know how to feel about it as I only know the basic facts of the case.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Yes, I am the same. I know the basics and the alleged sexual abuses surrounding the case. I would definitely want another source of info other than Netflix. Look what they did with Richard’s case.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        exactly Richard’s case they focused so much on the lies and groupies and fan girls and misinformation and misleading shit so yes I agree with you on the menendez case!

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I can hardly call the Netflix series a documentary. They glossed over so much of the case that I had to rely on external sources just to get half of the picture of what actually happened.

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    2. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      it’s a pretty hard case as well the brothers even claimed I believe it was Erik that he had to Lemmon a lot cuz it take the taste of Semin that his dad forced him to swallow while sexually abusing them. There is however a picture they recently took to evidence where you do infact see the dad put his hands on Erik’s private area when he was just a kid

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        ~ Jay ~

        As I understand it, that evidence was disallowed from the second trial? I should read up on it, but I am so wary of any sources now.
        I guess getting their court docs is the only way..

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes the second trial! There will be a new Netflix documentary on the brothers coming one October 7th but I have trust issues with these sources cuz of what happened with Richard as you mentioned.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Exactly that. I don’t trust these documentaries, or docu-dramas at all and it’s sad that so many do.

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        sarah1997

        They take it as a legitimate source they believe that’s guys did their absolute research and stuff and it clearly shows that they didn’t at least with Richard’s case and I’m sure most of them too it’s really sad I agree that most people believe these shows as gospel then they tell you to do your research 😂

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        Vivi

        I watched clips of their testimony on the abuse in court and I just really don’t know how to feel. Their emotions seemed real. But I am weary on trusting someone’s body language or emotions alone as proof of their claims if that makes sense. I would need more evidence as a juror.

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      6. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ya for sure I know how you feel I agree! I got a mixed feeling with the brothers like I want to believe them and a part of me does but the other part of me is like idk what to believe

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        Vivi

        Like he had to eat lemons a lot because he was forced to swallow it? I’m confused.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, as gross as that sounds..

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        sarah1997

        No he ate lemon by choice to get the taste of Semin out of his mouth after his father allegedly sexually assaulted him then he claimed he’d put cinnamon in his dad tea or drink so that the Semin would taste better

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        Vivi

        That’s horrific!

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        sarah1997

        Ya it really is if their claims are true that wtf kind of parents were those?! And the mother knew about it and yet did nothing about it. Other family members claimed that they too witnessed the abuse then there this one other man that said he also was sexually abused by the dad as well

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        Vivi

        I find it incredibly frustrating how slow the American justice system is when it comes to reviewing appeals and examining new evidence. From what I understand, they submitted the new evidence back in May of 2023, and while I realize there might be a backlog, especially in California, it’s still unacceptable. Too many people die on death row—or in prison in general—while waiting for their appeals or new evidence to even be considered.

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        VenningB

        it’s appalling that people wait years just for their direct appeal to be read. In Richard’s case, over 16 years and he couldn’t even submit new evidence.

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        Vivi

        That’s outrageous! I get that Richard’s case is complicated, and that California’s courts are often overwhelmed, but the fact that no new evidence was even submitted makes this delay even more absurd. I could understand a wait of 2-5 years, given the sheer volume of trial documents and the need to examine constitutional violations carefully. I’m pretty sure you or Jay mentioned that it took them 10 years to actually file the direct appeal. I know that public defenders are also burdened with heavy caseloads and often don’t have enough resources. But 16 years? That’s completely unacceptable. It’s close to two decades of someone’s life. That they can never get back. When I read the court’s response to the claims in his appeal, it didn’t even seem like they took the time to thoroughly review it. Their reaction came across as dismissive, as if they didn’t really engage with the issues raised. It feels like the system is structured to trap people in endless legal limbo, making it nearly impossible to move forward once you’re caught in it.

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        sarah1997

        It’s really sad! The American system is super bad and needs a lot of change!

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    Vivi

    Sorry for asking so many questions. But do you guys know who that Ruthia Hughes lady is?(Probably spelled her name wrong) I’ve seen pictures of her with Richard’s relatives and heard stories of her interactions with him. She also alleges that he sent her some of his personal belongings prior to his death.

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      Ruthia: well, it appears she knew Richard and has spent time with his family, some of her claims are quite crazy and cannot be substantiated for obvious reasons, but I do believe she knew him. Our Kaycee has spoken to her, but Venning and I have not.

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        Vivi

        I’m not entirely sure if this is true, but it’s possible she might be the one he wrote that letter to, telling her to stay away from him and his family, essentially cutting off all contact. It seems like something he would do if he felt that someone was overstepping boundaries or becoming too intrusive.

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        Yes, that was her.

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        Vivi

        That was one of the few times I have seen him be angry in letters. She must’ve done something really stupid.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, it’s rather intriguing, isn’t it?

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    Isabella 99

    Hi guys who is Jason Moss ? I suppose he is or was an author ,or one of those weird pen pals ? What i ve read here , he was not a nice guy ? I ve also read about Richard sold hiy drawings to this guy for 40 Dollars …So its very obvious that Richard often had money problems…thats what I thought ! Doreen and Richard must have been in trouble many times because of money shortage . ..This Kipp guy ..a man you can t trust ! I m sorry for Richard when I think about his time in St. Quentin..I try not to think about that…but it often think about it. He had to deal with so many weird people there ! Yes people in general are very opportunistic that seems to be a natural Charakter trait of human beings . And..we have to fight that.! Now I ll try to find out about this guy Moss.

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      Vivi

      He wrote a book called ” The Last Victim: A True-Life Journey into the Mind of the Serial Killer”. He tried to understand the minds of serial killers. He was a criminology student who wrote to serial killers such as Gacy, Dahmer, Ramirez, ect. He would pose as if he was one of their “ideal victims” or as a friend with common interests as them and write to them. Essentially, he would lie to them about himself to extract information about their fantasies and desires among other things to write his book. I have yet to read the full book yet. But a lot of excerpts I have read seem exaggerated and almost false and are graphic in my opinion. He took his life in 2006.

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      Vivi

      I personally don’t like him he was just another shady character who trying to profit off of Ramirez.

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      I’ve seen a letter in which Richard wrote that he charged $25-$100 for his drawings, the more you’d pay the better the drawing. So maybe Moss had already paid for the drawings before. The $50 were only for Richards permission to use them in his book. But Richard also did drawings for free or to give something back to his pen pals. The 4 drawings + the letter in which Moss asked for Richards permission can be found on flicker. The laughing guy and the “hand of doom and gloom” were done by Richard. The other 2 he couldn’t remember. They have a signature that looks like Richards, but the style and the writing in the drawings look different in my opinion.. (“pieces of April” and “Trophy collection”)

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    sarah1997

    WTF is wrong with people honestly! And then there these 2 poor old I forgot their names on wait nvm is dickmen Dickson idk anywho him and his wife pretended to befriends with Richard etc… and wrote to him called him there’s even a phone call of the two and Richard seems so sweet like he was asking about his relationship with his mother! But also do you notice how in that call the beginning is about Richard being asked if he wants some nude pictures of little girls and so on?

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      Vivi

      I think you are talking about the Dicksteins. Rick (or Rich) Dickstein probably started off the conversation about nude girls to keep Richard engaged and interested. I’m pretty sure him and his wife pretended to be the owners of a bar or strip club and asked Richard for drawings and then proceeded to sell or put them on display. I agree he sounded sweet almost childlike in that phone call. I’ve noticed in his letters and phone calls he seems more interested in talking about other people’s lives rather than his own. The only thing he was kind of open about was his sexual fantasies and such.

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        sarah1997

        Yes I agree! And they indeed as I was told before pretend to be club owners! I feel like Richard maybe believed that if he talked about his life he would be judged or shaming his family as he didn’t want to do! He asked alot of people in letters about their childhood too! He was just so traumatized and damaged from his upbringing poor guy!

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I agree he probably didn’t want to open up his family to further scrutiny and shame. Plus no one wants to make themselves feel vulnerable and weak by revealing too much sensitive information about themselves. The media and all those profit vultures would’ve swooped in and used that information however they see fit.

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        sarah1997

        Yup exactly so I don’t blame him for keeping his privacy a secret! He seemed for sure like someone that would hate to be seen as weak and vulnerable, as his dad told his kids to not show their show self and feelings so I’m guess that also played a role in Richard trying to hide his true self and just pretending to be tough and also to impress the ladies. But once he saw his sister in prison when she visited him all those emotions just bursted out poor guy it makes me cry when this.

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        Vivi

        He seemed rather emotionally repressed, as if he was holding things inside for a long time and would occasionally blurt them out, only to immediately retract or divert the conversation. A clear example of this is in the Watkiss interview when he said, “I gave up on love and happiness a long time ago.” This statement suggests that he had given up on forming lasting emotional bonds or having a loving relationship with someone, leaving him feeling unfulfilled both emotionally and spiritually. However, when Watkiss tried to delve deeper into this admission, Richard shut down and said he didn’t want to discuss it further.

        I might be reading too much into it, but it felt like an impulsive outburst of his inner feelings, followed by a fear of being questioned further, possibly manipulated, or maybe just discomfort in sharing more. He seemed unable to express his emotions clearly, likely a result of growing up in an environment where he wasn’t allowed to show vulnerability or wasn’t taught emotional regulation.

        Emotional dysregulation refers to the inability to manage one’s emotions effectively. It can result in either extreme repression, where someone holds everything in, or overexpression, where emotions come out in an uncontrollable way. Individuals who suffer from emotional dysregulation find it difficult to process and move past their emotions, which often keeps them trapped in cycles of frustration and emotional pain. It’s vital for a person to have a space where they can express their emotions when necessary, but Richard seemed to have been denied this—whether due to his circumstances or his own emotional constraints.

        Considering the situation Richard was in, it’s understandable that expressing his emotions would have been difficult. He was under immense pressure, and in prison, showing vulnerability can be dangerous. However, bottling up emotions and putting on a facade of strength and confidence isn’t healthy either. Suppressing emotions for too long can lead to a range of mental and physical health problems, including potential brain damage. He was placed in a position that I couldn’t imagine even in my worst nightmares—being chased by an angry mob, beaten, rushed off to jail or prison on charges he likely didn’t fully understand, probably while experiencing drug withdrawal. Then, enduring the circus of a trial, being sentenced to 19 death sentences, spending over half his life in prison, and ultimately dying there from illness without ever experiencing freedom again.

        Any human being would understandably break down at one or more of these points. But I doubt Richard ever allowed himself to fully release his emotions, likely because he equated emotional expression with weakness, and there were certainly people willing to prey on him if he showed any. I don’t know for sure what his life behind bars was like for over two decades, but I doubt he had anyone he could truly open up to. Perhaps Doreen, but even that seems unlikely. He may have been naturally reserved, but from his voice recordings and interviews, I get the sense that he deeply needed someone to connect with and talk to. Tragically, it seems like he never had that opportunity. It’s nightmarish to think about.

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        VenningB

        It reminds me of when he told that Michal woman that he still had dreams about the trial…then she shut it off with a “but I like nightmares”

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      6. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        He seemed a bit less guarded with her, possibly because she was a woman, whereas he appeared more indifferent toward men. I noticed he blurted out quite a few things during that “interview.” Speaking of which, do you feel like the interview might have been edited? It seems like there are moments where he’s looking at her while she’s asking a question, but before he can respond, the footage cuts to another clip. It’s hard to describe, but something definitely feels off—like parts are missing.

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        VenningB

        Yes there are so many cuts. Particularly when he’s talking about the impulses that crush him. There is more to his sentence than the Inside Edition version but I’m disappointed to see this new clip is also cut.

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        Vivi

        I’ve watched several hours of Bundy interviews and even clips from his trial. But it’s like pulling teeth to find anything substantial on Richard. I wonder why? 🤔

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh I 100% agree with everything you just said and you’re not reading too much into it I agree as well with that statement! He was never able to express himself at all birth till death trust issues and so on. When people hold in their emotions it comes out differently then having someone to have talked to about it! He was good at keeping things to him self a

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        Vivi

        He was probably using drugs to cope with his emotional problems among his brain injuries and mental illnesses. It’s an easier route than confronting them or talking to a mental health professional. I hate the stigma that in order for men to be seen as masculine or strong they shouldn’t show emotion or be vulnerable in any form or way. It’s toxic.

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        sarah1997

        I Understand his sister it’s so sad! It really is toxic for hate it as well that men have to be seen as rough and tough and they can’t get abused or raped it assaulted cuz they men! Wtf of it’s possible for men to have that shit happen to them! That’s why it’s so hard for men to open up cuz no one believes them!

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        Vivi

        I’ve seen instances where men open up and actually women shoot them down and make their problems seem less important simply because they are men. In their minds only women’s problems are the only ones that matter. This is opinion of toxic “feminists” not a judgment on the movement in general.

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        sarah1997

        It really sucks men or women we are all equal and all our problems and pain are equal! I don’t get myself women weak and men strong? If women get rapped omg help her but if men get raped nah impossible men are strong ummmm ya no that’s the kind of toxic thinking that keeps men from opening up! Exactly like the Depp vs Heard case! It’s so messed up! Men have a right to express their emotions and pain and cry it out it’s ok doesn’t make them any less of a man in facts to me it makes them a real true man! 5 years ago my abuser was very suicidal and I am but me more I put away my pain and started helping him with his he cried and and expressed his emotions and luckily I was there to help him he’s now not suicidal! But the abuse never stopped 😖

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        Vivi

        The Depp v. Heard trial was a prime example of people believing the woman was the victim because she was a woman. She really didn’t have any solid proof that Johnny assaulted her, but everyone believed her because why would she lie?! The only reason why people switched sides and began believing Johnny is because the trial was publically broadcast and people could clearly see just how manipulative and awful Amber really was. I wish Richard’s trial was similarly broadcast live on TV. But I guess they didn’t have technology or more likely didn’t care enough. It’s easier to report on edited bits of the trial than to show just how much of a circus it really was.

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      15. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        True true I agree! It’s crazy how they set up Richard’s case I wish as well it was broadcasted like that too! It’s getting hard and hard to trust anyone these days I lost my full trust in the system and cops I may sound crazy but I don’t trust the cops at all not one bit

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      16. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Most of the cops that I have come across here in the states are really kind and helpful. That’s just my personal experience. But I will always be weary. Knowing your rights and exercising them properly without being violent is key.

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        sarah1997

        Oh that’s totally fair I understand! For me I have surviver trust issues I’ve heard too many messed up cop stories and especially with Richard’s case!

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      18. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        There still needs to be so much legal and police reform though. There is too many “mistakes” being made by a system that is supposed to be fair.

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        sarah1997

        Yup totally! But sadly no matter what it’s never gonna change.It’s scary and sad and I watch a lot of true crime and do my own research too and learnt that during this time 70s-80s especially in USA a lot of criminals killings etc…. It was a very dangerous time

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        VenningB

        Amber Heard was next level horrible. I’m glad people stopped believing her. Another example of someone believing a woman when the man is a victim is the Alice Evans vs Ioan Gruffudd divorce saga. I don’t know if you’ve heard of them. He’s a Welsh actor and she’s an ex actress. She’s an utterly unhinged psychopath and he has a restraining order against her. But people believe her lies that he traded her for a younger model and he’s abusing her through the courts. It’s her doing that. She claims he has stopped paying child support. Nope. It’s a lie. Lately, the tide is turning and media articles are finally exposing her for the drunken abusive beast she really is.
        But it shows the power of the media when they pick a villain. It was the research of ordinary people who exposed Alice’s lies.

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        Vivi

        I remember here in the states a male student who attended USC was accused of sexually assaulting one of his peers. The very allegation destroyed his life and he was kicked out of the school prior to a trial even taking place. It was later found that the woman was the aggressor and that the sexual encounter was mutual. This was only because of the CCTV footage of them at the bar. Even after the not guilty verdict the school still refused to take him back. But he brought it to the courts and was eventually able to finish school. Even with all of this I doubt that his life would’ve been easy going forwards. Allegations like that destroy a person’s life. People should look at all the facts before they start a witch hunt. Unfortunately, this isn’t and won’t be the last time that stuff like this will happen. Most of the time these women get off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. There was another one where the guy ended up taking his own life because of the backlash, even though there was not proof for the allegations.

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        Vivi

        When they do stupid shit like this women that actually go through these experiences and need help will not get it.

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  21. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Why did the Hernandezes create two separate contracts for Richard and his family, instead of consolidating everything into a single agreement that could cover both parties’ terms?

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      Richard never had a retainer agreement with them, he signed the attorney substitution forms and his family/sister signed the retainer agreement.
      In the end, it wouldn’t have made a difference because they would still need to sell his story either way, to raise funds. Which is what caused the conflict of interest in the first place.

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        Vivi

        That makes much more sense now, thank you for explaining! I suppose the only way this entire situation could have been avoided would have been if Richard had kept his public defenders, who were paid by the state. That way, his family wouldn’t have been burdened financially, and there wouldn’t have been the same conflicts of interest. I completely understand why the Ramirez family had a deep mistrust of the government, which is even justified in certain instances. However, Richard wasn’t in a state of mind to rationalize or make informed decisions. He relied entirely on his family, as they were the ones funding his defense and the only people he could somewhat trust.

        It’s tragic that Richard had to sell his life story just to afford legal representation, only for that very act to undermine his defense due to the inevitable conflicts of interest it created. His lawyers should absolutely be held accountable for a significant part of this mess. They prioritized financial gain over their client’s best interests. While his family may not have foreseen the long-term consequences of hiring the Hernandezes, given the urgency of the situation, I still hold them somewhat accountable, although I don’t blame them as much as the attorneys. They were likely desperate and searching for a quick solution, but that desperation unfortunately made a bad situation even worse.

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        It is a sad fact that the State really holds most of the cards, and although Public Defenders are funded by the court, they typically get less funding than the prosecutors, which is wrong. Allen Adashek and Henry Hall were far better qualified than the Hernandezes, and would not have been hampered by a conflict of interest, at least.

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        Vivi

        I can’t understand why the prosecution and defense aren’t given equal funding. It seems like common sense that both sides should have the same resources. You can be an incredibly skilled defense attorney with a track record of success, but there’s only so much you can accomplish without adequate funding. To build a strong defense, attorneys need the ability to retest evidence, hire experts, and conduct thorough investigations—none of which come cheaply. Proper funding is absolutely essential to ensure a fair trial.

        In my opinion, denying equal funding to both parties is a violation of constitutional rights, as it compromises the fairness of the legal proceedings. The imbalance creates an unfair advantage for the prosecution, which can lead to skewed outcomes. I wish people would abandon this narrative that paints prosecutors as heroes and defense attorneys as villains. This mindset breeds incredible prejudice toward the defense and defendant while favoring the prosecution. It shifts public perception and even influences the courtroom dynamic, making it easier for the prosecution to sway the trial in their favor.

        At its core, the courtroom is simply a space where two parties present evidence and arguments—the prosecution makes its case, and the defense challenges it. There is no “good” or “bad” side. Both parties should be on equal footing, including having access to the same level of funding. This is non-negotiable, yet it’s another glaring flaw in the U.S. justice system that persists,

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        And Justice for All


        I talk about the disparity a bit in this article and the website 6ac.org is well worth a look. It details the 6th Amendment and the right to due process.

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    Vivi

    I’m not sure if it would’ve made a difference. Having separate contracts with Richard and his family created a huge conflict of interest. Perhaps, it could’ve helped clarify things a little bit more for Richard. However, he probably wouldn’t have been in the right state of mind anyways.

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    Vivi

    Before stumbling upon this blog, I had watched dozens of so-called “documentaries” about Richard and his case. They were incredibly repetitive, with most of them essentially just copying each other’s content. After reading Carlo’s book, I realized that these documentaries were simply regurgitating what was in the book, sometimes even word for word. There was absolutely nothing new being added to the conversation.
    In my opinion, when making a documentary, it’s crucial to use multiple sources to ensure that the information is accurate and well-rounded. Otherwise, all you’re doing is contributing to the pool of distorted narratives. Unfortunately, more of these documentaries keep coming out, and some are even making more absurd claims than the last.
    That being said, I’ve noticed a glimmer of hope—I’ve occasionally come across comments from viewers pointing out the inaccuracies in these documentaries. So, maybe, just maybe, people are starting to demand a higher standard of truth and accuracy when it comes to cases like Richard’s.

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      VenningB

      Yes! They repeat Carlo’s claims about Richard almost being shot my Maxine Zazzara. What evidence is there for that? Carlo claimed it was part of a confession.

      I saw a really bad documentary in which they claimed Carol Kyle reported a man with rotten teeth. Then they showed the Dickman composite sketch and said it was from Maria Hernandez. No wonder people believe all this crap.

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        sarah1997

        woah?! I never heard of this documentary! Omg yes i can see now how people believe this shit! like why all this BS?! This is so so wrong and people have full trust on these liars?! No wonder the Ramirez family had so much mistrust with these people I don’t blame them at all! I can’t believe it had to come down to Richard selling his life story just for it to be manipulated and stuff

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        Vivi

        I won’t believe any of those so-called “confessions” until I hear a recording of them or see other pieces of evidence proving them.

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        If a recording “suddenly appears” I’d be suspicious of that, too. So much Richard AI stuff flies around.

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        Vivi

        I’ve thought about that too. It seems like they’ll go to any lengths to keep up this charade. I’ve listened to a few of those AI-generated recordings, and I’d say there’s about a 75% chance I could tell if something was fake or not. But with how fast technology is advancing, they’ll probably soon be able to fine-tune these recordings, adding effects to make them sound even more convincing. Once they reach that level of deception, they will have completely lost any sense of morality. Though, honestly, we crossed that line a long time ago. It’s tragic—Richard has been dead for over 10 years, and yet they continue with these ridiculous shenanigans.

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      5. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        A frightening number of people believe really obvious AI images are real so millions of people would fall for this.

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        Vivi

        When I saw the arrest photo of him smiling, the first thought that crossed my mind was, “Why is he grinning like the Cheshire Cat in a mugshot?” Lol, I thought he got dentures or something cause he looked like a spokesperson for a Colgate commercial. We all know that he didn’t take good care of his teeth.

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        VenningB

        Hahahaa yes. Big ugly veneers. I prefer his actual (fixed) teeth to that.

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        Vivi

        His groupies/fangirls don’t like him for who he is so they mold him into something he is not.

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        VenningB

        I remember being told that Richard would hate us because we don’t accept him for proud killer he was…
        So that’s not him referring to his convictions as “those crimes they said I committed ”??!!

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        Vivi

        How the hell would they know did the contact his spirit through a Ouija board or something?!

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        Vivi

        Plus this isn’t about him hating or liking us it’s about uncovering the truth of what happened. I’m pretty sure no one likes to be called a killer and a rapist!

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        YesIAmEvil

        Most documentaries said that Miguel shot his wife in May 1973, when Richard was 13 years old. That shows that they didn’t check anything. None of them ever checked Josefina’s death record or any newspaper archives or Mike’s verdict or anything. And if they didn’t verify that, they probably didn’t verify anything. They didn’t get it right for decades.

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        Yes! And this is often still repeated, proving no one bothers to check facts.

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    sarah1997

    I personally think that no Matter what Richard’s family or Richard could have done or have done to help Richard he’s always in the end be trapped in prison all they wanted was for Richard to be guilty so they would have still done anything to and sure of that which is really sad for Richard. So I don’t think anything would have really made a difference even if he did have competent lawyers

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      Vivi

      I said the same thing in a previous comment as well. If he was guilty in the court of public opinion, then he WILL be found guilty in the actual courts. His conviction was beneficial to all as it would calm public pressure and clear several cases. It didn’t matter whether they had the right guy or not. As long as someone took the fall for it that is all that matters.

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        sarah1997

        Yes they didn’t care who’s gonna have to take the fall for it as long as someone took that blame they good! Wtf kind of thinking is that?! Messed up to the core! This case was so defendable how can nobody see that?!

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        Vivi

        If the internet had existed at the time, the public would have had access to alternative perspectives on the case. Instead, they were limited to what the news and papers reported, both of which were heavily biased in favor of the prosecution. Given that these were the only available sources of information, it’s no surprise that public perception became so skewed and distorted.

        The only way people could have gotten a more balanced view of the case would have been by attending the trial themselves and doing their own reporting and research. But let’s be honest—who has the time or energy for that? As a result, the lies and falsehoods persisted and took root in public opinion.

        The media played an enormous role in Richard’s conviction, but not in the way they should have. It wasn’t investigative journalism that shaped the narrative—it was more like sensationalism, tabloids, and propaganda. Instead of seeking the truth, the media fueled the public’s fear and outrage, which undoubtedly influenced the outcome of the trial.

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        sarah1997

        Oh most definitely I agree I couldn’t have said it better myself!

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        sarah1997

        Omg I’m so sorry if I said the same thing you said sometimes I read too fast and didn’t notice 😅

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        Vivi

        Lol don’t worry about it. The more times it’s said the more it can be understood.

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        sarah1997

        Thank you you’re very sweet!

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        csmutny06cae8b36d

        THIS!!

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      ~ Jay ~

      I agree, Sarah, I think I said something similar in an earlier comment.

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        sarah1997

        Yes I agree with you too! lol You know idk why I repeated it like i read stuff fast sometimes my bad 😂

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  25. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    OMG speaking of the AI there are AI voice of Richard on YouTube reading out his letters! I literally thought it was him when I first heard them 😖

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    sarah1997

    I just don’t understand why Poole just so easily believe Eveything that’s just said now can they not notice some BS I understand that they just don’t want to but still! There’s nothing wrong with questioning anything if we are allowed to question other cases the How come not this case it’s really messed up! How many cases do you hear about were the cops makes constantly movies or shows about the killer? Non barely any only Richard!

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      Vivi

      People have built so many similar narratives around this case that when alternative perspectives emerge, they’re often met with hostility. It’s like the majority trying to silence the minority. The lies surrounding this case are like wildfires—no matter how much effort we put into dispelling them, they continue to spread, especially because there are certain individuals who keep fanning the flames. All we can really do is engage with those who are open-minded and willing to listen. I completely understand your frustration and anger about not being able to discuss this case more openly and being insulted and belittled. I can imagine that Jay, Kaycee, and Venning faced years of pushback and dismissal before anyone started paying attention to the real facts. It probably took this blog and the subsequent book to finally get people to see things in a new light and draw their own conclusions. My advice is to keep having these important conversations. If I hadn’t stumbled across this blog and the Writ, I might have stayed just as ignorant as everyone else! So, continue speaking up—you never know whose perspective you might change

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        VenningB

        In a way, it’s amazing that people found us so quickly because we never engage much. We don’t tend to argue and debate the case anywhere.

        Some of that is down to YouTube deleting our comments and mass reporting on Twitter. So we stopped bothering.

        I made a handful of comments on YouTube but they would sometimes not appear and it made me look like I was unable to support my arguments. Infuriating. So I gave up.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        It’s only freedom of speech when you are saying what they want. Jerks!

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        sarah1997

        I couldn’t agree more with you haha! Very well said i agree once again with you! I will always stand by what I said and for my conclusions and opinion about this case! it’s also super awesome this blog exists I’d be so lost without this blog! I wish there was a way be can’t shut down those haters but i doubt it and yes I can imagine all the harass and hate Jay Kaycee venning had it’s truly awful they are working hard to spread the truth and help Richard and others in his situation and other reasons and they get hate for that?! Wow, I’m so sorry for anyone dealing with those Gil lovers even my dog is more open minded hehe! Keep it up all 3 of you and for the rest of us!

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    sarah1997

    so apparently the Erik menendez daughter runs a Instagram account for him and it’s his official account!

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    sarah1997

    there’s so many comments omg 🤩 1700!!!! K hope more people read and engage in the convos! Because of you guys Kaycee venning Jay this is. Happening you should be so proud and rewarded!!!!

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    Vivi

    Do you guys know if it’s true that Rosa took out another mortgage on her home to pay for Richard’s legal fees?

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      VenningB

      I’ve not heard this. But the others might have. His niece Shelly claimed that her parents broke up with the financial strain of Robert paying for the lawyers. I. Don’t. Think. So.

      This is her trying to make her family relevant to proceedings.

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        sarah1997

        I don’t trust that Shelly Robert or sandy at all didn’t Jay say if I’m correct that Shelly stole pictures from Rosa and sold it? If I’m wrong plz feel free to correct me!

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        VenningB

        She did, yeah. And Sandy claimed Richard got in her bed and tried to assault her 🤣

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        sarah1997

        And then she saw her underwear everywhere out of her underwear drawer 😑🤨😂

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        Vivi

        How the hell was he paying for anything if he couldn’t hold down a job especially with his substance abuse?! It makes no bloody sense!

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        VenningB

        And I think he was a miner and other menial jobs… I can’t imagine this could pay for a lawyer. I think they felt guilty that they couldn’t afford it so just lie. Also, Shelly must be unaware of the Hernandezes payment situation if she thinks lawyer fees ruined her parents’ marriage. On this documentary, there was a psychologist going on about how Shelly was so traumatised by this, like secondary trauma from her evil, powerful uncle! Lol

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        Vivi

        I forgot they brought on a psychologist lol. I’m sure the trial and aftermath affected her in some form or way. But not in the way she says it did and not to that magnitude. You can’t blame the guy for every damn problem in your life. Also, I doubt that they felt guilty for not doing more for him. If they did then they wouldn’t still be trying to profit off of Richard and further distorting the public’s view of him. If that happened to someone I love and care about. I don’t care whether they are guilty or not I am not exposing my family’s dirty laundry for all to see.

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        Vivi

        When I read about the Rosa thing I had a hard time believing it to be honest. I know she signed lots of promissory notes or whatever. But I feel that this rumor might be a lie.

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    Isabella 99

    Hi thanks for Info about Jason Moss . I ve read about him yesterday . And asked myself wether its worth while to buy the book because of what he writes about Richard ? And I have read some articles about Capote s In cold blood , for I m still upset and annoyed about the Carlo Book which mislead me so much at the beginning when I had stumbled over Richard Ramirez . I dont mind Carlo s style or so ..but I ve only read half of his book…in combination with those awful doccos it really confused me a lot . I still struggle to understand that its legal to manipulate the public by using fiction , or at least say 50 % fiction in Carlo s book. Richard gets introduced as a pervers sadistic Killer and rapist !? Same in most of those socalled doccos and in Netflix. No wonder that Lots of people believe all this ! So Capote s book is really different as it does not sensatioalize what happens . But I have to go on reading . In Richards case I m still clueless how everything could go so bad ! I think there is to be done very much more publicing about the hidden truth . I think that you 3 writers did a very good Job in showing and explaining the high rate of murder at that time , 1984 , 85 , 86 in L.A. and San Francisco..People Don t know that ! But realizing those high rates of capital crimes and that Richard probably Was not to be at all to be Connected with a series of murder is really important .

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      Vivi

      I always go back and forth between buying the books or watching the “documentaries” and almost always end up getting it. I am interested in what idiotic theories and lies they come up with to make Richard even more of a monster. But I feel like the content in Moss’s book might be a bit much for me.

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    Isabella 99

    Of course it is more than weird that many fangirls or whatever they can be called , prefer their Idol beeing really dangerous. Beeing an Individual that commited many crimes . I vd never come across such crazy attitudes . In my opinion it is not possible to love someone who has murdered people. But . that s this hybristo problem again. I fully understand Doreen that she refused to answer Shoko Hara s request to get involved to that Just a Guy Film . When I stumbled over Richard Rsmirez due to a funny coincident , I did nt have the slightest idea of what was to be expected !

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      sarah1997

      I saw the film it’s really cringe tbh and annoyed me I can’t believe Richard asked Eva O to marry him tbh he’s better off with Doreen and also good for Doreen for rejecting to be involved in that video or I think just ignoring them!

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    Isabella 99

    The high murder rate at that times should be stressed more in so far that unfortunately Lots of unsolved cases were stored and the murders continued as we know. I did only know this because I ve read it in the book ! So , the public did not know this fact either , also the makers of these stupid socalled doccos dont know that , they would nt care anyway I guess. That they , LAPD etc.have stuck Richard into this serial of murders is really the base of all those bad things Happening to Richard . They could not have done so without hanging that serial construction on him !

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      VenningB

      I love when people tell me that the crimes ended the day he was captured… Then I discovered there were two very similar attacks in the San Gabriel Valley just two weeks later… Ridiculous.

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        sarah1997

        and the audacity of the cops and media downplaying it how ridiculous is that as well didn’t the crimes increase when Richard got apprehended? And also that area had a lot a lot of crimes during those times too!

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      Vivi

      It’s so wrong that they prioritized numbers over true justice for human lives. A high case clearance rate is not an indicator that your department is successful. That can only be reflected in the quality of your work and whether crime rates in your county went down. I think it’s a logical assumption that if the crimes rates continued rising especially with similar crimes. Then you are not doing your jobs right.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes exactely ..Eva O…would not hsve been my first choice.. but she did not love him anyway . This Film…I Don t know …I somehow laugh about this little movie ..I can not take it serious at all. Allthough I UNDERSTAND ITS INTENTION …LOL.

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      sarah1997

      hahaha the animation of it freaks me out. And Eva O in my opinion would she Used Richard if they got married idk but I feel like she would. I’m very curious about the letters Richard and Doreen sent eachother and how Richard proposed to her! Hehe

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      Vivi

      I’m really trying not to be rude or anything. But she scares me like most of his groupies/fangirls.

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        sarah1997

        oh that’s not rude she scares me too 😂

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        They fought over him like he was a piece of meat. I remember hearing that they tried to get restraining orders against one another and sent death threats. So much for female solidarity 😆

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        sarah1997

        Omg what’s wrong with them hahaha I never heard this before did they actually?! Omg that’s too much now they crazy! 😝

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        It must’ve been weird for him to go from being barely noticed walking down the street to having women fall at his feet and fight over him.

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        sarah1997

        In one letter he claimed to have said he hated the name groupie and in a news paper that he said “ he’s not a sex symbol” hahahaha sorry girls

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        ~ Jay ~

        I don’t think he ever saw himself that way. One of the psychologists (Evans, I think) said he saw himself as “less than other people”, again the sex symbol image is something else given to him.

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        sarah1997

        Yes! I never seen him write so highly of himself! I remember in one of your blog the psychologist said that his ego is very low when Gil claimed it to be very high and that he compared himself to others a lot etc…. That’s not someone who would think sexy of themselves.

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  34. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    PS …Truman Capote s experiences with the two suspects and everything else in In cold blod are quite disturbing ..But its worth reading and thinking about .

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    sarah1997

    another crazy claim by Shelly was that she said during her visit with him in prison he molested her while her aunt ate cookies? I forgot which aunt but ya! I really find that hard to believe. He was in prison and under what hard security? Why would anyone in prison allow such a thing to happen?!

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      VenningB

      What’s weird is that in the documentary featuring Sandy, what happened to Shelly didn’t arise. She never mentioned it (unless it was missing from the video I saw). I find it weird that if mother and daughter both have a creepy story to tell, why were they not both included?!

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        sarah1997

        I exactly! You I feel really that Gil had soemthing to do with this he’s pretty much everywhere and you see him with Jennifer in one video so I’m guessing he’s met Shelly and sandy as well.

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        sarah1997

        The only documentary I’ve seen Shelly in is monster in my family I’ve not seen the whole thing but a bit of it

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      Vivi

      I think it was that she was forced to watch Richard masturbate while Doreen sat in the corner eating cookies. I have no idea where she pulled that out of. Probably her ass 🤣

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        She said Rosa held her head and forced her to watch. Another family member told me that that is unequivocally false, Rosa did no such thing.

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        Vivi

        Not only do they sully the reputation and image of Richard, but they do it to others as well. That’s so fucked up!

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        Vivi

        By trying to portray the entire family as deranged freaks she also makes herself look like one. After all she is part of the family.

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        sarah1997

        Ok family or not I don’t like Shelly
        Or sandy they just kept on the cycle for Richard that’s your uncle girl! He was suffering! Didn’t she even have a hit of faith or belief in his innocence even just a little? It’s so sad and ridiculous they had to step to that level! Idk if you’ve seen this YouTuber ugh I forgot the name crime something and it’s a two part video of her trying to share the truth about Richard’s case and of him and the one person she talked to in non other than Shelly!

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        Vivi

        This is also his website I think: https://www.programmedtokill.net/

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        sarah1997

        Thank you so much! 😊

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        Vivi

        Here is the link to what I believe is most of his videos:
        https://archive.org/details/@lolfieldandlove/uploads?sort=title

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        sarah1997

        The guy that had his account taken away correct?

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      9. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Yes I think 😊

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        Vivi

        It’s disheartening that individuals like him, who strive to educate the public through their videos, are often unfairly targeted and removed from platforms. Meanwhile, countless channels on YouTube exploit the morbid fascination with crime by exaggerating details and using graphic crime scene photos for entertainment or do those ridiculous mukbangs and makeup videos while talking about someone getting brutally murdered.
        From what I know he had dedicated significant time and effort to building their channel. The sudden and unannounced removal of their content is not only unjust but also indicative of a biased and inconsistent approach to content moderation.

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        sarah1997

        If you do those things it’s ok and respectful and is allowed and you do what we do we are bad we get banned and harassed etc… wtf!

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        Vivi

        They only talk to people like Shelley, Sandy, Robert, and others because these are the only family members willing to open themselves up to further ridicule. Perhaps, even after all this time, some people in the family still haven’t gotten back on their feet, and doing interviews or podcasts is an easy way to make some quick cash. What they don’t realize is that the more they participate in these platforms, the more likely their “lies and falsehoods” will be exposed, diminishing whatever credibility they have left.
        Additionally, Richard’s fangirls and groupies will inevitably dig into their personal lives, eager to uncover every detail surrounding him. They’ve opened a door that can’t be easily closed. I’ve noticed that other family members haven’t followed the same path, even though they could have. After watching the videos you are talking about, especially after learning more about the case, the first thought that came to my mind was, “What credibility do these people really have?” Shelley was very young when Richard was arrested, and it didn’t seem like Robert had any real connection to Richard while he was roaming the streets of LA. Everything they say should be taken with a handful of salt lol.
        I don’t watch YouTube videos about him anymore—I’m tired of the same recycled nonsense. However, I did manage to find videos from the LOLFIELDANDLOVE YouTube channel, which I believe was run by Patrick, the guy whose podcast Jay, Venning, and Kaycee were planning to appear on. Unfortunately, YouTube took the channel down, but I was able to find many of the videos on the Internet Archive. These videos are based on Programmed to Kill by David McGowan, who offers some interesting perspectives on various serial murder cases, including Richard’s. It’s one of the few channels that actually questions the official narrative and challenges what has been said about Richard’s case.

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        sarah1997

        I completely agree! I never liked Shelly sandy or Robert they are just people trying to use and gain shit through Richard’s life and death! Shelly even admitted to selling his stuff just for money! I can’t stand her lies after lies! I’m tired now of the lies! Leave Richard alone now let the poor guy rip already for once In his life! Those fan girls are going out of hand now. They imagine Richard the way they want him to be not for who he really is! To me in my eyes Richard is not a monster and to me never was a monster only those doing these awful things to him are to be called monsters!

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    sarah1997

    first off Jay I love how you do have contact with some of his family that shows you’re doing your investigation right and focused also dw out of privacy I won’t ask who it is I respect that! Rosa was a good sister to Richard and a good person in general form what I know about her! Is Shelly the kind of person you want to believe this kind of stuff about the person that stole pictures of Richard from that very aunt of hers that she said did that to her just for her sake to get money? Ya no thank you! Shelly lies!

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      It’s only one person, and thank you for not asking as I won’t break a confidence, but I do speak out on certain things. I generally steer clear of the family dramas and sagas.

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        sarah1997

        Of course! It’s only fair for them and you! Yes no worries it’s a very private matter and I will always respect that! But it’s so cool that you do have contact! Hehe

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    Isabella 99

    Are there actually other sources than YouTube and Tumblr for doing some more research ? Before I found this blog I was so happy to have found PLAIN SIGHT and sometimes I still read in Plain Site. .The crimes are described in Detail there and sometimes hard to read ..I thought about that again and again and I come to the conclusion that it was not always the same Person . Because they seem to be so different . The Carol Kyle guy compared to the one in the Bell / Lang case …? Totally different .I have to read all that again because its complicated .Well , I m a real Sherlock Holmes I guess…I have a question about Author Linendecker ..Did he publish his book before Philip Carlo ? I m not sure . But its written in a very similiar style as Carlos . And who is William Harder , I think maybe he was a pen pal ? I ve found Richards Letters on Tumblr .are there other sources ? I m not the best expert on social Media ..

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      sarah1997

      YouTube is one of the worst places to do your research and least for Richard’s case they all repeat the same shit and it has always been the same words as Carlo and Gil and anyone else. This is not a good source but I was Pinterest and some post do have pages form Carlos book of him and Richard’s interview although idk if it’s true those pages or not!

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      VenningB

      I think Linedecker was before Carlo. Because Dr Anne Evans was reading it when she assessed Richard! Weird thing for her to do…

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        sarah1997

        why would she have needed to read that book if she was assessing Richard is she’s a professional psychologist she would have had to base her research based on what she assessed of Richard no?

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        ~ Jay ~

        I assume she was reading about the LA crimes, but Linedecker is a bad source.

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        sarah1997

        Ahh ok I see. What is up with these so called “creative writing” it’s getting out of hands I wish their books were truthful like your book and blog what was the point of Carlo interviewing Richard if his end goal was to exaggerate everything and spread more lies just so he can say oh ya I got all this from Richard so no one can question me of weren’t got the information from?

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        Linedecker’s book is worse than Carlo’s.

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        VenningB

        So trashy

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        ~ Jay ~

        What did Richard say to a penpal about it? “Sorry, I didn’t like that one”. Lol

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        Isabella 99

        Yes , very weird from Evans !! That s awful that she did that ! I can not believe it . Its ..unprofessionell.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Other than Dave McGowan, in his book Programmed to Kill: the Politics of Serial Murder, no one has really looked properly at the case. (Not including this blog, obviously)
      Plain Site is the best and only reliable source of info because it’s court papers and police reports.
      Our friend on here “Yes I am Evil” had an informative Tumblr account but it was taken down.

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        sarah1997

        oh wow just cuz “yes I’m evil” is trying to spread the truth the account got taken down?! wtf! This actually makes me angry.

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        YesIAmEvil

        They accused me to have glorified violence. Of course I have not. I hate violence and, damn, I’m a woman. I’m afraid of violence and especially of getting raped etc. I believe that I had written that Richard had an exceptional (meaning it in the sense of unusual) mind, an interesting (also unusual) view on the world and that I learned a lot from/through him. Apparently that was too much for them. Maybe I wrote a little bit too positive about him, but only because all the other people feel entitled to talk about him as a monster. I was a bit the voice of the defense, but still stuck to the facts. However, I tried to get my account back or at least to get a copy of my post, but they never answered me.

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    sarah1997

    I believe that if anyone wants to do their research on Richard it’s best to get your sources from this blog and book it’s the only truthful well investigated sources anyone will ever get other places are well based on lies and misleading facts etc….. I only and will ever only trust this blog and the book!

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    Isabella 99

    By the way , Truman Capote s research on the murder of the Clutter family took 6 years ! I have a question about this incident that led to Richard to trial and to Texas Youth Council . He did a criminal trespassing / agravated assault . He was supposed to have pushed the owner of the house through a glass door which smashed then. Later Richard denied it was him …and it was a complicated Story cause the police Officer was nt really correct in handling the case . It was at a time when Richard lived at Rosa s house . It must have been after the incident at the Holiday Inn . Richard was in trouble very often from 14 to 16/17 years old. He also threw a stone through a Window of a house . When his mother was told , she just shrugged . Its really so so bad that TYC did not recognize the severity of all this !

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      ~ Jay ~

      He was continuously in trouble, and as I understand it, the person did not press charges against him. Kaycee has covered his juvenile record in one of her posts , if that helps.

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        Isabella 99

        Yes really idiotic sources ! Imagine Philip Carlo saying Richard killed 40 people ! It seems that I can not get over this ! And I also have the feeling that Carlo liked to write about sexual aspects of this case too much . I mean who wants to know about sexual preferences of all those female penpals..? I wondered about this immediately when I got to know and read this book . Just awful . Now that I ve startet reading In Cold Blood there is such a difference . But Linendecker ftom 1991 is even worse , but its the same style as Carlo , alltough Linendecker does not write one Word about the trial. Both books are ..sort of aggressiv and biased.

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        Isabella 99

        No Richard was nt charged for aggravated assault because there were no proof and also there seems to have been a deal with the police which went wrong and this was a blame for the police. But there was also this incident when Richard had been beaten up and ended up in Hospital with a swollen face. All of that led him to be brought to TYC by his parents . Obviously none of the last two incidents appeared in his records or they did not find this worth checking that ??

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    sarah1997

    nobody seems to be interested in taking their time to study the case properly either they are too lazy, they trust the original narratives too much along with Gil etc… , they don’t care, sucking up to Gil, and so much more the list goes on, and then they tell us to do our research when we are the ones who have and they haven’t lol and their sources are Gil and Carlo and those other idiot sources!

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      Isabella 99

      I have a question about Dave McGowan wether he writes about The Nightstalker case in his book ? But I try to get hold of this book anyway as MC Gowan has a completely different approach concerning serial Killers.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, he covers Richard’s case, not in depth, but well enough for questions to be asked.

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        sarah1997

        It’s seems everyone who’s written about Richard does it’s ridiculous really just for their own personal gain

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    Vivi

    Would you guys happen to know exactly how much time Richard spent at the TYC?

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      ~ Jay ~

      Under a year, probably 6 to 8 months. We’re not 100% sure.

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  42. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    it’s really sad and awful that even after Richard’s death that this BS is still happening. Also what do you guys think would have happened to Richard if he was still alive?

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    Isabella 99

    Hi Yes I m Evil , I m also sorry that they have taken down your Account. I would have loved to read what you have written !! Not even a copy they gave you.? Very bad ! I m still so much into this case and Richards life story . Alltough he s not living anymore he seems so present to me and many other people ! Lets all start a new channel ! Ha ha.

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      YesIAmEvil

      The year I started my blog I had some health problems and couldn’t work for some weeks. Later I was out of work for some more weeks. So I had a lot of time to do research. And that’s what I did, every day for hours. Sometimes I had like 30 tabs open in my browser with LA Times articles, El Paso birth, death and marriage records etc etc. I really got obsessed with the case and just wanted to know the truth. But all the things I found out you can find here too or in the book. That’s why I’m so happy that this blog and the book exist. Jay, Venning and Kaycee did what I always wanted but wasn’t capable of. This blog is way better than mine was. I had my blog for 2 years or so. I also tried to avoid the books and documentaries as sources and tried to find old newspaper articles and court documents instead. Towards the end I also found the appeal documents, but somehow not all the attachments. I believe they were not available yet as download- links. Beside the research I also posted some pictures of letters and drawings, typed out some letters and answered a lot of questions from “anons”. In the end I had more than 2000 followers. But, since my research was really time- and energy-consuming (and not healthy at all!) it was clear that I couldn’t do that forever. And of course I had to go to work again after the few weeks and later had a new job. And when they took down my account I took it as an “natural end” and stopped doing research. Also, if you do intense research, you come to the point, where you have to ask yourself if it is still right what you are doing, regarding the privacy of victims or family members. I always tried to be respectful and never published info that made it possible for other to stalk victims or family. But sometimes I felt that I went to far anyway. So, no, I wouldn’t start a new channel or anything. Although I’m of course still interested in the case. And Richard? I spent so much time doing research on him and thinking about him that he’s “running through my venes” now. Haha.. And I can “summon him” if I need him. And no, I’m not talking about violence! It’s about resilience, mental strength, the ability to make the best of a really bad situation, creativity, (sometimes dark) sense of humor, sometimes not to care about other people and their opinions or being able to just stare them down in certain situations. That’s all, it’s about survival skills and self protection or self defense, not violence or anything to harm anyone. Take this, Tumblr! 😉

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    Isabella 99

    I ask myself why the Linendecker book reads almost the same as the Carlo book . Linendecker Was two years years earlier with his book..So he must have done the research at 1990 or so. Maybe Carlo just copied Linendecker ? No , I m just joking. .

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  45. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Sorry , Linendecker s book came 1991 and Carlo s book came out 1996 .

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  46. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    it’s really crazy the amount of books they have on Richard and even people have made songs about him too! It’s so not cool

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    sarah1997

    I was on YouTube just now and saw some new comments on Richard’s recent interview release, one girl commented that saying that she studies criminology and studied Richard’s case since 2009 I think she said and so now she knows him lol they even added him to school lesson wtf

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      Isabella 99

      Yeah ..awful those experts .! I m gettin more and more annoyed about those experts on You Tube. Because their attitude is really arrogant. They re soo vain as can be !

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        sarah1997

        Right?! They act as if they know better at least with this case, like girl you basically studied about Richard on from truth but from the lies about him. Those body language experts are the same I can’t stand them how can you really know how a person is or feels you and I can be doing the same actions with our bodies but doesn’t necessarily mean we are feeling the same thing or mean the same thing!

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      Isabella 99

      ..studied criminology …and knows Richard now . I think they dont know nothing …Haha.

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        sarah1997

        hahaha you want to know Richard ok come here then and read the book!

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    sarah1997

    ok so someone just harassed/bullied me again on YouTube of an old comment of Richard I put months ago before I found your blog. 😓 that comment is so mean. I was just giving my love and support for Richard as a human being cuz I care alot about him as you guys already know and telling them to stop harassing people defending Richard and saying how there are lies about about him etc…

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    Isabella 99

    Hi Yes I m Evil , Thanks so much for answering and sorry for my late response , I had a cold. When I read what you ve written I could find myself in it 100 %. And the chronology of research is also very similiar. I ve seen all the doccos , read half of Carlos book and also the Linendecker book …And then I got really upset and started to search the Internet like crazy. And …then I found Plain Site US LEGAL DOCUMENTS ..and this made me feel better as I understood that I had found the Real documents of his case .And I began to read about Richards upbringing , TYC , the background of his parents , El Paso , and finally about the crimes , newspaper articles etc. I also began to read about the Trauma Control Model by Hickey and Arrigo. That was all parallel ,in between some more doccos and Internet research ! I also began to wonder whethr I m obsessed now..! But ..thats the way I am when I m really interested in something , haha. And then I found this super blog , which was such a Relief! Becsuse I realized that I m not the only one who s interested so much in Richards case , and because it just helped a lot in giving some answers or reasons to discuss certain aspects of this Nightstalker case. All of this is a very intense experience for me , I am very thankful for this . When I was doing all this research on Richards Biografie I felt almost like a voyeur sometimes ..but it was impossible zu stop ! And I thought that all documents are open to the public ..whether I read it or not…I m still curios about finding the truth allthough this is not easy at all. And I m also interested in this resilience theme and Richards personality , the way he went through all this , and still ..when I think about his 24 years in St. Quentin I dont have a clue how he managed to survive that long . You had 2000 followers ! WOW ! Thats great . Its such a pity that you dont have even a copy ! I have been reading some of his letters recently , and I found some really nice ones were he is really smart snd funny . He was very symphatic sweet in those letters ! Right now I m reading about Truman Capotes visit of Bobby Beausoleil in ST.QUENTIN . He s still there I think 47 years now. He was in Death Row msny years . Capote asked him about his habit of Marihuana smoking and wether you can get that in St. Quentin…Beausoleil answered that you can get everything , also Heroin if wanted .For money you can get everything , he said. So , coming back to Richard , he had to find his way to not go nuts in there . Beausoleil Was given the Chance to move away from Death Row after many years to another Block in St. Quentin. There he was allowed a guitar in his cell . When he was young he was a musician while in the Manson Gang….

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  50. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I have a question . Who is William Harder ? I think he was a pen pale of Richard ?

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      YesIAmEvil

      Harder is a “murderabilia” collector and seller, like Erik Holler too. They both were/are in contact with many (death row) inmates and bought and sold their letters , drawings and other items.

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