Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

The book is out! You can buy the ebook in the following links:

UK
France
Spain
Germany
Italy
Netherlands
Australia
USA
Canada
India
Mexico
Brazil

It should be on all of Amazon worldwide.

And the paperback is here (although they might still be unavailable in some countries – check back in a few days. They can take a while to show up!)

UK
France
Germany
Netherlands
Spain
USA
Canada

We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

VenningB

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    YOU ALREADY KNOW BUT OMG I BOUGHT THE BOOK!!!!! 😍

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  2. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    So Super ! Also just bought it …CONGRATULATION

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Thank you! I hope you think it’s good! I’m anxious about it!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        dw! I’m sure it’s more amazing than you think! This blog was really well done the book will be even better! 😁

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  3. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Drink a glas of Champagne ..! All of us…CHEERS !

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Thank you for all your support, we appreciate it so much, we really do.

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  4. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    super excited to read it!!!!!!😁 never been excited about a book before your book is the 1st! My mom is gonna be very happy in reading! 😂usually I’m more of a movie person! But this is the 1st in a book person cuz ik this book is way better than its movie! 😂

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  5. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    omg now you have your podcast to do!!!excited for that one too!!!😁

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Yes, I must get on and sort that out next.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yay! Can’t wait!!!!

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  6. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    I ordered the book today in case any future technical glitches or if it gets taken off the market.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Thank you. We have that worry, I must admit.

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    2. interesting-case Avatar
      interesting-case

      Im having issues purchasing the book. My order went through but my payment method is not working. Im trying to find other ways to purchase this. Maybe an Amazon gift card would work.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        That’s really weird. So you added to cart but couldn’t check out?

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      2. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        Jay, I was able to put in cart, checkout, order and get a delivery date but ended up getting this message:
        “Hello,
        We are having trouble authorizing your payment for the item below. Please verify or update your payment method. Payment declined.”
        I called my bank and they did not see any transaction whatsoever like it never went through. Im going to try and order it from the German Amazon later.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        I had that happen to me when I forgot to update my card on Amazon (it was out of date).
        Could that be why?

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Same, I hope it’s just that

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      5. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        It’s just my bank that got issues. The US amazon only allows credit card for me. The German amazon allows for 5 different payment options including invoice, which is good.

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Keeping fingers crossed. Amazon is actually a real pain in the arse.

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      7. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        After 24 hours, finally it worked! After hours with customer service and trial and error I managed to fix it! Book ordered! And I can finally see the transaction got through.

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      8. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Glad it finally worked. What a relief!

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      9. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        That’s great. Thank you so much and I am glad you sorted it.

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  7. pinkamira2005 Avatar
    pinkamira2005

    I’m so sad and disappointed that in Italy it’s not available at the moment 😭😭😭… I’ll try to get it from Amazon of another country.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Isn’t it? I had no idea. That’s really annoying!

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    2. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      It might take a couple of days to become available. Paperbacks are sometimes slow to appear. It wasn’t available for me until this morning either.

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      1. pinkamira2005 Avatar
        pinkamira2005

        I will be checking back on Amazon every single day. Fingers crossed, I’m full of hope.

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    3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Just adding that it should be available, we will check what’s going on.

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      1. pinkamira2005 Avatar
        pinkamira2005

        Thanks for your kindness!

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Thank you for supporting us.

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  8. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    The Cover…with those famous AVIA S is great ! So glad you ve made it.! Later today I will start reading..Yesterday night I again was thinking about Richie…..And I read the Story of Mercedes and Julian …What an exciting day ! Enjoy this Day!

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Was it available to buy in Germany? It keeps coming up as unavailable when I check all the countries.

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      1. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        It was unavailable in my country, but I bought it from the US Amazon(.com) and worked fine.

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      2. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        It was. Of course I ordered it too. It should arrive tomorrow. 🙂

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  9. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    for me here in canada it said only paperback is available not the book. But I wanted the paperback so I’m fine!

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  10. YesIAmEvil Avatar
    YesIAmEvil

    It was Saturday, not tomorrow. As you can see I ordered the paperback, but I will probably buy the ebook too. It’s easier if you want to discuss it and you want to quote from it. And also if you want to search for certain names etc.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Thank so much!

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      1. YesIAmEvil Avatar
        YesIAmEvil

        Everyone who bought Carlo’s book or who watched any Night Stalker documentary, should buy your book too. It’s just the view from the other side, that had always been missing.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yes! This.
        Why can we only discuss Carlo or Netflix? There should be balance.

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  11. SweetVice Avatar
    SweetVice

    Hey just buy the book on Amazon. I have friends who ask me for the book so I give them the link. I hope you wanna have a lot of feedback !

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  12. lwuchter Avatar
    lwuchter

    Congratulations. May this journey bring rewards and justice and most of all peace to all those who care for Richard .

    You will change history. Thank you..

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    1. interesting-case Avatar
      interesting-case

      I read on Reddit, people saying “thEy aRe tRyiNG tO rE-wRitE HiStoRy”. If any of them are familiar with “The Innocence Files” or “The Innocence Project” then yeah that’s sort of the objective. To look into infamous cases, raise questions and look at it from different angles. It doesn’t mean that everyone in the world will be, can or should be persuaded to think differently. It just allows a platform for the rest of us to expound this case from a different point of view and have a discussion. We are entitled to our opinion as much as they are. The difference is I am not hellbent on just one side. I actually sway from believing he is guilty and not guilty interchangeably. I am not a raging hardcore believer of his innocence. I need more details to make a definitive standpoint.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        what they want? For us to just believe in the lies that have been spread?! They should mind their own business it’s actually getting really annoying those guys! Them believing all the lies clearly shows they have no brain but a peanut brain! I stand with Jay venning Kaycee and Richard! so Just let me at them! 🤜🏻💥

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        It’s okay, we know what they say, but I am not being lectured by people who actually think the cops recovered poor Maxine Zazzara’s eyes from Richard’s (non existent) apartment. They need to do better research instead of talking shit on public forums.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        It bothers me that they do this stuff! It’s not fair for you guys it’s not fair for Richard it’s not fair for justice! I want to fight!

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        It’s inevitable, so don’t worry about us, really, it doesn’t matter.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Well I’m here for you all to defend you! You ain’t doing this alone!

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yep, that’s pretty much what it’s all about, looking at the stuff that was kept out of the court room. We’ve never said he was innocent, but we do say very loudly that his trial was a total fuck up. And we should be allowed to say so and show why.

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      7. lwuchter Avatar
        lwuchter

        If I gave a crap about Redit…I’m comment. Bt, I consider the sources.

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Exactly that.

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  13. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    well done very well done on this book once again Jay venning Kaycee!!! I’m truly honoured to be your 3 supporters! This book will always be remembered! You 3 deserve a round of applause 👏🏻

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  14. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes I bought it as e book and I ve already started reading . I ll by the paperback as well .

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Just checking because sometimes the paperback takes a few days longer to appear for sale.

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  15. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    LMAO while I was searching for the paperback version of the book, the Reddit thread came up as the third search result. All I can say is that some of the comments are embarrassing. If you’re going to criticize someone and outright call them liars, at least have some knowledge of what you’re talking about. When I discuss this case with others, I generally refrain from debating guilt or innocence because I don’t want to impose my beliefs or opinions on them. However, I can say with 100% certainty that he was not given a proper legal defense, and the evidence used to convict him was weak. No matter who they are, everyone deserves competent attorneys who are experienced enough to provide a proper defense. It is their constitutional right! Slam dunk case my butt!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      It’s strange that the ones who bully and shout loudest have the least interesting things to say.

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Isn’t that often the case? It seems like they rely on volume and aggression to compensate for the lack of substance in their arguments. It’s a lot easier to shout down others than to engage in thoughtful, meaningful calm discussion. Plain childish if you ask me.

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        It was always going to be like this, but it comes from a place of ignorance.
        I will never understand why some people just cannot look at court documents and have an intelligent discussion about it. Whether they have the same opinion or not, they should be able to behave like balanced, rational human beings.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Anyone can get on the internet and spew accusations and insults, acting all intelligent and confident. But if these people were confronted in person about the things they say behind a screen, it would be as if they swallowed glue or something—they’d be speechless. Initially, I felt like confronting them, but they’re not worth it. It’s not worth the harassment. I’m just glad I have you wonderful people to discuss it with! 😊

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        We are very happy to discuss this with all of you, and thank you for participating and offering your useful and intelligent insights and thoughts. THIS is how it’s done, and here we talk, we don’t argue. You’re right, you just can’t have a conversation with that kind of mindset, and so it’s really not worth wasting time and oxygen over. They can stay in their lane.

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    2. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Oh dear haha. He asked for expert opinion, got a bunch of know-nothings in a circle jerk and is satsisfied with it.

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      1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Then went off and posted the exact same thing on another thread. Wasn’t he blocking anyone who tried to say we were sharing the lawyers arguments and we hadn’t invented it?

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  16. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    ok is everyone just as excited about reading this book as I am?! Cuz I’m seriously super duper excited! Check checking Amazon to see if it came every 5-10 mins 😂

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  17. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Hope we still can ask your opinion when there are questions .?! ..

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Definitely!

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    2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Of course you can. I always say we don’t have all the answers, but we’ll try.

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  18. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Cheers guys ..! This is a special Day Richard would like it .

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  19. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    this definitely deserves a celebration well done you 3!! Richard indeed would be happy!😃

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  20. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I love the suspect recaps and evidence summaries you guys included throughout the book. They helped me better comprehend the material and keep track of important details as I moved on to read about the other crimes.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Venning did a masterful job at that, it really helps keep it all tight and together. She really is a genius.

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  21. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’ll definitely let ya guys know how the book is! But seriously once again thanks for never putting me down or judging me on my opinion even if we don’t share the same or some of them we do you were so sweet and respectful about you never forced me to change how I feel! It means a lot to me you have no idea! Bless you 3 and same goes for everyone else on this blog!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      We would never put you down for anything you say, you came here with an open mind (and an open heart) why would be anything other than respectful to you? Our way is not their way, and it never will be.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        You are truly amazing people and very good people we need more of that! I’d definitely hire you 3 as my lawyers if I ever need it! 😂👍🏻 thank you again! Can’t wait to read this awesome book and give you guys feedback! If you want!

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  22. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    the book has just shipped!!!!!!!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Good news!

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        sarah1997

        Super good news!!!!! I’m so excited!!!! Thank you thank you thank you once again!!!!! I can’t wait to read it!!!!!

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  23. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Hi..As I was reading in the book I asked myself whether Richard was ever cross examined during the trial and where are the rest of the TV recordings ? And …what about the role of drug abuse ? There are still quite a lot of questions. ..For example about the Image he got by Philip Carlos book..And …what was Richards personaltiy like when he moved to L.A. …In my opinion he must have had mental problems already at that time…And when captured he had lost 9 of his teeth apart from the other ruined ones. I mean ..what did he ? This alone is so crazy …! It s hair rising ..Even when I see heavily addicted or homeless people in the streets over here .I keep thinking about his drug abuse and ruining himself so relentlessly and selfdestructive.

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Richard (according to news reports) took the stand only once, and that was to deny he confessed. It doesn’t feature in the petition, though.

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    2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Just adding in that the news report I mentioned is in attachment document 19, attachment 5. (That’s off the top of my head, as currently at work, so I can’t post it here as I am not near my laptop).

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    3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Hi, there will always be questions, we have no idea what happened to all the footage, I imagine it’s in the archives somewhere; or it’s been destroyed. But you never know, maybe one day it will resurface; it does exist, George Woods, one of the psychiatrists, viewed a few hours of it. Richard definitely had mental problems by the time he went to LA, he’d been suffering for quite a few years.

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  24. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I corrct myself. When he moved to L.A.he must have had IMMENSE psychic and mental problems already !

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  25. pinkamira2005 Avatar
    pinkamira2005

    I just ordered my copy: they’ll deliver to me on Monday, here in Italy ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻 I’m so excited, I can’t wait anymore! I spred the news to my YouTube friends as well.

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Thank you so much!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        amazing art work once again venning! You drew all that correct?!

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I did indeed! Thanks!

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Amazing just beautiful I wish I can draw as good as you! Always loved drawing aha! omg you can make good money from your art work!! I’d definitely buy it! Hehe

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Thanks so much for your support Sarah. I feel I don’t thank people enough. It truly means a lot to have you all appreciating our hard work and enjoying the blog.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha don’t worry at all! You thank us a lot! Sometimes it’s hard to get back at people cuz there’s so much comments! Of course i appreciate your work very much you worked hard and are fighting for soemthing true and real and aren’t like other people! You’re all amazing people and deserve all this love and support!

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        You’re very kind, but there are many who don’t quite get what we’re about.

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      7. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ik those guys are just whatever they are just adopted kids of GIL that try to empress him and suck up to
        Him they all whacked. But you have us and always will!

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        They come in many shapes and guises, Sarah, but we definitely don’t want people getting themselves banned from places because of us.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Oh dw idc if I get banned! I stand with you guys 🤜🏻💥😁

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    2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      That’s great! So glad you were finally able to get it. Hope you enjoy it, and thank you.

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  26. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I had to reschedule my delivery for my book instead of coming today I said tomorrow cuz I’m literally out all day today for an event and I’m scared it will be stolen if someone isn’t home but good thing it has shipped to my book now is coming tomorrow!!!!!

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  27. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    my book is out for delivery now!!!!😁

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Jay and I have just opened ours!

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yay!! Omg I’m so excited!!!
        Also if we have any questions about the book or anything are we still allowed to ask questions?

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Of course!

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yaaay!!! Thank you!!!
        This book better not leave the market I’ll actually be so mad at Amazon if they do that

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I legitimately wouldn’t cope!

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I wouldn’t either!
        I was searching about other things about Richard on Amazon and I see a lot of posters and t-shirts of him and so many other books!

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Of course, remember the blog came first, and nothing has changed where that’s concerned. We just slowed down with the posts because we had said so much. We’re not going any where now that the book is out. We’re still around.

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      7. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Sweet awesome! I’m glad you’re still gonna be around! I don’t think anyone else would answer the questions we want answered only you guys so that so thank you!

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      8. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        As I always say, we don’t have all the answers, but we will try and answer anything, and of course, everyone else is welcome to join in the discussions.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Of course! I just wish we all had the answers to everything I’m just such a curious person I need to know EVERYTHING!😂

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      10. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Oh if only..

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      11. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        You’re the best all 3 of you! Very kind people!

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      12. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        We’ve only seen it in document form up til now, it’s massive. Hahaha!

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  28. interesting-case Avatar
    interesting-case

    Do you guys plan on going on a podcast now after the launch of the book? Is there any podcast out there currently wanting to discuss RR’s case that doesn’t just do their own mini-docu and own conclusions?

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      ~ Jay ~

      Hi, yes, we will be arranging the podcast before too long, we are just taking a bit of a breather. We were invited to go on “Programmed to Kill” (checkout his YouTube channel ) and we agreed. I will be contacting him in the near future to sort it out.

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      1. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        OK, will check out the channel!

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      2. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        His channel was apparently banned and taken down by Youtube 2 weeks ago.

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      3. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Yeah, I’ve just seen that. I am a member of his website, but we’ve been so focused on the book I hadn’t noticed. I will have to email him, but I am sure we’ll work something out,

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      4. interesting-case Avatar
        interesting-case

        He has uploaded his content on Rumble instead. His channel name on Rumble is: LOLFIELDANDLOVE

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      5. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Poor Patrick! He’s had that channel for years, and he’s done so much work. His website is still up programmedtokill.net

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  29. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    my book just came in!!!!! It looks amazing the amount of work you guys did on it is just amazing and beautiful! And real heavy! 😂

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      Yay! I am so happy it arrived.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Just finished section 1 Maria’s part very well written very easy to understand Everything

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I’m glad it’s easy to follow. That was my aim, its important to break it down because the entire Night Stalker case is so dense.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        It’s such a crazy case! But it was super easy to follow really well written easy to understand and each section was very well displayed and discussed

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  30. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    why was his channel banned?

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      I imagine because of what he talks about. He’s following on the work of Dave McGowan, who did call into question the Ramirez case about twenty-five years ago. Much of Patrick’s work is dedicated to the politics behind serial murder.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        This is seriously getting on my nerves. People who ask questions or have doubts about this case get banned?! How is this fair?! They want to shut our mouths we ain’t doing anything wrong! If others don’t question anything and just accept the original narrative they get kept?! Not fair at all! Messed up!

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Sadly it’s the way of the world. It’s not fair at all.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        We have to stand up to them they want us to shut our mouths! Sadly for them I won’t stop!

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        interesting-case

        Has Patrick made any videos previously of RR? There are so many videos in his archives I don’t know where to begin to look. Or maybe he’s soley focused on other high profile cases.

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        VenningB

        There were two really old ones that had had excerpts from the Richard chapter of David McGowan’s Programmed to Kill book on. They must have been over 15 years old

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  31. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I was watching this interview with Gil just now about why Richard “didn’t kill any children” it’s a story post on YouTube. Gil said Richard asked him “why am I the way I am?” I’m kinda confused as to what Richard was asking? Or did he even ask that to Gil is also another question?

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      There’s no way of knowing the truth of that. Gil makes things up, as you know.

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        sarah1997

        He’s crazy Gil ughhh… but I just finished party 1 of the book!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Are you enjoying it?

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        sarah1997

        Oh yes very much! I’m really loving it and really enjoying it! 100/10👌🏻👍🏻😁

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        I’m so glad you’re enjoying it.

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        sarah1997

        When’s the movie coming out hahaha?!

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        sarah1997

        I really love how each page each paragraph are separate from each other makes it so easy to read and follow along!!!

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    sarah1997

    sometime it’s so hard to keep track of all of Gil’s lies cuz there’s so many! And you get wondering if it’s true or not! He talks a lot of BS but has no proof of his claims people just believe him automatically cuz he’s a cop and that makes me mad!

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    sarah1997

    ok I woke up at 7 am to read the book and finished part 2 now!!! On to part 3!!!! Getting a better understanding of this case now!!! And those damn Avias the whole time reading about those shoes I looked angry 😂

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      ~ Jay ~

      Now you can see why Venning and I nearly burned out our retinas looking at those sole patents. Hahaha!

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        sarah1997

        Hahaha those shoes will give me nightmares for sure

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    sarah1997

    I seriously can’t stop reading this book I can’t put in down it’s addictive haha! Just wanted to say to you 3 (Jay, venning, Kaycee) that this book is truly well done and super amazing! Leaving a lot from this book! Congrats on a job well done! Can’t wait for the movie to come! 😂

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      Haha!! Glad you’re enjoying it but I don’t think a movie will emerge.

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        sarah1997

        It would be so amazing and nice to see your book as a movie too finally see the other side! Rather than see the lying side. But yes sadly I don’t see it happening either maybe one day!!! But yes I’m really enjoying it!! Already on part 4!!!!😁

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        Wow! You’re certainly getting through it, and it’s great to hear. Thank you for letting us know.

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        sarah1997

        Yes of course! You need to know how among the book! My parents have been trying to get me to read didn’t work 😂 but with you guys it worked for me for sure! 👍🏻

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        I think it’s easier to read a book about a subject we are interested in, for sure. Keep going!

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        sarah1997

        Oh yes definitely! This book is also something I’m fight for it’s very important information that people have and need to know! To stop believing in the lies of GILY boy! I will keep on going till I finish this whole book!

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  35. YesIAmEvil Avatar
    YesIAmEvil

    Today I finally got my paperback. Saturday I had apparently missed the delivery person and they brought it to the next post office, where I could pick it up only today. (Yes, in Germany is really everything closed on Sundays!) But of course I couldn’t wait until today and so I have already bought the ebook too. I just finished reading about the orange Toyota in Orange County. The start was not so easy for me. Not being used to reading books on my phone it felt a bit like driving stop-and-go. But that had nothing to do with the book. I agree that it is very well written, easy to read and I didn’t have any problems to understand your English. And of course I like that slight sarcasm shining through between the lines. (You’re so mean! I love it! 😉 ) l also have some questions already. The problem is that I don’t have time to discuss them. I have a book to read! 🙂

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      Hi! So glad you got your book. Ask away, when you have time, hopefully we will have the answer, but (as you know) it’s impossible to know everything. We’ll clarify as best as we can. Thank you for your feedback so far.

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        YesIAmEvil

        I will ask my questions later under the respective blog entry. But maybe I’ll already find the answer later in the book. I could search for the name in the book, but I prefer not to jump back and forth before I have once read the entire book.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I am looking forward to the discussions to come.

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    sarah1997

    I LOVE THIS BOOK!!!! Ok I think now released all my excitement for this book, actually maybe I didn’t! My excitement for this book is endless hehe ♾️! Ok now back to reading!

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      ~ Jay ~

      We’re very happy to know you like it. Thank you.

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        sarah1997

        No it’s us that should be thanking you! It means a lot to me and I’m sure a lot of us for what you’re doing! You’ve risked a lot! Of course I like this book! I love it this book! This book is the only book that I’ve ever considered special to me! This book is literally like a drug for me it’s so addictive where bed I’ll read once I close the book my mind is like read more! And same in the morning! I’ve never been like this till now! I love it! Haha

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  37. YesIAmEvil Avatar
    YesIAmEvil

    It’s 6.45 am here. And no, I haven’t slept yet. I can’t stop reading. Fortunately I don’t need to work this week. I’ve always been a night owl, but usually that means to stay awake until 3 am, not 7 am. On the other hand it’s not the first sleepless night that I have because of Richard. I can remember research nights with like 30 tabs with LA Times articles open or searching birth, marriage, death or arrest records for certain names. Haha, if they would have asked me to search for someone called Rick or so, who got arrested for car theft in December 1984, I probably would have found him. 😉

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      You could have joined us the night we researched Avia patent numbers and examined each sole in minute detail. We did not go to bed.
      Our eyeballs felt like they were bleeding! Hahaha!

      This case does cause sleepless nights, it’s true.

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        YesIAmEvil

        Of course I did search for Avia patents too. But I wasn’t as successful as you were. I knew there were other Avia models with similar sole patterns, which came out before 1985, but I didn’t know how many models it were and I knew about the different heels, but nothing about the damn dam touching the lines or circles or whatever it was. Really good job! 👍

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        VenningB

        I wish there was a catalogue available. I considered contacting the company in America but was too lazy in the end.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Remember I contacted Lisa DiMeo to ask for hers? Lol
        Shame she destroyed them two years ago. I would’ve loved her notes.

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        VenningB

        It’s such a massive shame

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        sarah1997

        almost 1 am here and I’m getting ready to read part 4! It really is hard to close this book! Hahaha

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      VenningB

      I pulled an all-nighter trying to work out how Carrillo got from his theories right to the time Richard was arrested. I had to work it out backwards because it didn’t make sense forwards.

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        sarah1997

        in general anything Gil says doesn’t make senses and it’s like ok you say something but dude where’s your proof?! Ppl are. Ray to believe the words of his mouth without proof like doesn’t matter if he’s a cop he still needs the proof! And not fake proof REAL proof

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        interesting-case

        Maybe it’s called “manifesting”, by someway wanting it to be true, it becomes. 🥴 🧚🏻‍♂️

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    sarah1997

    I truly believe someone knew Richard all to well during his stealings and just saw him as an easy target. Cuz to catch a so called “skilled” criminal would take time and along time Richard was way to easy to arrest for someone who was accused of being the night stalker whom was skilled etc.. it’s just doesn’t make Sense

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    sarah1997

    I’m curious about something, every killer that has been caught have admitted to their crimes at some point after their arrest! Wouldn’t Richard have done that too at some point after his arest if he did any of those crimes? he kept insisting he didn’t in watkiss interview, there would have been no need to appeal for him then if he did, cuz if Richard did do anything what’s the point of denying anything cuz he’s now caught and there’s no point in denying anything cuz he wouldn’t be able to be free again. So it makes me wander maybe there was multiple killers and Richard knew at least a few cuz maybe they also knew solano and maybe solano told them about Richard or something then that satanic thing and swearing Satan. Cuz I mean why would he constantly deny being the killer when he got arrested?!

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      VenningB

      Exactly, all this! Some people claim his lawyers just forced him to keep denying it but he never slipped up. Women who write to killers say others were happy to talk about their crimes but Richard was the one who always told them he didn’t want to talk about his convictions.

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        sarah1997

        Cuz as Richard loved true crime I’d expect him to love talking to his writers about it, but he politely declined. Even during interviews he kept saying he can’t talk about this or that while other killers during interviews have gladly shared their view point.

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        interesting-case

        I think RR revelled in the attention in the beginning and wanted to be associated with those crimes, but as time went on and he lived his years in prison (and maybe sobered up a little) he wanted to appeal because he began to reevaluate his life. I was surprised to hear him say he “meditates” in his cell in that interview. Like he sort of slipped up that he’s not this satanic worshipper he kept telling everyone he was. I think maybe he knew himself he would lose his mind if he didn’t meditate. But meditating doesn’t rhyme with satanic worship.

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        VenningB

        I’m glad he did something to keep himself sane… It’s good he was doing mindfulness stuff. I guess when you’re neglected and suddenly you have adulation, he did was he needed to, to please the women writing to him. And of course he got commissary money and “hot photos” in return.

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        I agree with you, he adopted the “notoriety” for a while. I saw him mentioning chakras in a letter, so he was looking into spirituality, and not Satanism. I think that was all part of his media image, in some regard. Although he obviously dabbled in his own version of Satanism during his life, he called it a “stabilising force”.
        I think he needed to practice mindfulness, and it was interesting to hear him say he meditated. I believe he did yoga too, or so I read.

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  40. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I think he was just hiding his true self with the person people created for him by the world! He didn’t want ppl to see his weakness he wanted to live up to this bad boy reputation they have him or something, didn’t his father always tell him and his siblings to never show their true self?!

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      VenningB

      And playing up to the terrifying killer role was probably also an act to protect yourself in prison.

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        sarah1997

        Exactly! I think deep down he was honestly really scared but showing that part of him would mean people would call him weak! Maybe also because he thought if he played that role it would make him cool, he talked a lot about the minds of serial killers as if he wanted us to know he very knowledgeable about them even tho he’s said things that anyone would basically know about a killer so nothing really “oh wow” I think he really did care about him self even tho he said he didn’t why else would you meditate?!

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        VenningB

        A lot of it was bravado and trying to impress girls. If he pretends not to care, then he’s taking power away from those who incarcerated him, like “I’m not bothered!”

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        sarah1997

        Exactly! That the impression he gave me that he was just trying to take the power way from them to unsatisfy them! But deep inside he did care! Just never showed it! After reading this book things are making much more sense to me now! I still have questions tho haha on part 7 now!

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        ~ Jay ~

        Yes, absolutely. Plus his groupies got off on it.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Yes, and that’s what Rosa told him when he broke down when she first saw him after his arrest. She said it’s what their father told them. “Never show the copper”. (Never show your true self)

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        sarah1997

        Yes! I remember her say that! I guess from that he truly never knew how to show or express his true self he wa always thought to hide his emotions I guess to not look weak! And cuz of his awful sad childhood he just didn’t want to get hurt again so he showed the world this “killer” that they wanted so badly to see without ppl truly understanding him! It’s so sad poor RR

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    sarah1997

    also I truly don’t believe he was a true satanist, the way he asking around it amd talking about it, it just doesn’t scream satanist. It think he that maybe if he was a Satanist people would fear him and not hurt him anymore. He really was trying to protect himself I believe. Cuz I recall in one letter he wrote where he states he believes In god and Santana’s being a spirit or something like that! I might be wrong tho!

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      VenningB

      I’m not knowledgeable about Satanism at all but I had the impression he did his own thing with it. Richiesatanism lol. Maybe I read it in one of his letters.

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        sarah1997

        He did also mention he never was part of any satanic cult too so maybe he was just interested in the aspect of it.

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    YesIAmEvil

    May I post a link to one of Richard’s letters that I typed out some years ago, bc. nobody could read his handwriting. My account was deleted, but some people had shared my post, so it is still available. And I think this letter is worth saving it. If it’s not ok, just delete my post. (But save the letter and my handwriting deciphering work , haha. ) https://www.tumblr.com/dreamyangelic/152620753390/yes-i-am-evil-yes-i-am-evil

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      ~ Jay ~

      Hi, thank you. I will read this later.

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      interesting-case

      Thanks, I appreciate the transcription.

      [img]https://i.ibb.co/9wVSdfF/Screenshot-20240827-183215-Chrome.jpg[/img]

      I enjoyed reading the last part of the letter. Gives more insight.

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        YesIAmEvil

        Thank you! And for most of the answers you can imagine what the question was.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Thanks for this, it is so interesting, and as he said “Stay away from the books”.. until now. I found it quite insightful and sad.

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        VenningB

        I wonder if he would like our book… I mean apart from the bit that talks about his family 🫢

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        ~ Jay ~

        Hmm.. I think he’d prefer it to Carlo or Linedecker, that’s for sure. Not sure he’d be entirely happy about us laying everything bare, after all, he did his best to hide it for years.

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        VenningB

        “he hates me, you can tell” r.e. Linedecker. I mean…he could have people that respect him as a human writing it or he could have some grifting sensationalist author…

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      VenningB

      Thanks for transcribing it. It must have been difficult. I think his writing was nice but the people who share his cursive letters always upload in low quality and they’re impossible to read.

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    interesting-case

    Thanks, I appreciate the transcription.

    https://i.ibb.co/9wVSdfF/Screenshot-20240827-183215-Chrome.jpg

    I enjoyed reading the last part of the letter. Gives more insight.

    If you admins want, you can delete my previous comment. I attached the image link wrongly.

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  44. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    it seemed that Richard really cared about his pen pals he even said in that letter he’s noticed her looking sad and if she has a sad life. He has said many times he’s never cared how other felts or something but I feel deep down he did even about him self! And just didn’t want to admit it cuz again “bad boy” reputation.

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      YesIAmEvil

      Synn was for sure one of the pen pals he really liked. She was a Satanist, they had a lot in common. A lot to talk about, knowing the other would understand. But nevertheless they were writing for about a year only. She was one of them who came and left… There are more letters to her, also one or two in which you could feel that the relationship was ending (like him asking why she didn’t write him or why her letter was so short etc) Idk if anything happened between them or if it just faded.

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        sarah1997

        That’s so sad he met someone who’s finally had something in common with him and she just left him like that! I’m sure she just did it to sell the letters.

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        YesIAmEvil

        I don’t think so, but she had this (underground) magazine Satans Sweet Slavery and wanted to do an interview with Richard. And Richard asked her for nudes (+stamps and money) as he did with other pen pal too… So both had their egoistic interests . But I think many penpals started to sell their letters only after Richard had died.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Didn’t he find out that some were selling them on Ebay or something?

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        sarah1997

        Ahhhh ok gotcha but still that’s so sad 😞

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        YesIAmEvil

        It is. 😦

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        sarah1997

        Poor Richard. Doesn’t matter what people say i truly care for RR. I have a big heart that’s never ends I can’t help it!

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        VenningB

        I wonder if some of them cut him off because they found a partner in real life and they didn’t like their girlfriends writing to Ramirez.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I imagine that happened.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think it’s sad, and I am inclined to think they only wrote to him because of his notoriety and nothing else. I write to a friend who’s incarcerated, he’s not on death row (thank God) but he’s not getting out any time soon. He’s not famous, though. and I keep our correspondence private, which is something Richard’s penpals didn’t do. I wrote to him knowing it was something I would commit to, as long as we struck up a good friendship, which we did. He’s from the same culture and background as Richard, similar upbringing, too. Put it this way, he helped me understand things a lot more.

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    interesting-case

    This letter must’ve been written around 2002 and his age would have been 42 years.

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      sarah1997

      I wonder what about his health making him feel downhill?!

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        YesIAmEvil

        i just went through the letters that I have saved and in one (July ’98) letter to Synn he writes that he is doing ok, except for his problems with his back. Then In an undated card to Merle Allin he wrote that he had been sick for 3 months. But that could also have been an excuse for not having written for a while. That was the context, in which he wrote it. So I don’t know if he really was sick for that long.

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        sarah1997

        Hmmmm interesting 🤔

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      YesIAmEvil

      The letter is dated Aug. 98. He also wrote that he has been locked up 13 years.. 1985+13=1998 😉

      Idk what he had, but I’ve heard that there was a time when he did have health problems. But I don’t think that it had to do with his liver or cancer. I don’t remember where I’ve “heard” (read) it.

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        sarah1997

        hahaha omg I was just 1 years old back then 😂

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        interesting-case

        Ah yes. I counted from the time he got sentenced, 1989, not when he was arrested 1985. I think his court hearings lasted 4 years so my mind just did different mental gymnastics.

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        interesting-case

        I read that he had chronic, recurrent infections due to his Hepatitis C, probably long before his cancer.

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think read that somewhere, too, not sure where or what the source for it was.

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    sarah1997

    you know Jay and venning personally believe Richard would love you book even tho some parts world bring back the trauma for sure like family section. But I know he’d appreciate it cuz you didn’t make shit up you did proper research and you’re giving the best defence he’s ever gonna get! I think he’s looking at us rn smiling happy that not everyone is buying the lies and BS!

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    sarah1997

    are you able to see who’s bought the book or at least how many people did? I’m curious to know how many people got the book you guys wrote!

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      VenningB

      You can only see the countries it was bought from. There’s been 40 but also people read it through the borrows system

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        sarah1997

        Ohhh ok I see! Also I wonder if any groupie fangirls got it!😂

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        ~ Jay ~

        I am not sure they’d like it, to be honest. Well, not the ones who get off on dead body pics and the mental image of murder.

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        sarah1997

        I’m praying they don’t tell Gil!! 🙏🏻

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        ~ Jay ~

        Of course they will.. LOL

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        sarah1997

        Ya I knew it tbh ugh when will this end idk I hope soon! Cuz it’s getting out of hand now!

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        ~ Jay ~

        It is inevitable he will know, what will be will be..

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        sarah1997

        That’s what I was afraid of!

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    sarah1997

    so any one of you guys believe that any of his pen pals were real with him, or were just in it to sell the letters knowing they would sell well? Idk what to believe about this! Cuz one phone call recording of a guy named Rick stating that he owns a night club or something but later found out he and his wife were just faking it or something?

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      YesIAmEvil

      Or if you think of Jason Moss (the author of “The Last Victim”), who faked to be a Satanist and when he didn’t write for a while he told Richard he had been in jail for beating up his (imaginary) girlfriend.

      I think there were some pen pals who were real with Richard, but it still can’t be a balanced relationship. Richard was a celebrity, people knew a lot about him, but he didn’t know anything about them. Today we would call it a parasocial relationship probably. On the other hand, people contacted him, he didn’t need to contact anyone first, so he always knew already that they were kind of interested in him. Then again, the others all had a life outside, could come and go as they wanted. Richard couldn’t go anywhere, just sit in his cell and “wait” what would come to him. It just couldn’t be a normal relationship.

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        sarah1997

        He did also state that girls are way nicer to him cuz of the situation he’s in and that they talked about relationships and they get to live theirs while he’s just talking about them but that he says good friendships were formed or something?

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        YesIAmEvil

        He said something like that in his Hustler interview, if I remember it correctly. It’s not available online, unfortunately. It cost me 15 € to get it.

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        sarah1997

        Jeez what can’t anything on him be available like seriously why all this hiding?! Also do you know any more letters by him I have a site I read his letters but I’ve read them too many times I curious the other letters?

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        YesIAmEvil

        I have done most of my research in 2018/19. Then my tumblr blog was deleted and I lost all my posts. I had spent a lot of time with my research on Richard. And somehow it was clear that I couldn’t do that forever. I knew that one day I had to return to my real life. So I took my deleted account as a sign and stopped doing research. That’s why I’m not up to date anymore regarding websites with letters etc. I just tried to find his letters to Merle Allin, who also sounded as if Richard really liked him. But I couldn’t find them anymore. They used to be on Merle’s Myspace account. But I believe he also sold them some time ago. I did find some interesting letters also searching Facebook photos for Richard Ramirez. I just tried, but if I do there is just everything full of a certain book. 😉

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        sarah1997

        Haha you need to have your own life for sure it’s took dw about it! This case tbh will take a life time to complete it’s crazy! But this book by Jay venning & Kaycee really help you to understand the case better!

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        sarah1997

        Also there are just too many letters to keep track of them all haha

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        VenningB

        Yeah I’ve been trying to find one where he consoles a girl who was molested as a kid and said he was too and “the less said about that, the better”. I always thought I had it saved but can’t find it anywhere. The internet has an absolute sea of them.

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        sarah1997

        I’ve never heard of this letter! Now I want to read it! I wonder where they can all be. I have this site I saved full of his letters and they keep adding more every few weeks

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        ~ Jay ~

        I think I have screen shots of part of that.

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        YesIAmEvil

        I think what he said in the Hustler interview was that girls are nice to have (!) in his situation, not that they are nice or nicer bc of his situation. But online I have seen the wrong quote too. People understand what they want and then they spread it as facts.

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        sarah1997

        Awwww I’m happy he had ppl to write to! But ya I agree with you!

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    sarah1997

    I’m happy Jay to here he’s not on death row! And that your friendship is private and still strong! I pray for him as well that he’s ok! Why are people so mean just cuz I care about Richard?! They told me stuff like wait till he kills too then 😞

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      ~ Jay ~

      There has never been much else written about the trial, other than what’s already out there. There’s a fixed mindset, you can’t budge it, and humans are herd animals; not everyone thinks that deeply about anything, they will follow the crowd.

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        sarah1997

        I’m just happy we aren’t like that I’m in for the truth not lies! Justice for Richard/his family & the victims!

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      ~ Jay ~

      No, he’s not a killer or a rapist. He did bad things, but I don’t find him a bad person.

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        sarah1997

        That’s good! That’s nice of you to be a good friend to him! Most people would have left him as they did with Richard so so sad! I’d definitely Ofc say friends with him too even Richard. Things need to be kept private not everyone needs to know eveything

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        ~ Jay ~

        It helps with his mental health.

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        sarah1997

        That’s so sweet it sure does i suffer from mental health too and I don’t really have anyone that really makes me feel good my family try but they just don’t know the right way for me.

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    sarah1997

    they literally told me wait till he kills you! Wtf!!!

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      ~ Jay ~

      Who did? And how on earth is a dead man going to kill you?

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        sarah1997

        someone on YouTube on Fatos account before i found yours. I deleted the whole comment that I wrote it was crazy. Like don’t think he wouldn’t kill you too. To Fatos and I

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        ~ Jay ~

        Oh yes, I know her account. She doesn’t post much now,

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        sarah1997

        She stopped but on her community she posted some facts

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