Expendable For A Cause.

The Railroading Of Richard Ramírez

The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez

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We are so excited! But of course, the day couldn’t pass without problems. Yesterday was supposed to be launch night. The ebook went on very quickly without a hitch. Then the paperback was rejected despite identical contents… why? Amazon claimed that the book was already out there in the public domain and in an unspecified foreign language. They demanded I send proof of my right to translate the book to English, and provide details of the original writer, including their death details. WHAT?! I wasn’t told about this problem for six hours after the rejection either, so I had no idea what went wrong.

Anyway, I responded with a load of “IT’S MINE! I HAVE PROOF!!” evidence, and had to wait another six hours for resolution. We didn’t want to announce it until they were both for sale and it totally ruined launch night. I’m terrified it will happen again so hurry and buy the book!

Venning, Kaycee and Jay

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2,026 responses to “The Appeal of the Night Stalker: The Railroading of Richard Ramirez”

  1. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I forgot to add that Bobby BeauSoleil found out later that Capote changed parts of the Interview at St. Quentin and used it for his own purpose ! Thats a parallel line to Richard and Carlo…Oh those authors can t be trusted …?

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    1. YesIAmEvil Avatar
      YesIAmEvil

      Unfortunately I don’t know anything about Bobby BeauSoleil and not much about the Manson case either. So I can’t say anything regarding the case or Capotes book. Of course I know about many American murder cases, but I didn’t delve into any of them, except for Richards. I’m more interested in German unsolved cases and did research on some of them.

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes , Bobby BeauSoleil is interesting for me as he represents the time of the Satanic Panic and the Manson Aera …He was engaged in the L.A. music scene of that time ..an intelectual murderer.so to speak ..And Truman Capote did use this Interview for his own purpose ..and he also changed parts of it , just like Carlo. In addition B.B. speaks about life in St.Quentin…like he said you can get any drugs there , even Heroin…as long ad there s money . But thats nothing new in prisons ..Also he speaks about what he d doing in order not to go completely mad in there. ..He painted a lot , also he wrote lots of letters to fans…And he also married a woman who wrote him letters.. He was allowed to make music and record a CD..He adjusted to this situation , and makes the best out of it . Otherways he gone mad a long time ago. He is in prison nearly 50 YEARS ! There are parallels to Richard . B.B did try a lot to be resilient ..and succeded so far . But he was moved to another prison and he s not on Death Row anymore. He hopes to get free when his next appeal is a positive one.

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  2. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Do you guys think Richard would still have been the prime suspect if the July incident with the stolen car and the pentagram drawing hadn’t occurred?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      I honestly don’t think he would have. That was the turning point where it became him.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        is this so only cuz of the pentagram he was convicted?

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I believe it’s the only reason he came under the scope of the police. Carrillo read teletypes of other crimes that he had nothing to do with. The pentagram probably made him stand out

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        It’s crazy tho cuz there were other crimes where there were no pentagrams and based on my research and understanding of criminals they always have a signature so know that it’s them Richard didn’t have to at other than the pentagram but then again he’s not the only guy that likes drawing that!

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      4. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        His “m.o. was no m.o” . There was barely any connection between the crimes. Some seemed to have been committed during the day others at night. Some of the victims were robbed and others weren’t, even if the valuables were in plain sight. Some were murdered and others were assaulted but, left very much alive. There was too many inconsistencies for them to have been done by one killer. Some of crimes might’ve been committed by one person. But others have little to no evidence or testimony connecting them.

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      5. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Then Carrillo conveniently explains it away as victims either fighting or acquiescing that determined their fate – because “Rich told me.” Prove it!

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      6. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Maria Hernandez didn’t fight back, but she wasn’t murdered despite the killer seeing her a second time. She was unarmed and injured and yet the killer just lowered the gun and left.

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      7. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        We are on holiday in Los Angeles right now (sorry for delayed replies and comment approvals!). We have been to the archives and had a look at some preliminary hearing papers. One said that Maria Hernandez only saw him for two seconds! The light in the garage remained on for eight but she only saw him for two of those. It all happened very quickly. We will make a post on our discoveries when we return to the UK.

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      8. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Sometimes I wish someone would sit him down and grill him on all the stupid stuff he says. But I doubt that he has the balls to do a unscripted interview.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Every crime has a connections except this case! Richard was a complete scrapgoat with his state I just don’t see him as a killer at all even if there are crime that do look bad for him to me he definitely seemed to have been framed! His capture was just too easy compared to others. Nothing makes sense the more you get into the case the more you realize it’s most likely done by other people not Richard just like Doreen I too believe completely in his innocence. I don’t think Richard had any idea what the hell is going on if he was clueless in court he’d also be clueless in outside world you’re not gonna change just like that or right away you go from nervous jumpy messy their like Sandra and Eva said about Richard to scary monster killer etc… over night it just doesn’t make sense or add up. To me these crimes were done by other criminals and pinned on Richard for a lot of reasons.

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      10. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I think it was just all bad luck. If he hadn’t left the dental records card. Then maybe they would’ve never identified him. But Richard would’ve probably said that it was fate.

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  3. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Concerning the pentagramm , is it right that a pentagramm had been found at a crime scene before the police – stop incident ? And if it had been painted by him as the one who commited the crime WHY should he be so stupid and draw a pentagram on his car ?? That would have been a stupid thing to do from Richard .

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yeah, the Bell and Lang murder was two weeks earlier. It would have, he’d totally be giving himself away!

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      1. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes . So its more logical that he did not know about the pentagram at the crime scene because it was not him who did that , thats why he simple draw it on the car , he was nt aware of anything bad could happen to him ! It was a childish act !?

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  4. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    So they had him on their Radar now !

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    1. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      The pentagram drawing made alarm bells go off in Carrillo’s head even though LA probably had thousands of Satanists. They were probably desperate for a suspect to fit their elusive Satanic serial killer. Richard was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Honestly, the whole incident sounds rather comical. He gets pulled over in a stolen car and before he makes a run for it he draws a pentagram on the car. Maybe I haven’t full grasped how mentally ill Richard was. But it sounds like something from a cartoon or something.

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      1. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        It does! The whole of Richard’s time there is a comedy farce! Poor guy! 😭😂

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      2. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        Yes..He seemed to be in trouble no matter where , no matter how. Probably nervous and stressed a lot , due to his unhealthy Lifestyle.Also possibly He smoke some Marihuana or other stuff , and when stopped by the police just draw the pentagram on his car without much thinking..as a sort of Signature so to speak and as a revenge for the police . But when he had been present at Bell / Lang it would have been a very silly thing to paint that pentagram on the car.

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  5. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I was reading document 14 where they briefly mentioned his erratic postarrest behavior. Some of his supposed behaviors were rather extreme in my opinion. Specifically, where they say that he drew Satanic symbols with his own blood on the cell floor and showed graphic photos to a deputy. But at the end the Petition states that this behavior was not immediately reported by the deputies to their superiors. Why do you guys think this is?

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    1. csmutny06cae8b36d Avatar
      csmutny06cae8b36d

      Because either they weren’t doing their jobs correctly, or it may be more bullshit, IMO.

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        There seems to be a significant pattern of negligence in this case. Given their eagerness to find anything that would portray him as a monster, I would have expected them to report the incidents immediately and go straight to the press. Instead, they kept it quiet for a while, which makes me question the credibility of their account or whether these events even happened. It all feels exaggerated.

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      2. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        everything about those cops are BS! How people believe them I will never understand.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        It’s because only their narratives and perspectives have been shown for essentially forty years. Those who disagreed and were dissenting voices have been silenced or suppressed. I can’t blame the general public much because they have have only heard one side of the story. The media was complicit in spreading falsehoods about both the case and Richard, only in recent years have people started opening their eyes. None of the people that have worked on this case or were involved will ever try to be truthful. It will damage their reputation,standing,and future prospects. The more I read about serial killer cases particularly in the US. The more I realized how everything was sensationalized and dramatized to serve the purposes of law enforcement, politicians, the media, ect. The victims are rarely ever acknowledged or mentioned. I have never seen a country so obsessed with murders and rapists. It’s sick!

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes that’s very true the public have been feed lies but still it doesn’t give them the right to harass or bully us say your thought but appropriately and respectfully and kindly. The more I learn myself about serial killer cases the more I see more Richard as just a really troubled guy needing help etc… not as a rapist and killer! All those characteristics should have been shown at a very early age like other killers have example dahlmer he since a very young age like cutting dead animals collecting them etc… and look at where that brought him! Richard liked true crime etc…, but that doesn’t mean he’s a killer, I love true crime I’m very interested in these cases I watch it in my sleep but that doesn’t mean I’m a killer! He wasn’t a true santanist in my opinion he just as interested in that but doesn’t mean he’s a part of it even tho he said he was but his thought were so disorganized etc…. So he’d be saying lots of crazy stuff that doesn’t make sense. They found the easy target and that was their goal as tho it was planned. They can kill me idc I’m always forever gonna care for Richard and have love for him as a human being and defend him he deserved that! I’m sick and tired of the lies and done being bullied and harassed idk if you guys would like to see the comment that I just few days ago received from a hater but it was so mean! Justice for Richard and justice for the victims and justice for Richard’s family.

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  6. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I’m still getting harassed and bullied omg

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  7. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    also I’m very curious what you guys found on your holiday!

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      We have a couple of things to share with you. We will update the blog when we get back.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Yes of course! I’m super excited to see what you have to share!!! You guys are seriously the best! Also with the hurricane happening in Florida Ik you guys aren’t there but hope you all are ok since you in the USA!

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      2. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        We were in Los Angeles, so don’t worry. We’ve moved on to Las Vegas now.
        We’re going to do a couple of posts to tell you what we dug up.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Glad to hear hear that you’re all good!
        Enjoy your time!
        Couple of post?! Oh damn you guys must have found a lot more hey?! I’m guessing a part 2 book?! 🤩🤣

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Ha ha! No, not another book but definitely a few interesting things we found in the archives, and yes, we held those court papers in our hands.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha! Were allowed to make a copy of those papers or allowed to take pictures of them? Idk how they work aha

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        ~ Jay ~

        Some we copied and others we took pics of. They wouldn’t copy some stuff, and they also removed files we weren’t allowed to see for confidentiality reasons.
        We’ll update as soon as we can.

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      7. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        At least you Have some papers sweet! Awesome work as always! And yes ofc! Can’t wait to see the new post! Enjoy Las Vegas!

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  8. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    Just like Vivi said can someone just freaking sit them down?!

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  9. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    new blog content soon!! OMG can’t wait! I love love love your works all 3 of you I can’t wait to see what new stuff you found yay!

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  10. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Is it it true that on the day that Richard was captured law enforcement was given a message to kill him because they did want him alive, and that the the mob that attacked him basically “saved” him?

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      Yeah they sent out their special force!

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        They probably wanted him dead because it would’ve been easier to cement the narrative of him being the NS. A dead man can’t defend himself.

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  11. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    wait what?! They wanted him dead?! Wtf ok I did so not hear about this I’m actually speechless this is so wrong this guy suffered literally all his life ommg poor Richard. Also sorry for being so emotional I’m very emotional women 🫣

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    1. Vivi Avatar
      Vivi

      Like what were they going to do shoot him and make it look like a “accident”?

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Knowing them yes they would have, and not only would they make it seem like an accident but they’d have made up more stories as to why they had to killed him like oh he grabbed a kid and a women and threatened to hurt them BOOM! Wtf kind of sick world r we living in this is not ok at all! My heart is really breaking for Richard.

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      2. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Sometimes I try to think of what other options he had, instead of resorting to being a burglar. Associating with shady people and burglarizing homes is what led him to be entangled in this mess in my opinion. So, if he had other legal and safe ways of sustaining himself, his name may have ever even been known to us. But then I remember that he barely passed school and had dozens of head injuries, debilitating mental illnesses, no real marketable skills, no work ethic, a drug addiction, and no connections or support. He was dealt a horrible hand by life and worsened it with his personal choices as well. It’s no wonder that he turned to crime. His story breaks my heart as even to this day people are still bashing him and profiting off of him. It must’ve felt awful to be used and then thrown away.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        I was thinking the exact same thing why did he involve himself with these people why didn’t he just stay to himself and away from them but then again like you I thought of all the things that he just couldn’t do it. It hurts alot that people bash I agree and then they compare their life or other peoples life to Richard’s it’s like ummm ok ya no stop right there enough is enough!

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      4. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        I think they might have had orders to kill him on sight!

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      5. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        What the actual fuck? Like in front of civilians?

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      6. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        The citizens probably would have cheered it!

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      7. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        True, it was like a witch hunt for him. It reminds me of someone being burned at the stake or being executed via the guillotine and people would cheer and laugh as if it was a comedy show. Society hasn’t changed at all I guess.

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      8. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Do you know where in the Writ they talk about this?

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      9. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        It isn’t there but was on Netflix

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      10. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Probably missed it seeing as I slept through most of the “documentary” lol.

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      11. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Unsurprising! It’s full of filler scenes… btw we will have new blog content soon!

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  12. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I read a comment recently of someone saying that Lucy Letby should’ve killed Richard off. For context, Letby was a British nurse who was convicted of murdering at least 7 babies and attempting to murder several others while working in the neonatal unit at a hospital. I felt sick to my stomach after reading that as they were saying he should’ve been murdered as a baby. I am usually not one to engage with these types of comments or pay them mind, but I felt so angry. Eventually, I was able to calm myself down and understand that there is no point in engaging with people who have no empathy, humanity, or tact. People like those don’t have the balls to state their opinions in person they need the safety of a screen. 

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    1. VenningB Avatar
      VenningB

      There are big questions over her trials too but I haven’t gone down that rabbit hole yet.

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    2. Isabella 99 Avatar
      Isabella 99

      Yes I know how you must have felt after readiing this stupid comment ! They are so disgusting sometimes. 2 days ago there was a new You Tube edit wich basicly was a S&M Sex Edit…! Richard was badly abused as the ” Master ” who instructed some girls to sit on his lap ! ! In a hard voice he said SIT SIT SIT ! Underlined with aggressive Phonk Music….I was really shocked first and then I got reall angry.. mad actually . .I was in underground train and tried to write but it was to busy in the underground. But when i was out there I wrote a comment ….I hour later I was even more angry and I showed this up at You Tube . I just didnt give a damn .Hope YouTube banned this tasteless awful ,insulting SEX EDIT on Richards Costs !! LOL…I d like to have my own channel just to show these idiots wheres the last train to Clarkesville is.

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  13. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I have a question…. So how come on few documents of Richard’s are released and few victims drawing descriptions but the rest is just hidden in plain sight. Why only release few rather all what are they truly hiding within those hidden papers?!

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    sarah1997

    “Ok you eat a cookie and cry because richard dont love you too and why do you love him special is that your bf or some we are not brain washed or loss vision your the one loss vision and judge him by his looks and we dont love a serial killer anyways that was not your member or someone. I dont judge a book by its cover i always read it. I love the inside not the out side like you. And he dont know you and he needs to be alone do you know hes mentality.” This is what some told me on youtube few days ago of an old comment i said months ago

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    1. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
      ~ Jay ~

      It doesn’t make much sense. 😬😏

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Right?! That’s what my niece said too! I seriously can’t understand these people the amount of hate and harassment they are getting. Like if you don’t want to see anything related to Richard fair by then stop clicking on his page why you clicking on his page for what list to bully us? 😆

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        ~ Jay ~

        They just can’t help themselves.

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      3. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        lol they ain’t worth it but sometimes I just love fighting back with them! The cookie part I was the one that said eat a cookie and cry in the corner I was trying to say to the haters to stop bullying Richard supporters and people whom are just trying to spread love and truth for him but like you said some just can’t help themselves haha their comments are actually funny to read cuz they act like they did they research 😂

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Nope.. they researched via Netflix and YouTube.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Haha exactly and Gil and Carlo too their “hero’s” 😆

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      6. Isabella 99 Avatar
        Isabella 99

        There must be a way to get You Tube to act more strict when it comes to the Marketing of the Person Richard Ramirez . He is not to be used as a SEX SYMBOL as the Man is dead and there s no reason to go on using him for sexualized edits and other Problematc contains ! What could be done about that ? ? Me CONTACTING YOU TUBE ?.

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  15. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Sorry actually he is missused as a SEX OBJECT not as a SEX SYMBOL .

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    1. sarah1997 Avatar
      sarah1997

      sadly no matter what we do or try to do nothing will change YouTube or anything else.

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    sarah1997

    I just don’t understand why these things aren’t stopped and allowed dealt with. The amount of bullying I read it’s so sad. It angers me that all they say is groupie this fan girl this like don’t they have any better arguments?! Hidden documents but for other cases they aren’t hidden wtf!! Why are they hiding so much on Richard?! I understand people hate seeing court documents but still it’s better than being lied to for 40 years. I really hope you guys can go on a podcast and set the record straight for people I just hate what happened to Richard and id hate if this happens again to anyone else.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes . ..At least this tasteless SM edit is gone , they ve banned it I think. But now there s one by Lucy Lou or so. Its an edit about Richards Biografie , spoken by an AI voice as if Richards voice . This one is also beyond me….I doubt something like that is really allowed ? He admits having done things he did nt do at all in this ! Naive viewers surely believe this is true.

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      sarah1997

      it’s really stupid and quit ridiculous I almost believed the AI myself when I heard it cuz it truly sounded like him.

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  18. YesIAmEvil Avatar
    YesIAmEvil

    Sarah and Vivi talked about the question which other options Richard might have had instead of turning towards crime and hanging out with shady people etc. Unfortunately I can’t reply on those comments directly, that’s why I try to do it here: There is one thing Richard said in his interview with Phillip Carlo (the audio tapes) , that I find very interesting. I have never heard someone saying it this way before and I have always thought that “is he created” only in the sense of “created by his environment”, but Richard said : “Is there such thing as a bad seed when a baby is born? Is he already a serial killer, already made, or is he created by his own deeds and feelings throughout his life and his environment?” So, I think that in theory Richard of course would have had other options instead of becoming a burglar etc. But in reality, there was no other way, because from his point of view he couldn’t see another way, that also seemed “reachable” or “walkable” to him. And maybe it started with many little “deeds” or decisions, which in themselves were not very bad yet, but all together somehow carved the path downwards. For example: Richard got bullied at school, so he wanted to learn to defend himself. That’s why he got interested in martial arts etc. No problem yet and very understandable. But then there was this cousin, who maybe could teach him about fighting etc, but with that knowledge came also cousin Mike’s weird sexual preferences. Same with his siblings, with them came drugs into his life. Of course he could have decided not to try them, but he took that little decision and did try them. At this point he probably couldn’t imagine in which trouble this decision would put him. He couldn’t imagine that it would lead into a heavy addiction. That’s how I understand his “created by his own deeds and feelings”. You take a little decision but can’t imagine the long term consequences and side effects in combination with other decisions and circumstances. Buying gasoline for your car is fine. Buying matches to lit a candle is fine too. But if you put the gas and the matches together in the wrong way: boom!

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      Vivi

      You articulated this so well! I completely agree that he made impulsive decisions without considering the long-term consequences. However, something I’ve always admired about him is his effort to take responsibility for his actions as much as possible. It would have been easy for him to blame others or his environment for what he went through, but from what I’ve seen, he mostly tried to be accountable. His circumstances and surroundings definitely influenced him, but he still had a choice in how he navigated his life within those challenges.

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        YesIAmEvil

        Yes, I don’t understand either why some people said that he didn’t want to take responsibility for himself and his actions. He often said that he himself was responsible for his decisions.

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      sarah1997

      ahhhh ya that makes sense for sure! Thnx for explaining it well! Ya his upbringing pretty much shaped his life in my opinion, idk if it was possible for him to escape those people (solano) and just keep to himself, why did his brothers teach him all these awful things, Richard clearly wanted help especially with that counseling thing but sadly his family couldn’t keep up with it. It’s so sad that Richard’s life had to be like this. Poor guy. I’m getting sick and tired of people always comparing his life with theirs or someone else’s, I had the same like as Richard and I didn’t turn into a killer. Or they know of someone in the same situation as Richard and they didn’t turn into a killer! Ummm plz stop right there. I can’t understand these people. It’s like they want Richard to be this monster killer this psycho. And I. My opinion and eyes Richard wasn’t at all a monster killer and especially not a psycho at all, he was not well at all and was a troubled man needed help and guidance which no one at all gave him and with his state of mind how you think he’s gonna do? Obviously not well at all. It just breaks my heart that Richard had to live the life that he did from birth-death it’s not fair or right at all.

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  19. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    I know that from many of my comments, it might seem like I’m constantly pointing the finger at others and trying to whitewash Richard’s actions. But that’s not my intent. I do believe that many people around him played a role in his downfall, whether intentionally or not. I’m not necessarily trying to assign blame, but I think it’s important for them to take accountability and recognize that their actions and decisions did have an impact on Richard. Now that he’s gone, nothing can be corrected, but a bit of honesty would go a long way—especially since there are so many falsehoods surrounding both the case and Richard himself.

    I’ve seen people who grew up in circumstances similar to Richard’s—facing abuse, poverty, mental illness, and substance abuse—but through their own strength and determination, they managed to find light at the end of the tunnel. Despite suffering greatly as children, they used their freedom as adults to create better, more stable lives for themselves. That said, it’s much easier said than done. It’s a constant uphill battle to overcome those issues and try to lead a relatively healthy life. It requires an incredible amount of physical, emotional, and mental resilience to face those struggles.

    I believe Richard was strong and resilient in his own way, but I think he felt he had dug himself into a hole too deep to climb out of. His lack of self-confidence and negative self-perception seemed to drive him toward drugs and crime as a way to cope rather than confront his issues. I think his view of his situation and circumstances made him feel hopeless, leading him to spiral further out of control. These are just my thoughts, but based on the way he described himself in his letters and the psychiatric evaluations done on him, I believe he saw himself as less than others. This low self-worth likely played a big role in his destructive decisions, as he didn’t see much value in his own life.

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      YesIAmEvil

      I don’t agree regarding the self-worth and I don’t think that he saw himself as less than others. I think he saw himself as different from others and as not working or functioning in their system. But not less than “them”!

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        Vivi

        I see what you mean, and that’s an interesting perspective! Just out of curiosity, why do you think he viewed himself as different than others?

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        YesIAmEvil

        You don’t understand me, you are not expecting to.

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        Oops that was too early, I wanted to quote more of his court speech: You don’t understand me. You are not expected to. You are not capable of it. I am beyond your experience. I am beyond good and evil. ” Doesn’t that say that he sees himself as different? Or did you mean what exactly makes him different from others? In that case: I think he took a look behind the curtain, similar to Truman in the movie The Truman show.

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    Vivi

    This is a bit off-topic, but I’ve been looking deeper into the Menendez brothers’ case, and I’ve lost whatever faith I had left in the American justice system. I have no doubt they murdered their parents, but after hearing more testimony from the case, I truly believe their lives were in danger. The judge severely limited the defense’s witnesses, and most of the parental abuse testimony and evidence was barely allowed in the second trial after the first one ended in a mistrial. The prosecutor argued that the abuse testimony was irrelevant to the murders, but it absolutely is when the abuse came from the parents. Don’t get me wrong—I believe they should have been punished for the murders, but I don’t think they deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison. I haven’t looked into the legal system in every state, but California’s justice system seems like a joke. It’s like a web, where if you get caught in it, it’s damn near impossible to get out.

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      omg I’m so glad you brought this up I’ve been meaning to talk about the MENENDEZ brothers case. And I totally agree with you about everything you said about them! They did kill their parents that for sure and no doubt about it and ofc they have to spend time in prison for that action and I agree with that but 35 years especially in their case I think is enough. I’m one short clip Erik’s lawyer yelled at the judge for calling Erik gay when he wasn’t. Their mothers sister and the cousins even believes thems and have witnessed few awful things I believe and ya I believe them too after learning more about the case. The documentary’s about them are also a few lies and a joke once again like Richard’s, this has to stop. I truly believe in Richard’s complete innocence like I said before like Doreen. I wish there was a way for Richard to get out of his situation but Ik that’s easier said than done and with his situation i completely understand as to why he couldn’t. And with the MENENDEZ brothers I think they could have easily just left the house and ran away but they couldn’t thinking they will get found and caught by them. What happened to the brothers ofc was awful and sad and somebody should have put their parents away, but the people that knew couldn’t do anything about it cuz they well idk probably couldn’t understand or something. They were half Cuban so that made me think soemthing else as well

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , I think that it must have been really hard for Richard to deal with all those Impressions surrounding him.. Imagining myself beeing in such extremely difficult and depressing situation I probably would have simple run away from home ..? Well , not too sure about this either , but I would have had trouble with a father like Julian ! I wouldnt accept beeing beaten or my siblings beeing beaten …So I might have tried to find a solution for me to leave this household. But this I only could have done because I was nt very tempted smoking pot as Richard did. .In my eyes smoking so much Marihuana at such a young age did much damage to Richard . Some other drugs he might have tried…Decision making is made complicated when you see reality through Mariuhana eyes….and psychic pain is dimmen down . Richards coping strategies with problems were not as its best , as he suffered from seizures also at that pot smoking Episodes…In my opinion Richard was just not at all able to change anything for his future life only by himself ! That simple Was too much for him ..As , in my eyes he had a attachment disorder also with his mother , who unfortunately was not able to be of any help for him , not only because of beeing absent , due to working , but also because her poor school education and cause Richard was quite a bright and modern young boy who demanded much more than she could give or offer him. It s tragic that at his school there hasnt been a Person, teacher or the like who noticed the potential that Richard had , the Charisma he had , or the problems he had . It was just lack of luck I often think. As I know much more now about Richard than 1 year ago when I stumbled into his life per coincidence , I think that he had his own opinion about life and he had learned whats right and wrong.. He had made some good thinking about social problems and society in general , he had said that he wants to rather live as a Mountain Man..etc ( TYC ) ..And he had experienced that all this hard work of his parents had brought them actually nowhere….I guess he was fedt up with all that ..and Richard had developed into a young man which could not be trivialised as easy as other boys , who are average ..Haircut one hundred , he was not !

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      I’m glad you brought up the topic of hard work and the role of parents in shaping their children’s work ethic. I also believe that Richard’s parents’ financial struggles and grueling work lives had a significant impact on his outlook toward traditional jobs. It’s understandable why Richard might have been reluctant to pursue a “real job,” especially when he witnessed his parents working tirelessly in labor-intensive roles that likely took a toll on their health but offered little reward in return. It must have been discouraging to see them trapped in what seemed like a hamster wheel, working endlessly yet never making real progress or improving their situation. They were running in place, with no real movement or advancement in life to show for their efforts.

      I do recognize that there was probably an element of laziness on Richard’s part, which was exacerbated by his mental health struggles and drug addiction. However, it’s hard to ignore the effect of seeing his parents work so hard just to survive, which likely turned him off from joining the workforce. It’s possible that, from his perspective, risking his life by burglarizing homes seemed more appealing than being stuck in the same unfulfilling cycle his parents endured. In his mind, the quicker, albeit riskier, path to money might have felt like the only escape from the dead-end grind he grew up witnessing.

      While the logic may seem backward, I can understand why Richard would lean toward seeking easier, though illegal, means of making money rather than following in his parents’ footsteps with a traditional 9-to-5. Their endless struggle to get ahead probably made him question the value of hard work altogether, leading him to choose a path that, to him, offered more immediate results, even if it was far more dangerous.

      Additionally, I believe Richard lacked both ambition and drive. A person can be naturally intelligent and talented, but without any passion or purpose, that potential has nowhere to go. In Richard’s case, this seemed to stem largely from a lack of self-confidence. He may have felt that he had nothing to offer the world, which left him with no motivation or “spark” to pursue anything meaningful. His family dynamics likely played a significant role in this as well, with a lack of encouragement—or possibly even an abundance of discouragement—leaving him feeling unmotivated.

      Unlike pursuing a career or working toward a goal, burglary didn’t require ambition or long-term drive. It likely felt more like a survival mechanism—an immediate way to meet basic needs rather than an expression of purpose or passion. This might explain why he chose a path of criminal activity instead of joining the workforce or pursuing a more traditional route in life.

      It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly why Richard didn’t embrace a more conventional lifestyle, but from the Texas Youth Commission (TYC) evaluations, I can tell that there was a spark in him—a potential that wasn’t fully nurtured. This is precisely what youth rehabilitation systems should be focused on: fostering passion and drive in children and providing them with the tools and resources they need to pursue something meaningful. When that spark is identified, it’s critical to cultivate it and help a young person channel their energy into something positive.

      Of course, the child has to be willing to put in the effort, but strong adult guidance and support are essential, especially for children from impoverished backgrounds where their parents may not be able—or willing—to offer the necessary support and resources. It’s like trying to grow a plant: without water and good soil, it can’t thrive. I know it might seem like I’m shifting some of the blame, but I do hold the system and those responsible for Richard’s rehabilitation accountable for not doing enough to nurture his potential.

      If Richard had been given the opportunity to discover something he was passionate about—something worth working hard for—I believe he could have taken a much better path in life. He might have found a sense of purpose and meaning that could have filled the void he felt, giving him something to hold onto beyond the “meaningless existence” he seemed to be living.

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        sarah1997

        it’s super sad and angers me why no one like you said nurtured Richard. He truly did have potential but again like you said the lack of motivation and what he saw his parents go through working with barely anything for possibly scared him and ofc chose the easy route. Without the right support guidance etc…. How can you really be motivated. It’s easier said than done and with his family dynamics I don’t blame Richard at all I do wish there was a way to get him out of that life style and allow him to get a second chance properly but again easier said than done. Peoples comments about him makes me sick bashing at him etc… and so many comments about him saying he could have been a model! Omg stop! This isn’t about modeling! Not every handsome or good looking people want that! Even tho Richard was very handsome good looking guy that doesn’t mean he should be a model especially if that’s not what he wanted. I read in one letter to a pen pal that Richard said if he studied at university he would have studied architecture his passion was drawing! All he needed was support, love, guidance and so much more!

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      Vivi

      When it comes to Richard’s attachment to his mother, do you think it could be classified as insecure, secure, or disorganized? From what I’ve gathered, it seems like he was closer to his mother than his father, which makes sense for various reasons. However, despite this, they didn’t appear to have a particularly strong or deeply connected relationship. This distance may have been a result of her constantly working and being out of the house, which would have limited the time they spent together. I feel that Rosa was kind of a surrogate mother to him. He seemed to trust and rely on her more.

      While it’s true that the attachment style children form with their caregivers isn’t always a reliable predictor of how their future interpersonal relationships will play out, it’s hard to ignore the fact that Richard didn’t seem to foster close connections with many people later in life—especially after moving to Los Angeles and San Francisco. Outside of his core group of friends from El Paso, it appears he didn’t make much effort to build or maintain meaningful relationships with others.

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    Vivi

    This is probably a stupid question. Do you guys think there might have been more to Richard’s decision to refuse his family’s testimony and involvement than just wanting to protect them? On the surface, it seemed like he was shielding them from further public exposure, but when you consider what happened later with Carlo’s book, it raises some questions. The book not only put his family under the spotlight but also exposed many hidden aspects of their lives, some of which were quite damaging. While it’s likely that certain details were exaggerated or edited to fit a narrative, it still feels contradictory. If Richard was truly only trying to protect them, why allow such a revealing account to be published?

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , Richard thought about possibly selling his life story in the future , and therefore he was extremely cautious of giving away anything about his family background. And , after the bad experience with Carlo he seemed so worried about his biographie and all this that he even became sort of paranoid . He met Carlo in 1993 , and we all know the outcome of this ” project ” ! In his psych reports I ve read about this almost paranoid fear of his , of spoiling his chances to make money by letting his family beeing questioned or interviewed. The Carlo book remains an enigma to me. Carlo went to El Paso and did his own research ..and he wrote a lot about the family already , did nt he…?! So..there was more to it than beeing protective to his family .

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      Vivi

      I previously thought that it was also because he wanted to control the narrative surrounding him. But it doesn’t make sense to me why he would do it at the risk of bringing possible harm to his family. When he went to such great lengths to prevent them from testifying at the LA trial or saying anything to his lawyers. It was clearly stated in the psych reports that he was constantly trying to control communication between his lawyers and his relatives and friends. Perhaps, at that point his mental health had declined so much to the point that he didn’t even think of “protecting” his family rather trying to support them in whatever ways he could behind bars as he felt his fate was already sealed. Sometimes I wish Carlo’s book was never written, but it does have some decent insights into the trial. The testimony from the family could’ve been useful to his trial as mitigation evidence, if the Hernandezes were competent.

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    Isabella 99

    Concerning attachment disorder , I think this is hard to know which style of attachment he developed . I think he was left alone a lot and also his mother might have ” spoiled ” him a lot . Maybe she was nt strict enough also . When he threw a stone at a schoolbus or trough a window she just shrugged . But I imagine also that it was immensly difficult to be consequent and strict with Richard . Especially when he reached Puberty. I think he should have gone to special school of education and emotion . Maybe his mother was too unreliable for him ? For sure Richard seems also parentificated as he worries about his parents a lot .He sensed the depressions his parents had and felt responsible for that. For sure he was deeply confused when his father hit himself , as Richard felt helpless with a father who was so helpless and ” crazy “. For sure Richard grew up with a completely distorted Image of the world . For him it was not a big deal to steal from other people ..He became used to that ..it became normal . In addition Richard did not develop tolerance of frustration etc. , nor did he develop coping strategies .

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    Isabella 99

    Insecure attachment I would say . Maybe he was deeply dissapointed and frightened as a small child . His father was unpredictsble for Richard .

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      Vivi

      It must’ve been terrifying for a young child to live in a house full of so much hostility and unpredictability. It’s not surprising that all the children tried to “escape” as soon as they came of age. I understand that it must’ve been incredibly difficult to manage household expenses, a physically laborious job, and five rowdy children who seemed to get into trouble every week. But child abuse is never the way! The children either grow up to be violent and aggressive or they may become withdrawn and isolated. There are people who fall in the middle, where the effects are not visible outwardly, but they may suffer from a lot of mental and emotional issues which may impair other parts of their life. The grip of violence only lasts so long. It’s far better and sustainable for a parent to establish a relationship of respect between themselves and their children. That being said the parent should have some form of “authority” to discipline the child in non-abusive and non-violent ways so that they learn what is expected of them and how to operate and be successful in this world.

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  26. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    But actually this are only speculations , assumptions and Interpretations .

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      Vivi

      Yes all we can do is questions and speculate. I try not to dig too deep in to his personal life. But I find him to be fascinating as a person. But sometimes I have to step back and stop looking at thing objectively and realize that they are real people or existed or still exist and not overstep boundaries for the sake of my curiosity.

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        Isabella 99

        Yes I agree ! And I find him also very fascinating as a person. Otherwise I d have stopped doing research about his case and his life . I first saw the edits of his capture when he was in the back of the police car. Those pictures kept going round in circles in my head…It was such an eerie atmosphare with those helicopters. I also watched the Watkiss Interview a lot and I noticed the big difference in his looks in comparison with that newer stuff from israelien TV. He looked so much younger and healthier in the Watkiss Interview allthough it was only two years difference. When I think about his conduct disorder as a Teenager I also think about his love for music and him listening to AC / DC and Billy Idol . And then Zach Villa s Interpretation of Richards alleged actions come to my mind. ..And I m a little annoyed why Zach Villa smoke cigaretts allthough Richard didnt smoke cigaretts . So there s a lot going on to be upset about .LOL

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        Vivi

        When I watched the Maxxine movie and saw the footage of Richard being arrested, I swear I felt my heart break. Seeing the clips on YouTube, with his head wrapped in bandages and blood dripping down the back of his neck from the head wound, made me feel sick. He looked terrified, disoriented, and completely lost. And then there were the reporters, swarming around the police car like vultures, desperate to get footage and photos of him as if he were some zoo animal on display. It was dehumanizing. His pain, along with the pain of the victims, was reduced to mere entertainment for these people. It infuriates me beyond words. To them, these horrific events are just more content to exploit.
        I’m not trying to criticize Zach Villa, as he’s not responsible for the writing, but it’s obvious that all they did was sexualize Richard and cater to the hybristophiles. They’ve done it before with the Bundy films and the Dahmer Netflix series, and it’s just so messed up! Turning tragedy and suffering into a spectacle not only disrespects everyone involved but also distorts the reality of these crimes for the sake of sensationalism

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        VenningB

        I felt the same watching Maxxxine. Because it was all so much worse than people know. Things aren’t solved. And he died never knowing it would one day begin to be exposed.

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        Vivi

        It was obvious that the media was complicit in all of this when they started making that stupid Manhunt movie before the verdict of the trial was even reached.

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        They had it scripted even before they had chosen the jury. Can you believe it?

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    Isabella 99

    And ..I dont watch the newer released israelien parts of the Interview very often because it makes me feel bad ..even nervous . It makes me sad . Its really strange somehow that Richard still effects soo many people .

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      VenningB

      He does! This week, I had a conversation with a man who said nobody cares about this subject. He didn’t mean it in a nasty way, he meant that it’s old news and it’s all in the past and Americans have long moved onto the subsequent big things, of which there are many. But we disagreed. Many people all over the world become interested in Richard’s case and he affects them. Documentaries are still being made. Questions over the case only started in the last few years, let’s say five, since people began to discover the appeal documents. I think it’s still important to shine a light on what happened to him, and how there are unsolved murders.

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        sarah1997

        exactly how can we just ignore the things that happened?! Yes it happened a long bout whatever Richard and the case are the important ones not how long ago it happened. Crime podcasts, short horror tv shows, movies documentary’s are all bringing up till this day and continuing to lie about Richard so yes it has to be talked about cuz shit like this happens if we do nothing about and more people in Richard’s situation will get hurt! Justice for Richard!

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        I am sorry this is happening to you, but honestly, it will always be that way. YouTube is rarely the place to have intelligent conversations on any subject, especially this one.

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        sarah1997

        It’s seriously annoying, that’s people have to go through this stating their opinion and beliefs then get attacked sometimes it’s so hard to ignore these guys.

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        I am not from the US and have noticed many others interested in Richards life are from abroad too, especially Europe. Maybe there’s too many news, too many events, frankly too many serial killers and other high profile cases in the US that Richards story just gets buried under the rest of them over there. I don’t blame people for not knowing or not caring to look into his case. I only stumbled on it by accident and curiosity. It’s curiosity that leads one sometimes to the most interesting places. At least it keeps my mind occupied and gives a sense of meaning, learning new new subject matters and likeminded people.

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        We’ve noticed that, too, and as you know, Venning and I aren’t from the US, although Kaycee is. I am old enough to remember his arrest, but beyond that (and the verdict) it got little attention here, beyond some copied articles from the LA Times that were on our tabloids front pages for a few weeks in 85.

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    sarah1997

    the American horror story was down right awful and hated it so much they played Richard dirty and omg those sex scenes wtf was that?! Yes I agree with you too vivi seeing Richard with those band aids around his head then that drop of blood it scared me or Broke my heart, i literally went to tears right away im sorry if im getting emotional guys that’s just me

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    I am really enjoying the book! You guys did an AMAZING job! Thank you for all your research and hard work!

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      Thank you, so glad you’re enjoying it.

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      Thank you! I’m glad you’re enjoying it!

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , the footage of his capture was extremely hard to watch ..I did nt expect that , and I had never heard of Richard Ramirez before …and then I slowly noticed that he was supposed to be a serial Killer..And I thought WHAT ? And then I googled his name…And then I saw all those TV stuff and edits and clips …and then I saw those Groupie edits . Those fan edits ..And then again I thought WHAT ?? I went to see Maxine also but I didnt manage to see it til the capture scenes because I left the Cinema before ,due to some bad behaving , loud people . American Horror Story..is the German tourist scene fiction ? I think so…By the way , Zach Villa has no resemblance with Richard ….

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      it’s crazy how they only did this to Richard.

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      Yeah, the German tourist scene is entirely fictional. It’s crazy that they used him as a ‘character’ in AHS, in fact they used him TWICE. Once in Hotel and then as a main character in 1984. Nuts.

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        sarah1997

        it’s seriously sicken they did that they really are taking advantage of Richard. Even after his death he can’t rest in peace wtf. And that make out scene in AHS made me sick. It showed him as this obsessed sex and Satan lover agin wtf!!! How are people ok with all this?! Poor Richard! This is wrong so wrong.

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        You know, lots of groupies and hybristos first learned of him through AHS 1984, that’s where their obsession started. The fictional version of him made him into a fantasy.

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        sarah1997

        Jeez. Like he was a human being not some sex toy! Or someone you can fictionalize to your needs! I’ve seen so many messed up edits of Richard on Pinterest and it’s just wow I’m speechless and not in a good way.

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    Isabella 99

    Yes ..awful all this. I really had to learn about this phenomenon about this craze. I understand the connection with American Horror Story , but at first I did nt know this . But when you read those comments ..you see that those fans dont know anything about him . I ll stop reading their comments , at least I try ..

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      It’s an eye opener, that’s for sure.

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    sarah1997

    lots of them don’t care about the facts or the truth they just love his face. He couldn’t help the way he looked!! Jeez I just can’t with those guys lol

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    Isabella 99

    Yes , he was so beautiful ..Amazing .

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    Isabella 99

    I m a bit curious wether there is some news about the reception of this blog and the book ? And the Netflix Nightstalker film was basically the reason why Richard was interesting again ? His case was forgotten before all this ? Must have been really weird for his relatives and Doreen then . I hope there will be many reactions to your book and this blog.

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    Isabella 99

    I m a bit curious about reactions to your book and this blog ..is there any news ?

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      VenningB

      There’s nothing, it’s just ignored! No one shares it anywhere so it doesn’t sell anymore. I’ve tried sharing it on social media but it’s also ignored, even by friends. Depressing really.

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        sarah1997

        wtf no way how?! Even with all those reviews we’ve said and still?! Is there a way we can help?

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        sarah1997

        I’m really sorry this is happening with you guys you guys worked so hard and investigated better than anyone could and you guys are the true detectives, Ik Richard and his family would be happy with this boom and blog! My heart breaks about what you said im sorry and I feel so bad if there’s anything let us know!

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        VenningB

        It’s because social media is all about algorithms and you have to basically spam yourself all over the internet like it’s a full time job to get any success. And I can’t stand it, so I can’t do it. I have Twitter/X accounts but if I post links to the book, it only gets about 5 views… it’s because I don’t ‘work’ to develop a ‘presence’ online. I also have an instagram account, but again, nothing gets seen. I need to use it more, but without engagement, it doesn’t make me want to post.
        I wish the internet was like the old days, before everything had to be about attention and spending money for engagement.

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        sarah1997

        I agree it’s really crazy how things are now! I hate it so much! You 3 have put in so much work and effort and investigations and so much more I’ve never seen anyone work this hard for something like this! You 3 deserve to be noticed and heard! You work is always so inspiring to me and a lot of us I don’t understand why people just don’t want to give you guys a chance it’s not right or fair I feel so sad for you guys I wish there something we can do to help you guys. Instgram like YouTube is another shity place to be. My uncles ex girlfriend does crime podcast with her friend and I had to block her page cuz she had a picture of Richard and I was too Ik where this is heading I ain’t listening to this shit. Why the silence idk I really wish people can just open their eyes.

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    Isabella 99

    Hm . So we must make some more Promotion !

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      sarah1997

      omg we can make an Instagram page and share the account idk haha

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        Richard’s face and using his name in hashtags on Instagram can result in account termination, so you have to be careful.

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        sarah1997

        Omg what’s up with these people? They’re such dictators? Freedom of speech where’s that?! It’s more like freedom of speech if we agree to it! No this isn’t right your guys worked your butts off and this is how you’re treated no!! I won’t accept that at all! I am once again so sorry you guys have to deal with this but dw we are by your side no matter what so hang in there!

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        VenningB

        Yeah I’m sick of the internet: the content control and the opinion police. Where freedom of expression only applies to certain ‘clean’ opinions, where people stalk and abuse for difference of opinion. And how all the fun and account visibility has been zapped away after the billionaire owners realised people were successfully running businesses for free on it! Pay or perform to be seen! Things are harder for self-published authors and independent artists these days…

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      4. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Exactly! This is fair for you guys at all! How else are you gonna get heard? That only fans shit idk if you mean this too but I hate it I hate it so much! The internet are just a bunch of bullies that prey on people like us. I agree with you so you can post it oh wait I don’t agree with you sorry can’t post it I will harasses you! Lol freedom of speech is just so fairytale like now has no meaning at all anymore where eveyone has to control what you post, say, believe, feel your opinion lol I’ve had enough of the internet.

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      VenningB

      If you don’t get banned doing it! I have Facebook pages for my books but I stopped sharing them because only three people ever respond… The same three people… Who I’m close to in real life!

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  37. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    If you post a comment on someone else’s page and they take it down or block you, technically, you’ve still exercised your freedom of speech. You’re allowed to express your views, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be any “consequences.” My issue is that I’ve seen several social media pages that try to discuss Richard’s case, and other cases, in a more thoughtful and intelligent way—actually delving into the details rather than simply repeating the same information—get banned. These pages often avoid using photos of the victims or sensationalizing Richard or his fanbase. Yet, they still get taken down or reported, often without clear explanation as to why their content is considered harmful. Meanwhile, pages that post uncensored crime scene photos or inappropriate images of his groupies remain up for years. There’s a significant bias in this censorship, which only deepens the questions and mystery surrounding the case. If we’re trying to have a respectful, intelligent discussion, I don’t see the need for censorship. Whether or not you agree with certain viewpoints, all opinions about the case should be allowed to exist, as long as they are respectful to the victims. There shouldn’t be “consequences” for speech that seeks to explain the case using legal documents without exploiting the victims.

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      VenningB

      I think the facial recognition software takes out a lot of Ramirez photos, and the photos of the bodies remain because they’re not in the system. The rest, I suspect are mass-reported by “anti TCC” accounts. I remember there were loads on Twitter with a hit list of accounts to take down.
      I’ve seen people post the documents on the shoe forensics on Reddit being removed for glorification of crime! Makes no sense but I guess ‘innocence’ falls under the glorification umbrella now in these forums’ arbitrary rules.
      We had a friend who never posted his face on Instagram, only documents stuff with her own opinions. She was banned. Richard’s niece Rosie also lost her account. That said, she was liking Dahmer posts and had Richard’s name in her username so I guess she was taken for a hybro…which one could argue she behaves like…

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        Vivi

        Do they not see how making movies and shows about him is glorification?! What a bunch of hypocrites!

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      2. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        Richard Ramirez causes selective blindness haha. “Wine and Crime” evenings, films = good. Questioning the case is somehow worship and sexualisation = baaaad.

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        Taking a cameo role in the latest Ramirez film when you were the leading detective = good. Looking at court documents = bad.

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        Vivi

        LMAO that is probably the exact verbalization of their thinking. They all run on half a brain cell collectively! 🤣

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  38. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    it’s crazy they honestly don’t care! If they do it it’s fine but if others mention Richard banned! Wtf is this! And I’m really getting sick of those people harassing.

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    sarah1997

    haha vivi that comment 😂😂

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  40. sarah1997 Avatar
    sarah1997

    I just feel so bad as I told venning. You guys worked so hard so hard on this blog and book and this is how people treat it?! And when you mention Richard you get harassed wtf?! I wish there was a way we can help you guys but plz let us know if there is!

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      It is what it is, Sarah. Remember: Wine and Crime nights = good. Discussing the documents = bad.

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        sarah1997

        Indeed you’re right and sadly I remember. I just want to help you guys so badly I just can’t stand this Ik like you said it is what is is but I just can’t except that especially after how much hard work you guys put in! You 3 will forever be the best detectives! I’m writing a diary just to talk about my day and emotions hair for myself, but I will write your names and the works you’ve done and maybe years to come my descendants will find it and read your book! 🤩🫣

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        That’s a nice idea, thank you!

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        sarah1997

        Ofc! We are all here for you guys and like I said if there’s anything you guys need let us know!

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  41. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I m not really an expert with all this social media accounts etc. But ..there must be a way to promote this book ! When I look at all that crap going on there . So..We ll Rock On !

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  42. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    And this blog ? Are there more people now ?

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      VenningB

      Not really. Because we don’t post as often anymore, search engines drop you from the top, so our views decrease and we don’t get an influx of subscribers. It feels like blog sites and social media punish you for not putting out constant content.

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      1. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        like what do they expect you guys to do?! Post eveyday? Every week? When only limited information is given to you guys about Richard and you already posted all of that and a book?! The internet is so picky

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        Exactly that, we have to constantly post, and we don’t anymore. We always said we’d only post when we had more info to share.

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        sarah1997

        Damnnn, like what more can you guys really do you’ve done so much already and you’ve posted whatever it is you’ve seen about this case the rest we can’t cuz they hiding it! I’m curious as to why free some papers but the rest hidden?!

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        Well, some contain sensitive items (such as the Dayle Okazaki photo, which they forgot to remove) and things like address, etc. Some documents are sealed, and cannot be accessed at all. Even his Habeas Lawyers were unable to gain access to some of those.

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      5. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Ahhhh right right ofc not a good idea to display the victims picture that’s sad, but still other papers deserve to be accepted.

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        We were so sad to see those images, they should have removed them. We did not take photos of them, as we would never show such a thing on here. I will never forget their faces. They were in there as they were the photos that Carrillo and Salerno were handing out to the jury. We saw no other pictures, thank goodness.

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        sarah1997

        Jeeeez that’s so sad 😢, I don’t even want to think about that, also were they even allowed to show the jury those pictures? Isn’t that unfair towards Richard cuz now their heavily influenced by those pictures now?

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        VenningB

        The photo of Yu was definitely one shown to the jury, just by its description.

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      9. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Wow that’s so sad it’s not fair for Richard and the victims, no one seems to be taking this case seriously like they should, they weren’t allowed to show victims pictures I’m in correct? Idk too much about how courts works haha

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        Showing the jury victim’s photographs isn’t necessary, it causes an emotional state, it’s terribly upsetting, and does not help them to consider who murdered them. It has no use but to inflame them against the accused, and that is exactly why they did it.

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      11. sarah1997 Avatar
        sarah1997

        Poor Richard that’s really unfair for him I just want to sit gil now and just yell at him. How is this happening that’s so cruel of them to show that picture and sad, 😢

        I have a older cousin and he’s a police officer and omg his dad my uncle I’m dead serious looks like an exact copy of GIL he was here a few months ago and omg I couldn’t even look at my uncle 🫣 he’s Gil’s twin is scary, even the hair 😵‍💫 but dw I love my uncle 😂

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  43. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    Yes ..those pictures ..! Ive read what judge Tynan had said . He said that the fotos he saw were beyond every human Imagination. And this Mr Gallegos said that the crimes were only to be described as ” mad ” , but the Individual that did this was nt mad. So those pictures ..I thought about that . must have been almost unbearable for everyone. Bad for Richard ..couldnt have been worse ! And those fotos he had in his cell , were this the same fotos ?
    otos

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      VenningB

      People always exaggerate that pictures are beyond human imagination or Richard did unfathomable crimes, but the world used to be much more violent than it is now… we’ve all read about medieval torture methods, battles etc. They’re just being dramatic. He had the Zazzara images too, so I assume they were the same photos. The Bell and Lang photos were pretty bad too.

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    Isabella 99

    PS. I confused the name , it was nt Gallegos I think !?

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  45. N. S. Avatar
    N. S.

    I have actually had the book for a while now, but I’m a slow reader. But I finally finished it recently. I’m sorry to hear that it stopped selling at the moment. But maybe it really is only a temporary setback; after all, it was recently that it came out. And you had mentioned that you were looking for a publisher; are you still looking? Because then that would mean a re-release of it, right?

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      VenningB

      Hopefully it’s temporary. I’m sure if other documentaries come out it will pick up again. Plus we’ve been on holiday this month so haven’t promoted it or kept up with the blog much.
      I still haven’t looked for a real publisher yet because it’s time-consuming and boring and yep, it would mean re-release! The book does have good reviews on Amazon so far, so maybe that will help. I hope you enjoyed reading!

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  46. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    This is purely speculative. But I was watching a documentary recently and found out that the judge who tried Bundy for the Carol DaRonch case was friends with the prosecutor since their days at university. Which screams to me that there might’ve been bias. Was there any such connection between Judge Tynan and Haplin?

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      An interesting question, I only know that in a professional capacity they’d known each other for about twenty years. That’s what prompted Tynan to speak up for Halpin when the defence called him a bigot.

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      1. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        Professional in the sense that Tynan tried several of the cases that Halpin was the prosecutor for or that they were simply work acquittances?

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        I don’t know that, probably both, I imagine. Halpin was the Deputy District Attorney and chief prosecutor, they knew each other well.

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      3. Vivi Avatar
        Vivi

        I bring this up because I believe Judge Tynan showed clear bias against Richard’s defense. The Hernandezes were abysmal clowns who shouldn’t have even been near a courtroom. However, it didn’t seem like Judge Tynan cared whether Richard received a fair trial. The moment that stood out most to me was when he allowed proceedings to continue seamlessly even after a juror was murdered. Many of the jurors speculated that Richard somehow orchestrated it, despite being incarcerated. Under such shocking circumstances, he should have declared a mistrial, as proceeding only deepened existing biases against Richard.

        Additionally, it was glaringly obvious that Richard’s lawyers were not equipped to handle a high-profile serial case with a potential death sentence. Judge Tynan had the authority to remove them and appoint competent counsel but chose not to, even though Richard’s right to an effective defense was at stake. Ignoring Richard’s wishes in this case would have been justified to protect the integrity of his defense and ensure due process.

        There are numerous examples of Tynan’s questionable decisions throughout the trial, which give the impression he was more interested in securing the conviction of a so-called serial killer than in administering justice. It feels as though he was after the personal prestige of convicting Richard, rather than upholding the fairness of the legal system.

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        I agree with every point you’ve made here, and I’ll add the thought that there was only ever going to be one outcome, no matter what, no matter which lawyers were appointed. I don’t think justice (in the true sense of the word) was ever going to be served.

        Both Tynan and Halpin acted in a most unprofessional manner, and Tynan came down on Halpin’s side every time. Over the next few days we will post a some new examples of this, one regarding the Yu case and another about the ballistics reports and the questioning of the firearms officers. These are both snippets we picked up at the Hall of Records a couple of weeks ago. Both of these new findings, although relatively small in the grand scheme of things, but taken as a whole, once again highlight the amount of sketchy behaviour coming from both judge and prosecutor.

        The under qualified defence had no chance of fighting this, due both to their incompetence and also the prosecutorial bias coming from the judge.

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  47. Vivi Avatar
    Vivi

    Do you guys think that somewhere in the archives that you visited, there was at least some of the transcripts or trial footage?

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      VenningB

      I have no idea where that stuff ever went because it wasn’t there. I read somewhere that there are 46k pages of it or something!
      The original police files are still in police archives but aren’t public. I’d love to see more of those.

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        Vivi

        Lol It took me forever to get through the writ. I don’t think my brain would be able to handle all that information. But I really do hope that someday at least half of it will be publically available.

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  48. Jaime1198 Avatar
    Jaime1198

    I’m currently re-reading the Philip Carlo book and the first part of the book seems so fictionalized. He even gave the murder victims actual dialogues. I also came upon a video in which a girl went to Arizona to interview Shelly and Roberto and they both sound pretty delusional. I genuinely believe that Robert isn’t right in the head. I believe that both Shelly and Rosie are lying about Ramirez’s supposed sexual abuse towards them but I believe their motives are different. It’s quite obvious that Shelly doesn’t give a shit about her uncle Richard and only uses his name to make money because she literally said it “isn’t that what we’re all trying to do?. Make money? So don’t judge me for my hustle?” I find it hypocritical that she appeared in a documentary apologizing to his supposed victim but at the same time sells his stuff to make money. On the other hand, I don’t believe Rosie is motivated by money. I believe that what she wants is attention. It’s quite evident that unlike Shelly, she genuinely loved her uncle. She also seems pretty narcissistic by saying that Ramirez murdered Mei Lung because he was no longer molesting her and putting a sticker on her book that says “Best Seller” it’s evident that she also read the Philip Carlo book. I believe she wants to insert herself in her uncle’s story, not sure why but she for some reason seems to have a weird attachment to her uncle and sometimes comes off as a Ramirez groupie herself. Asking groupies what they would like to see in her book is weird behavior for a supposed victim. By the way, what do you guys think of Eva O? and also can I get the documents of his appeals cause I always struggle so much to find them.

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      Vivi

      If you’re referring to Richard’s 2008 Writ of Habeas Corpus, you can find it here, along with the supporting documents. I’ll admit, it can be a bit tricky to navigate at first, but thankfully, Jay, KayCee, and Venning always reference specific document numbers in their posts. That should make it easier for you to locate exactly what you need without too much hassle. Also, this blog is an excellent resource for helping you work through the Writ—it really simplifies the process and provides useful insights along the way.

      https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/hzs23c78/california-central-district-court/richard-ramirez-v-robert-l-ayers/

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        Thanks, Viv, I was going to post to link but didn’t see any comments until lunchtime today.
        Jaime, when you use the writ, the main body of the petition is held in document 14, and many things are not in order, and are also split up into other documents. We used to go into a blind panic trying to remember where we had seen the information we needed.
        Vivi is right, we do cite the document numbers when we write, so you may find that useful as you go through it.

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        ~ Jay ~

        Hi, I answered that somewhere after Vivi, but in case you don’t see it:
        Document 14 is the main body of the petition. Everything else contains all the 100s of supporting documents and you’ll need them, as you go through it all.
        We’ve quoted the doc numbers in our articles, if that helps at all.
        Documents in the 7s and 20s hold a lot of info, but, there are other important ones all jumbled up. We nearly missed the very important affidavit because of where they’d put it (3, I think) and it contained the original ballistics info.
        If you need a hand with locating things, ask us, and we’ll try and help.

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      Vivi

      I completely agree with you about Carlo’s book. The inconsistencies in the Netflix series, combined with how laughably fictionalized his book was, were honestly the main reasons I became so invested in Richard’s case. It was frustrating—no, infuriating—to see how much of it was exaggerated for pure entertainment value rather than presenting an accurate account of events. If you’re writing a true crime book, at least have the decency to stick to the facts instead of embellishing every little detail for the sake of sensationalism. Carlo’s book reads less like a biography and more like a poorly written crime novel with a heavy dose of creative liberty. And let’s be real—Carillo’s fingerprints are all over that book. I’d bet anything he had a significant influence on the way Richard was portrayed, and Carlo was more than happy to play along because it made for a more compelling (and more profitable) story.

      And to be perfectly blunt, I think the vast majority of people who were close to Richard—especially those who still talk about him publicly—are nothing more than opportunistic grifters. They milk his name and legacy for everything it’s worth because, without it, they’re just nobodies. They cling to his infamy like leeches, constantly finding ways to inject themselves into the narrative so they can stay relevant. It’s pathetic. They thrive on attention, and the moment you acknowledge them, you’re giving them exactly what they want—another excuse to insert themselves into the conversation. That’s why I don’t even bother with them. If people stopped entertaining their nonsense, they’d fade into the background where they belong.

      But when it comes to someone like Doreen? That’s a completely different story. I have nothing but respect for her, regardless of how the hybristophile fangirls try to portray her. They love to twist things to fit their own ridiculous fantasies, acting like she was just another obsessed groupie when, in reality, she was one of the few people who actually knew Richard on a deeper level and wasn’t trying to exploit him for personal gain. I could go on a whole rant about the way people mischaracterize her, but let’s just say I have a lot of choice words that I’ll keep to myself for now.

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        VenningB

        The newer versions have an interview with Richard in the back. I have a 2016 edition as well as the ebook (which is what I used as a reference in the book so my given page numbers might not correspond with your edition). Weirdly the kindle version has variations in it like Richard’s age is different when Carlo retells a childhood event.
        Once you compare the books, you see just how much shit Gil Carrillo talks! 😂

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        Mine is the version with bits of interview transcripts at the end, a later edition.

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        Vivi

        I have both the 1996 edition and the digital version (which I may or may not have pirated, lol). I also know a few people who own later editions, and while the overall narrative remains the same, there are subtle yet noticeable differences across versions. Details like specific dates and Richard’s age at certain events vary, which is surprising considering this book is marketed as the definitive biography of the Night Stalker. You would think that a book claiming to be the ultimate account of his life would ensure that every detail was meticulously verified and consistent. But, like most media coverage of Richard, accuracy and truth take a backseat to sensationalism and entertainment.

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      4. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        That’s what makes it so annoying; that it IS marketed as the definitive biography when so much is demonstrably wrong with it.

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        Vivi

        The moment I read about Whitney Bennett and the supposed divine intervention—how blue sparks magically shot from the cord as Richard tried to strangle her, and how he suddenly believed God was stepping in to stop him—I knew the book was total BS. It reads less like a biography and more like a rejected script for a supernatural crime thriller. To be fair, you can occasionally catch glimpses of Carlo’s skepticism about the whole Night Stalker ordeal slipping through the cracks, which gives the book at least a sliver of credibility. But this is easily one of the most over-dramatized “biographies” or life stories of a “serial killer” I have ever read.

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      6. ~ Jay ~ Avatar
        ~ Jay ~

        Indeed! It read like a crime novel in the first part.
        He did pose some interesting questions in the trial section, and laid a small trail of doubt, which was the best part of the whole book.

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      7. VenningB Avatar
        VenningB

        The language is over the top in places; pretentious and corny. I read some out loud to my mother and she burst out laughing.

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        Vivi

        Carlo’s book is somewhat bearable if you listen to the Audible version, but honestly, that’s only because of the narrator’s voice. I can’t help but wonder how many takes he had to do just to get through all 18 hours of reading that nonsense with a straight face. If it were me, I’d still be recording months later because I’d be too busy cracking up every five minutes! 😂

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      VenningB

      That bothered me about Carlo’s book. I felt uncomfortable that he put words in the mouths of the dead. I’ve seen that interview with Shelly and Robert too. I reckon years of paint sniffing might have damaged Robert’s brain and that he possibly has dementia. Some of the stuff he comes out with is highly implausible, like the story where Richard killed a police dog and was prosecuted for it. Never happened, I’m calling it! Both he and Shelly have told a story about Richard arriving in a limousine and everyone thinking he had found fortune in L.A. but in the family testimonies, they were clearly aware that he was homeless, so no way did they believe this.

      Rosie’s “bestseller” sticker on the book was the most ludicrous thing! I guess she’s trying to “manifest” success but it came across so narcissistic and delusional, given that she tells a lot of stories about God speaking to her as a chosen one. I don’t think many people will want to read about that sort of stuff. So she has to add her mixed up, inaccurate recollections of her uncle for sales. I remember when she had Twitter and was friendly with all these Jeffrey Dahmer fans in the same way other Richard fangirls are. Some people even questioned that it was her – “why would she be a true crime fan girl if it was really her?” But it was really her! It made me feel that, as much as they talk about the trauma of having a notorious “killer” in the family, part of them revels in it. Otherwise they wouldn’t go public and argue on open social media accounts. All the other nieces and nephews are silent and living their lives as normal so it can be done.

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        Remember the old Twitter account when Rosie was bragging about the ring he bought her using the money his groupies sent? And the other one where she was explaining to a fangirl how to set up a Day of the Dead altar for Richard and what to put on it? Very odd behaviour! Regardless of all the God squad stuff, it is weird way to behave about someone you blame for every bad thing you’ve ever done in your life.
        There was a marked difference in demeanour between the pastor video, where both she and the pastor was gushing over the mention of Richard’s name, to the tears we saw on the Peacock documentary. It is so messed up, how can anyone rely on what is being said when the timeline doesn’t even fit? Carlo created that time vacuum by omitting to say where Richard was for those 18 months. Vacuums often get filled.
        We were told by another family member (one who doesn’t get involved in “the hustle”)n that the dog incident did not happen.

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        VenningB

        On “Pastor Sammy” she said she never told her family about Richard’s abuse because her mother and maternal side of the family were all violent drunks who wouldn’t listen and her father was too busy injecting heroin and going to prison. But in front of the nation on NBC Peacock, she turned on the tears to say she kept it secret because that’s what abused children do. “We learn to be quiet and blame ourselves” (not a verbatim quote). This led to speculation that Richard must have threatened her not to tell like a typical groomer, thus making him more sinister.

        She has two versions of every story, even when told just days apart, which is why, if this went to court, a competent defence lawyer would tear her story to shreds. She’s as bad as Carrillo. Who she is in touch with.

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        She also said that Richard “endorsed” her book. He may well have endorsed the ultra-religious bit, but I doubt she ever told him about his role in it. As if he’d agree to that bit, which seems to have been inserted years after his death.

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        kaycee0823

        A pathetic attempt to make her book look legitimate.

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        kaycee0823

        I’m left wondering between burglarizing, getting high, trying to figure out where he would sleep, or how he would eat, hanging around the delinquents at the bus station, going back and forth from LA and SF, when he had time to be around little Rosie?

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        kaycee0823

        I think she’s been coached.

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        kaycee0823

        I think the whole thing with the day of the dead altar says a lot about how she feels about Richard. You don’t honor someone with an altar unless you care about that person and want to keep their spirit and memory alive. Whether you have forgiven someone or not, I find it hard to believe u would want to keep the spirit of someone who abused you alive and keep a place for their spirit to come to.

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        kaycee0823

        Most of his nieces and nephews want nothing to do with the sensationalized b s. But we know two of them want as much attention as possible and try to make $ off his name. Robert comes across as having dementia. Shelly probably feeds him false information, which, if he has dementia, he wouldn’t realize she’s misleading him.

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      ~ Jay ~

      Eva O is an interesting one, again she thrives on the connection to Richard, and yet the fangirls seem to idolise her without the level of jealousy and hatred Doreen gets. Eva has managed to walk to fine line, where she can openly talk about her relationship with Richard without getting the insults.

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        kaycee0823

        It’s probably because she’s a bit odd and weird. They can probably relate. Lol. Whereas they could never relate to the Virgin Doreen who gave up everything for Richard.

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  49. Isabella 99 Avatar
    Isabella 99

    I m re – reading the fantastic comments about the Carlo book and the relation between Richards relatives . Especially the relation too Shelley and Rosie . And there is something I don t understand . Did Rosie say something on a Twitter account about how to make an altar for Richard ? I guess its s Mexican custom. And what I ve reread so far ..Rosie s story is not true , she s simply lying . And Richard gave her a ring as a present , the ring he financed with money from his fangirls ?? Oh no ! What did I read , haha !

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      Yes, you read correctly. She did give out instructions to a fangirl on how to make a Day of the Dead altar for Richard and to put apple juice and candy on it because “they were his favourites”.
      She also bragged that he’d given her money sent by groupies to pay for a ring. I think it might have been her class ring, and they can be expensive and I doubt she or her family had the cash, but her uncle did.

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        Isabella 99

        Totally crazy ..I m even more sorry for Richard . Those little anecdotes are so telling . Poor Richard .

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        Isabella 99

        I m still thinking about Rosie s actions….this should be made public too. They all tossed him about like a football !

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    Isabella 99

    This is a little off topic , but I always wanted to ask whether you know anything about Richard s finances . Did he earn money in prison with his drawings or the Carlo book etc ? Was he allowed to make money with his story ? And the nieces ..? Could anyone profit from his fame ? I know Doreen and Richie sold his hair and also some other stuff .

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      VenningB

      I think he was earning money from the drawings but was found out and wasn’t allowed anymore. His family never received anything from Carlo although I believe Richard did hope to provide for his mother via books. So no, he never really made money. I think the nieces have made money or intend to.

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      Richard earned nothing from the Carlo book apart from greater notoriety. He did start a little “enterprise” where someone (Eric, I think?) sold his drawings and split profits but that was discovered and he lost privileges again.
      Death row prisoners are not allowed to have prison jobs so they rely on outside support from outside to supplement whatever the prison provides. Richard used whatever was available to him to get what he needed, whether that was his drawings or money sent by the people who wrote to him. The only family members I’m aware of who use the connection to make money or to gain attention are Rosie and Shelly. Shelly has sold letters (some fake ones, too, allegedly) and family photographs that weren’t hers to sell, according to Jennifer. Carrillo also profits from his association with Richard, which he has ceaselessly promoted, more so since the release of the Netflix documentary. Doreen also sold things, as you know.

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        Isabella 99

        Allright , I see . This guy Bobby Beausoleill ( Charles Manson ) tried to set up a business with promoting his own music which he was allowed to produce in Texas prison . But he got into bad trouble with the prison regularities and he even lost chances of beeing in parole . This was after they had noticed some tricks he had used in order to set up this business with a person from the outside. This Beausolleil guy is 52 years in prison now. Married to a woman penfriend .

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