The Zazzara Incident

On March 28, 1985, Maxine and Vincent Zazzara were shot dead. The Zazzaras owned a pizza business managed by an individual named Bruno Polo. On the evening of March 28, Polo reportedly went to the Zazzara residence to drop off the daily proceeds from the pizza restaurant. He would later tell police the Zazarras did not answer the door, although the front door was open, the lights were on, and their vehicles were home. He returned the following morning and found the money he had left the previous evening had yet to be moved from where he had left it. At this point, he decided to enter the residence. He saw Vincent Zazzara lying on the couch with blood on his head. He ran out of the home and went to a neighbor’s to call Vincent Zazzara’s son. Apparently, they also called the police because law enforcement arrived at the Zazzara home shortly after this.

Maxine and Vincent Zazzara were both shot with a small caliber gun. Maxine’s eyes had been removed postmortem. Law enforcement found a pool of blood on the porch of a house across the street that was never elaborated upon. A bullet fragment was found on the bedroom floor, and jewelry was found in a bedroom drawer. A coin collection was found intact. A burglary had occurred at the Zazzara residence six weeks earlier, so law enforcement could not determine what had been stolen during this crime, if anything. Considering a coin collection, bags of money, and jewelry were found in the home, it doesn’t appear burglary was a motive.

The Avia Shoeprints

Police determined the point of entry was a window at the rear of the house. A latent fingerprint was lifted from the window screen. A shoe print was found on a tub under the rear window of the point of entry. Other shoe prints found outside the house near the bedroom window were similar to the shoe print on the tub. Two different shoe print patterns were found in the same area but the others – made by Vans – had come from the Zazzaras themselves.

The Zazzara crime scene was the first place the Avia shoe print was found. It was later found at the Doi, Bell and Lang, Cannon, Bennett, Nelson and Khovananth crime scenes and became the prosecution’s most compelling evidence.

Below, images of prints and casts from the crime scene:

The ‘herringbone’ print is just about visible…if you squint

The shoe impressions were examined by the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department criminalist, Gerald Burke. He opined that shoe prints at the scene matched an Avia Aerobics model in size 11-½ to 12.

Since the infamous Avia shoe was paramount in Richard’s trial, his attorneys needed to retain a shoe print identification expert, but failed to do so. The most they could say was that it never proven that Richard ever had or wore any type of Avia shoe.

It was not until 2004 and Ramirez’s automatic direct appeal that flaws in the prosecution’s evidence were revealed. His appellate lawyers enlisted shoeprint identification expert Lisa DiMeo. She determined that several different types of shoes could have made the prints on the yellow tub pictured above.

“The partial patent print on the top of the yellow bucket depicts a herringbone pattern of unknown origin. The size or design of the shoe that made this impression is unknown … any shoe exhibiting a similar herringbone pattern could have been the source of this partial print.”

Supplementary Declaration of Lisa DiMeo, Document 7.20.

The prints in the garden border were from Aerobics models but may not have been size 11.5 or 12 like Burke thought. DiMeo said:

“The two impressions that were cast in the Zazzara incident are sufficient to identify Avia Aerobics as the source based on several design features, however the exact size cannot be determined. The inclusion of the various sizes increases the pool of possible sources by tens of thousands.”

Supplementary Declaration of Lisa DiMeo, Document 7.20.

Ballistics

LASD firearms examiner Robert Christansen determined bullets found at the scene were fired from a .22-caliber firearm. The three recovered bullets were mutilated at 70% and 80%. An additioal .45 bullet was distorted at 95%. See his report below.

Robert Christansen’s report, Document 7.23

Richard’s attorneys presented no evidence to challenge the flawed ballistics or shoeprint analysis. They made no objections, retained no experts, and failed to introduce third-party suspect theories – leaving the prosecution’s case unchallenged.

Eventually, the prosecution expert, Edward Robinson, claimed the bullets matched the Khovananth slugs. The previous examiner, Christansen, said that he originally thought the Khovananth slugs were from a .25 ACP.

Maxine Zazzara’s eyes were not found in Richard’s parent’s home, his sister’s home, or in any of his belongings. They were never recovered. We have never heard anything about the fingerprint on the window screen, which leads us to conclude that it was not identified as Richard’s. If it had been, it would certainly have been used against him in court.

Mafia?

As with all the crimes Richard was convicted of, we’re left with more questions than answers. The most pressing is: who really killed Vincent and Maxine Zazzara? The evidence does not prove Richard Ramirez was responsible. So why was law enforcement so determined to pin this crime on him? The police claimed they looked into a possible Mafia connection but deemed it not worth pursuing. But how thoroughly was that lead really investigated?

Peter Zazzara, Vincent’s son, told two separate offciers, LASD Detective Russell Uloth and Deputy Sheriff Paul Archambault, that his father had ties to the Mafia and was involved in narcotics. He believed his father and stepmother may have been killed because of this. Vincent had previously served prison time for federal bank fraud, and Maxine had been his attorney. Yet at the preliminary hearing, Judge Nelson barred this line of questioning, preventing the Mafia theory from ever reaching trial.

If Ramirez truly was the notorious cat burglar the prosecution claimed, would he have left behind jewelry, a valuable coin collection? He wouldn’t – but someone did.

From the Los Angeles Times, March 30, 1986.

Steve Strong, a crime scene analyst and former LAPD detective working for Ramirez’s appellate lawyers, reviewed all of the Night Stalker crimes. He noted there was no distinctive pattern. This is what he said about the Zazzara crime:

“No fingerprints found belonging to petitioner [Ramirez]. Exact model or size of Avia shoe not determined. No weapon found or recovered from petitioner. No property recovered. Could have been more than 1 person [perpetrator]. Location: Whittier.”

From the Declaration of Steve Strong, Document 7.21.

KayCee

Jan 25, 2023

73 responses to “The Zazzara Incident”

  1. The police were clearly too lazy and inept to look into the mafia theory, the employee that brought the money, the pool of blood on the porch of a house across the street, or possible a drug deal gone wrong since the son said that his father was involved in narcotics. Carrillo was probably too desperate to catch a serial killer like Salerno that he just started hand picking different crimes to pin on the NS to get the investigations into these crimes over with as well as make the NS seem more scary. The murder of the Zazzaras seems more vengeful to me especially with Maxine’s eyes being removed. The son bringing up their ties to the mafia would have been a great clue for ‘good’ investigators. On top of that valuables and money in plain site that were not taken would’ve been warning sign number one for me that this was not the work of the NS as burglarizing has been established as part of his ‘MO’ . Richard was basically homeless, rumored to have been eating out of bins, and had a very serious drug problem why in the world would he have not burglarized the home especially when the items were so accessible. The rumor about him putting Maxine’s eyes in a jewelry box and then sending it to I think his father despite there not being any evidence that this happened is one of the dumbest theories I have ever heard of in my entire life and people taking it as basically canon proves to me that they are incapable of thinking with their own brain.

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    1. It’s unbelievable that the ‘mob’ aspect was just buried and wasn’t ever allowed to be raised at trial! Maybe the police were too scared to mess with that can of worms. Plus Carrillo was allegedly desperate to connect it to the child abductor and Okazaki and Yu as early as 3rd April 1985.

      But yes, the eyes thing is so ludicrous. They were searching for them almost 6 months after the murder and they would have been rotten!

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    2. this was clearly very very poor work done by those lazy ass popo!!!!! He clearly didn’t have a clue about jewelry nor there values and they expect that in the morning he’s clueless weak at crimes then suddenly at night he’s a pro killer with a skillful of criminals skills?! He was clearly clueless and had no idea what the hell is going on! Poor guy! Someone with his personality can’t be a criminal master mind and he’s very inexperienced as well! NO MO means they can literally pin anything on him! Also with the eye think with their ties to the mafia Richard wasn’t part of anything like that! Richard was a typical homeless man and just stealing stuff with huge drug problems that’s it! And he was still getting seizures I believe so wouldn’t it be possible that if he did hurt those victims he could have had seizures? But no victims claimed of such thing! More excuses to pin him with crimes he didn’t do!

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      1. “lazy ass popo” is the ultimate truth haha! I keep seeing comments on the internet that claim he kept the eyes in his house/sent them to family, kept them in a jewellery box. There is obviously no evidence for this. Those things would have rotten.

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      2. You know what crazy? That there are so many people back up the popos (i get it but still) saying that there is evidence of a lot of things but u sure about that is there really evidence cuz if there was it would have been shown already! They say a lot of BS without having proper evidence or any at all to back it up!

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      3. Oh God, that’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen!

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    3. LMAO they spent more time looking for rotten eyes than actually investigating cases. I’m actually crying!

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      1. Not to make light of Maxine Zazzara’s death…but the image of two rotten eyes being sent across several states without postal service people smelling or suspecting anything is amusing..

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      2. Yea no offense to her or anything but the smell alone probably would’ve made me stay at least a 100 feet away from the damn box. I wonder who pulled that theory out of their ass?

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      3. It feels like a “Gil one”

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      4. Lol maybe he read too many true crime books.

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  2. In what universe does it make sense to compare bullets that have up to 95% mutilation? I doubt that even looking at it under a microscope would yield better results. I have always been a little skeptical when people talk about bullet analysis on different tcc shows. In this case I am even more skeptical seeing as ,from my knowledge, they didn’t even find the guns that they think he committed these crimes so how do they know exactly what model and brand the weapons were with the bullets being this damaged. There isn’t any logical connection between Richard and these weapons and the crimes.

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    1. I don’t think this is in the post as it’s KayCee’s (but it will be in the book): according to one reporter at court, a .45 pistol was found in the house, thrown down the back of a dresser. It had been fired down through the bed and a bullet was recovered embedded in the floorboards. You never hear any more about this or the blood found at the neighbours. Something is being concealed about this case. Its also disgusting that the mafia angle was deemed hearsay and expunged from the record at the hearing and not allowed to be mentioned at trial…

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      1. The blood at the neighbors was also a huge red flag for me too. Did they find out who’s it was?

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      2. It’s never mentioned ever again. Frustrated doesn’t even cover my emotions!

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      3. Omg they are so frustrating. That’s like a great clue. How smooth brained are you to not follow up on it?

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      4. They just brush aside any leads because of Carrillo’s ‘one perp theory’… enraging. Like Anastasia Hronas and the man with the Native American headdress tattoo. An amazing lead brushed away because “it’s the Night Stalker!”

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      5. Stupid serial killer theory!

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      6. That he ‘uncovered’ before the main spree even started. I don’t even know what to make of that…

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      7. I wonder why they needed a serial killer so bad?

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      8. And the vaginal swab from Sakina Abowath.. brushed aside as if it didn’t matter. Satan is all powerful to allow Richard to leave other people’s bodily fluids behind.

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      9. “Apparently Richard is some sort of human chameleon. He can change his height, race, hair color, skin color, weight, even his blood type among other things. We’ve discovered the very first human chameleon! He can also be in two places at the same time. So maybe he can clone himself as well, maybe?”

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    2. it completely illogical and unreasonable

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      1. sometimes I wonder where did they come up with the idea that Satan helped him😂 how on earth with Richard’s states can he do what they accused him?! And eveything they say make no sense I feel like sometimes they making up the way the crimes afe linked or related just to pin them on him!

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      2. I think Richard was telling his own family that Satan could help him. He genuinely had a lot of delusions, especially when he was in a drugged state.

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      3. Like his special black stone where he kept his soul.. Poor guy, he really had some thought disorders.

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      4. And the Bible being thrown out of Cuba’s moving van. What a perfect scapegoat. Meanwhile… I don’t agree with the narrative that Zazzara was a satanic attack. The carving on Maxine’s skin doesn’t look like an inverted cross. People see what they want to see and are suggestible, as we know…

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      5. I guess with his state of mind, drug use and Brian damage etc.. he couldn’t have said anything that made sense or knowledgeable. And yet they word his words seriously and twisted it

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    3. Absolutely. I did a breakdown of the ballistics findings and reports, aptly named “Ballistics Bollocks!”.
      Have you seen it?

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    4. Ballistics Bollocks?

      Here you go, just in case you missed it.

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  3. The prosecution seemed to have the least amount of evidence connecting Richard to this case, but they weaved other cases through it to “strengthen” it.

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    1. The good old joinder.

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      1. I wonder what would’ve happened if the judge had refused the joinder and tried the cases in different groups?

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      2. Originally the defence wanted 8 trials, I think. With good lawyers, presenting a proper defence, including expert witnesses, etc, he may have had a chance. But, even saying that, he was branded the Night Stalker from the start, no juror can forget that. I still think the pressure to find him guilty would be there.

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      3. People seemed to be so hysterical and paranoid that they didn’t even care if law enforcement had the right guy or not. If the actual culprit(s) are still free this would’ve made them more bold and they would commit more crimes thinking they won’t get caught. I agree as a juror there was an incredible amount of both public and media pressure to find him guilty. I can imagine that they may have received not only verbal abuse, but also physical abuse if they found him not guilty.

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  4. it’s dumb how they have suck weak evidence to link him to this crime and other crimes where they had to sometimes manipulate it I think to show he did it? Like were is this so called evidence you claim for him? If you have it you would have used it it court for sure! They say alot but don’t show anything.

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    1. In the Spill-Over article on this blog written by Jay there is a excellent chart that shows how different pieces evidence found both found at the crimes and is suspected of having been used at the crimes was connected by the prosecution. Their connection to one another is what makes them “strong”. It’s kinda of like Jenga, if one block is missing it causes instability within the the whole ‘tower’ if that makes sense. The definitely spent a good half of the three year delay trying to figure out how to connect all the crimes together using their weak evidence. I personally find the serological evidence the most interesting. Barely any of it actual matched Richard and a lot of the findings don’t seem to have been presented in court (probably because it doesn’t match).

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      1. This! Take away the shoes, the whole thing collapses. Take away Solano, it also collapses. The bullet/gun connection was contrived, Carrillo more or less admitted it, so that aspect would also bring the house of cards down too. Mental.

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      2. Exactly ! Also if any serological results matched him they would used it in court but they didn’t which makes me think and believe that Richard wasn’t at all the guy and the right guy is stilll out there

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      3. Are they even allowed to pick and choose what type of evidence they can present? Don’t they have to present all evidence that they found even if it is favorable to the defense?

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      4. It has to be fair Richard had every right to show his evidence idk why wasn’t and only the prosecutors were allowed to show their evidence.

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      5. His attorneys were too incompetent and lazy to present any evidence since they weren’t being paid from lucrative book and movie deals they thought they were gonna get. There were several instances where they would contact different experts for the case and then not release any evidence for them to analyze and give testimony on. The stupidity is astounding!

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      6. It’s absolutely disgusting! Why on earth they thought their own ballistics and shoeprint experts weren’t necessary, is beyond imagining. They DID retain Paul Dogherty, the firearms expert, and then didn’t bother to give him the evidence to test. It’s outrageous, and frankly frightening to think that this was allowed to happen. His habeas lawyers retained him later, post conviction, and he wanted all that evidence retesting.

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      7. Remember their Special Master Brian Wraxall was given the AC/DC hat way too late for trial 😔

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      8. It’s staggering to believe this went on. All of this mistakes are downplayed in favour of nonsense like poor Maxine Zazzara’s eye’s being in a box. Yet idiots lap that up like a dog laps up it’s own vomit.

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      9. I think Carlo made out that Richard was carrying them about in a box which is just too much! Too ridiculous!

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      10. Because his lawyers failed to do their job, that’s why.

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      11. Indeed those bums did , u guys would make wayyy better lawyers

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      12. I’m sure they are allowed but I’m guessing cuz the cops are scared that if they are in favour of the defence they will set Richard free and that’s soemthing they didn’t want at all and if Richard did show any evidence on his end then they also scared they will find him innocent when they wanted him guilty I believe but I ain’t too sure! Haha

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      13. Yes, all evidence on discovery, must be disclosed, even if it’s favourable to the defence. Failure to do so is a Brady Violation.

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  5. I totally agree with you vivi! That’s one crazy pressure they must have had! But still! They should she done their jobs properly cuz there’s a young man’s life at risk! His lazy H twins didn’t at all fight for him the way they should have it was about money to them to all of them really! You give them money you get a got defence you don’t you get shitty defence! It’s like not matter even if Richard’s team showed the juror evidence do you think they believe him or the prosecution? That’s the thing! And Bonita smith and many other I think jurors claimed that his attorneys were so bad and that he was truly railroaded but yet they still choose guilty without studying the evidence correctly and properly and just blindly believe them to be true without any knowledge about them and voted guilty!

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    1. People seemed to have been caught up in all the violence and hysteria going on in the county that they weren’t thinking straight. The media and law enforcement wasn’t helping either. The jurors definitely weren’t properly vetted especially for their feelings towards satanism and such. A change of venue should’ve definitely been granted in my opinion there was too much bias and prejudice against Richard in LA county. I agree even with all of these factors they should’ve still acknowledged that they virtually had a young mans life in their hands and whatever verdict they arrived at would not only determine what the rest of his life would be like, but also his family and the victims and their families. Personally, if I sentenced someone to be gassed 19 times and I had any doubt about my decision, the guilt alone would destroy me. If they had doubts they should’ve caused a hung jury, the defense definitely didn’t present enough evidence, as clearly defined in this blog. But the evidence presented by the prosecution was not enough to arrive at a verdict let alone sentence someone to the gas chamber. There is a lot of reasonable doubt.

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      1. I couldn’t have said it better my self! It’s super crazy and annoys me very much that they had to rely of flimsy faulty evidence! And especially fire people whom are against death row like how on earth is that even fair or justice?! It’s a joke to justice! This reminds me of a scene in a tv show I watched long time ago avatar haha where he gets arrested the kid without any proof or evidence and he wasn’t allowed to defend himself and people believed the man over him and the man was saying some nonsense shit and then he said soemthing the kid about the judge like where is he and the man was like he is the judge cuz it’s JUST(US) lol. It basically Richard vs the world!

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      2. Yes, Vivi, all of this! There was a case for reasonable doubt, but because of his damn lawyers, the jury never got to see it. Nor did they see his psychiatric reports and the doubts surrounding his competency to understand and assist his defence rationally. And (horrifically) there was no mitigation. The jury waited for it, and it never came. I know Richard thought it was “useless and would do no good” and didn’t seem to want to “beg” for his life, but at that point in the game, his lawyers should have overridden that and done it anyway. Clark is massively at fault here, as his closing argument was nothing short of shambolic.
        Tynan also erred in not explaining to the jury what “Life without hope of parole” actually means, he let them think that, because of the word “parole”, he might be released later. He addressed them in “court speak”, as it were, and I don’t think they understood their instructions.

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      3. Damn I’d expect that because jurors most of the time are laymen or don’t know much about law at all that the judge would break everything down for them to the ‘T’ to ensure a fair trial and verdict. Talking to a jury in “court speak” is like try to explain astrophysics to a three year old. It’s far too complex and confuses them.

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  6. I love how we’re doing the job of the attorney and detectives while there out there doing the same old shit and Gil earning his money with constant same old lie. But do you notice how no matter what how you try to unlink the crimes or see how they add up to them I feel like Gil will just come up with new lies to how they link together or relate! That eye think was clearly a Mafia related crime didn’t there son say they involved in mafia?! They didn’t want to find the right guys so they pin it on Richard . They were literally expecting a break in! How on earth with Richard’s kind of skill gonna even be apart of the mafia?! Next think you know they say even say that was a part of som mafia cult or whatever

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    1. They have to keep coming up with all kinds of weird stories to not only keep up their narrative, but also keep people interested. Them claiming that Richard was levitating during his interrogation is so funny to me! The tcc can be so hypocritical sometimes, they don’t realize that innocent people had to go through so much pain and trauma for those shows, documentaries, podcasts, and interviews to even exist.

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      1. It’s crazy it’s not fair to Richard his family and the the victims they really making a joke out of this case all for what money and fame and to be always right cuz again popo don’t do bad shit! Oh plz give me a damn break! And that Satan shit gets me laughing all the time! And also to take advantage of a guy suffering how sick can these people be to do that all for their own selfish needs

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      2. This case reveals the lengths that people will go to profit off the suffering of others. It’s really telling of human nature.

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      3. People are more cruel than animals

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      4. Very true. Animals usually only do what they need to survive. But humans go beyond that and purposefully inflict suffering on others for their own gain.

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      5. Exactly! I came home with bruises on my body from this guy and you know what I did? I still helped him with life I still helped him with his suicidal thoughts while I was having it worse than him! I put everything side for what? To end up getting beaten?! If you do that to a dog they will forgive you and still love you! That’s why I love animals more than people I’m tired of getting hurt I’d die for my little doggy even tho we have a love hate relationship 😂

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      6. I find them to be the biggest hypocrites of them all. They don’t allow a proper discussion, which really is the opposite of what a “true crime community” should be about.

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      7. They just believe everything spoon fed to them. But if you raise any questions suddenly your a groupie or hybristophile. It’s like no I’m just trying to have a civil conversation like an adult unlike you. If something can’t be questioned and constructively criticized then it shouldn’t exist.

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      8. That’s one of his favourite anecdotes, it is so ridiculous.

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  7. I’m stiill so angry for getting called a stupid dumb bitch!

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  8. sometimes I don’t even know what to tell them sometimes I get scared what if they literally come after me! If defending Richard makes me a stupid dumb bitch then ok I’m a proud stupid dumb bitch! Nothing you do will get them off your backs! Groupie this groupie that shut up already!

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    1. My advice, for what it’s worth, is to just stop engaging with them. Whatever you say they won’t listen. They don’t like the court papers, they get very offended by them, and so when faced with that inability to look at legal documentation, beyond a rudimentary glance, you are banging your head against a brick wall.

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      1. Honestly i agree! I was stupid to even engage with them but omg once I found this blog I was beyond happy omg you should have seen my face in literally checking you page ever 2 mins for updates about books and new blog pages you guys idc what you guys say but are my HEROS really you are you inspires me to fight the same! I needed that! I give up a lot I’ve been in pain a lot people taking advantage of me a lot! So you guys helped inspire me I told my family that I want to help homeless and drug addicted people cuz I truly care for them too!

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  9. no one is allowed to challenge or even question this case this is so ridiculous like we just have to accept the official narratives and that’s it! They concentrate of this in this case that they barely or didn’t at all actually do any investigations on things that need serious investigations on! And they did investigation on things that are just lame and useless and wasting time! I agree that’s there’s reasonable fucking doubt! I totally and completely agree with you guys on that! So much doubt that people look past it not caring! But what if it happens to them then? Would they want to fight it and prove their innocence ha! And those true crime podcast I hate them and does make up girly one omg!!! My uncles ex girlfriend also does true crime podcast and I had to block on my instagram I lost so much respect for her I saw Richard’s face on her post and I got angry!

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  10. also if u guys ever need me to stop talking let me know I talk too much I even tell myself that it’s too funny 😂🙄

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    1. We would never be so rude, that’s not our style. We only bite if provoked. Ha ha! You’re not talking too much, we are all talking.

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      1. You guys are really making me cry (I’m a good way) thank you! 😊

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