The Shoe Prints: Avia, a Cinderella Story

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“I need not look beyond this room to see all the liars, the haters, the killers, the crooks, the paranoid cowards. Truly the trematodes of the earth, each of one his own legal profession.”

Richard Ramirez, taken from transcripts during his court address prior to sentencing.

If you condemn someone to death, you’d better hope you’re in possession of all the facts. All of them, 100%, beyond any reasonable doubt. All evidence laid out, cast iron; irrefutable. You had better be sure.

But what if a jury is wilfully and deliberately misled? What if false testimony and unsound facts are presented? Expert witnesses who are not actually “experts” or fully trained in the intricacies of the subject in question? What if the defence counsel is woefully inadequate, unequal to the task, lacks experience, or sometimes not even present? Who defends the undefended?

In this item, I want to discuss the most recounted pair of sneakers, the infamous black Avia Aerobic shoes, model 445b, size 11 1/2. Model 445 came in white, and white aerobic shoes didn’t fit the profile of the so-called Night Stalker. Interestingly, in the Netflix documentary Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer, the detectives refer to the Avia model as a 440, which they inexplicably show instead. That is incorrect.

Avia 440s are women’s aerobic sneakers. They came in size 5 to 10, Richard was size 12. Yet celebrity detectives would like us to believe that the 6ft 1 Ramirez crammed his size 12s into a woman’s shoe.

The “phantom sneakers” have followed this case all the way from 1985. Footprints, partial prints and impressions were found at eight of the crime scenes and it was these prints that law enforcement used, along with ballistics to link the crimes together. More information can be found in in this post and also in this one.

The jury and the world have been persuaded that only one pair of shoes could possibly have made those prints, one shoe, one perpetrator. This, on the contrary, is incorrect.

Declaration of Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19. To clarify, it is the heel design that is needed to identify an Avia model. Partial impressions and prints are not good enough.

The information within this article comes from the Federal Petition of the Writ Of Habeas Corpus, filed by the Public Defenders Office in 2008, and the declaration of Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo (document 7-19). Both of these are available through the Plainsite.org for anyone looking.

Lisa DiMeo is a forensic specialist, trained in crime scene analysis and impression evidence, including latent prints, footwear, tire treads and bloodstain patterns. She has repeatedly provided expert testimony in both Federal and State jurisdictions.

Additional access to evidence was denied by the government. You have to ask the question why? Habeas Corpus, page 428

Oh, Those Avias…

The narrative that Richard Ramirez left a trail of footprints at eight of the crime scenes has been universally accepted. It’s true that shoe prints and impressions were found, but as for the truth of it, well, that’s a little more hazy.

Supplementary Declaration of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20.

There is no proof whatsoever that Richard ever purchased, owned, borrowed, danced the Tango, or ever wore a pair of Avia sneakers. No evidence, and no one who knew him ever said so, apart from law enforcement and counsel for the prosecution.

We have also been led to believe that once Richard realised that they had his footprints, thanks to (the now late) Mayor, and later Senator Dianne Feinstein’s San Francisco press conference of 23rd August 1985, he, at 8pm that very night, strolled into the centre of the Golden Gate Bridge and threw those incriminating Avias into the bay and began wearing the Stadia brand instead. However, the Stadias had already appeared at the Abowath incident on 8th August, so we can discount that nugget of information, too.

This image, taken from the Fox documentary, shows an acetate overlay of a Stadia, so it is hard to make out any partial sole pattern on the actual floor. Sakina Abowath said in her police report that her attacker was wearing boots.
Declaration of expert witness, Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19.

Once more, there is no proof, evidence, or witnesses that this ever happened. Indeed, Richard never said anything of the sort. It was all so convenient, perhaps to explain why they failed to discover the shoes in question. This erroneous rhetoric has been accepted as gospel, retold and recounted repeatedly, and, rather like a macabre Cinderella story; only one shoe is possible...but not the one pictured below.

In Jerry Stubblefield’s design patent for the Aerobic sole, there were TWO heel designs in the Aerobics class.
The sole pictured here featured three graduating bars in the heel and was found in Avia models 252, 255, 225w, 552R, 560, 565w, and 565.
The heel design associated with the Night Stalker crimes had a slightly different heel design; the three bars were all of equal length; in other words, they didn’t graduate. Models with this heel included 160, 240w, 440w, 440wg, 445 and 445b. (There is no available patent picture for these models, probably because they were so similar).

Without those heel inclusions, it cannot be narrowed down, and as this sole patent was in use for the other models before 1985 (only the 445 and 445b were released that year), just how many different shoes do you imagine were already out there with that same sole pattern?

Stubblefield’s design patent.
A November 1982 advert featuring a sneaker with an identical sole pattern

If The Shoe Fits..

Habeas Corpus, page 427

Gerald Burke, a Sheriff’s Crime Lab criminalist, examined the prints and impressions. He had no previous experience in either shoe print or impression evidence. Subsequently, he lacked the necessary training to compare evidence correctly.

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Retained as an expert witness for the prosecution, his testimony regarding shoe print evidence contributed to the misconception that only one pair of Avia shoes could have made the impressions. Burke, after comparing 97 brands, determined that the prints were made by an Avia shoe, size 11-12, and after a visit to Avia HQ, announced it was model 445b.

Declaration of Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19.
Declaration of Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19. Gerald Burke was incorrect in telling the jury that only one model of shoe could be considered. Without the complete heel impressions there is no way to tell.

Furthermore, Avia Footwear data processing manager, Jeff Brewer, testified in court that in Southern California, from January to July 1985, twenty-four pairs of Avia shoes, model 445b, were sold. Of these, only one pair was size 11 1/2, and black. This information led the jury to believe that only one pair of shoes in Southern California could have made those impressions and prints. This was simply not true. In addition, Jerry Stubblefield, designer of the Avia aerobic shoe, misled the jury into believing that the soles of models 445 and 445b were different. Both Brewer and Stubblefield were themselves mislead by Carrillo telling them that the man he was hunting wore black sneakers, when he had no evidence of that.

Totalling tens of thousands of shoes.. Declaration of Forensic Specialist Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19

Here, as in the rest of the trial, Richard was severely let down by his defence counsel, who failed to challenge any of these points. How this trial was allowed to continue is mystifying. Everyone, no matter who they are, is entitled to a competent defence, especially during a trial where life is at stake. That is a fundamental right. The defence introduced no expert witness of their own.

Habeas Corpus, page 427.
Defence counsel, Daniel Hernandez and Richard Salinas (paralegal) in court with Richard. (From the Herald Examiner Collection).

The Incidents

I use the word “incident” instead of “crime”, as this is the wording used in the petition and other documents. It is not to downplay or distract from what happened in Los Angeles during 1985, nor do I wish to focus on the horror of it, as that is not the purpose of this piece. Here expert witness testimony will be applied to misconceptions and misleading information delivered during the trial.

Of the eight incidents detailed below, one is referred to as the “uncharged incident”, however it still featured as part of the trial.

Please refer to our LA CRIMES section for a full analysis of the individual incidents.

Vincent and Maxine Zazzara

“The two impressions that were cast in the Zazzara incident are sufficient to identify Avia Aerobics as the source based upon several design features, however the exact size cannot be determined. The inclusion of the various sizes increases the pool of possible sources by tens of thousands. Other shoeprint impressions, which appear to be Avia Aerobic shoes were photographed, but not cast. The partial patent print on the top of the yellow bucket depicts a herringbone pattern of unknown origin. The size or design of the shoe that made this impression is also unknown. A measuring scale placed in the photograph would have assisted in determining the size of the herringbone pattern. Any shoe exhibiting a similar herringbone pattern could have been the source of this partial print”.


Supplementary Declaration of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20

William and Lillian Doi

Supplementary declaration of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20

Mabel Bell and Florence Lang

It’s not even limited to Avias here because of lack of clarity. Declaration of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20.

Mary Louise Cannon

“In the Cannon incident, Mr. Burke testified that a partial shoe impression in carpet was made by a right Avia Aerobic shoe. (175 RT 20406.) He did not go to the scene, but the section of carpet was brought to him at the laboratory. (175 RT 20405.) Burke admitted that by the time he got the carpet sample he was unable to observe any specific pattern. (175 RT 20407.) In a written report prepared by Mr. Burke, dated July 15, 1985, (see exh. 1, Burke’s one-page report attached to the supplemental declaration) regarding his examination of three carpet samples through GB-3), bearing impressions collected from the Cannon scene, he stated as to GB-l(tria1 exh. 19 D-I), “There is no definite pattern present to identify the print as being made by a specific brand of shoe. [Carpet samples] GB-2 and GB-3 were neither photographed nor examined due to lack of detail on the carpet imprints.” (See exh. I.) However, by the time of trial he had made an identification of one of the carpet impressions as a right Avia Aerobic shoe”. (175 RT 20407.)

Supplementary declaration of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20
Attachment 20. Originally, Burke never found discernible shoe prints on the carpet, he changed his mind by the time he was called to testify. The taped overlay of an Avia sole attached to the carpet photo in his display, led the jury into believing the print was there. Oh well, we’ll just make it fit!
Did Burke deliberately mislead the jury? Document 7-20, supplementary declaration of Lisa Di Meo.

“The court display (trial exh. 20 A- I) also showed a photograph of a partial print on a white facial tissue. The print consisted of eight short parallel lines, none exceeding one inch in length, and two “V” shaped patterns. Gerald Burke testified that a left Avia Aerobic shoe was the source of the partial print on the tissue based upon his observation of the eight straight lines and chevron pattern. (175 RT 20408.) Based on my review of the evidence, the eight lines could be part of the pivotal flex-joint design, which is not exclusive to the Avia Aerobic model, and is in fact present on all men’s Coaches and Basketball models, as well as several women’s Avia shoe models.

Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20

Whitney Bennett

Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20.

“ Mr. Burke’s explanation of how he determined the model of the shoe that left the print in the Bennett incident was based on “the lower chevron pattern, it comes up to meet the lower straight line in the ball area of the foot.” (1 75 RT 20412.) I disagree with Mr. Burke’s explanation. All men’s and women’s Avia Aerobic, Basketball and Referee Coaches shoe models share this same feature: the chevrons below the flex joint meet the lower straight line [of the flex-joint] in the ball area of the foot“.

“Mr. Burke made an identification based on his assumption that only the Avia Aerobic model contains ten chevrons below the flex-joint without having examined all the other Avia model and size shoes produced. Mr. Burke should not have made an identification to the exclusion of all other possibilities without empirical observations and testing. A qualified analyst would not state an absolute without collecting all the available data. Again, Mr. Stubblefield never stated when asked about distinguishing design features that the shoe models were dependent upon a certain number of chevrons. Forensic experts frequently use qualifying terms to support an association between a questioned piece of evidence and a defendant, including coincide, consistent with, not dissimilar, could have originated from, could not be excluded as a possible source, or compatible with. The concern is with respect to an analyst’s testimony that there is an association between a questioned impression and a known shoe which will be improperly interpreted by jurors as a definite match. The inclusion of additional possible Avia shoe models would increase the pool of tens of thousands of shoes that could have left the impressions on the comforter”.

Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20

Note: There were two differing shoe prints found in the Bennet incident, more information on that can be found in this post.


Joyce Nelson

Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20
Continuation of the Nelson incident. Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20.

Chainarong and Somkid Khovananth

Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19. Without the all-important heel impressions identification isn’t possible.

The “Uncharged” Incident – Clara Hadsall

See THIS POST for a breakdown of the Hadsall incident.

Tens of thousands of shoes could be the source of these prints.. Lisa DiMeo, document 7-20.

In Conclusion..

The finding of expert witness and forensic specialist Lisa DiMeo refutes the prosecution about the incidents detailed above. Her expert testimony cannot be disregarded and shows conclusively that misinformation was deliberately introduced and fed to the jury in the increasingly circus-like atmosphere both inside and outside the court. Gerald Burke had neither the experience nor training to compare footprints and impressions. The casting impressions were distorted, measurements incorrectly obtained, and the lack of individual print characteristics rendered the prosecution findings scientifically unreliable and unsafe.


Habeas Corpus, page 434.

Had Richard Ramirez had a competent defence counsel with an expert witness, such as Ms DiMeo, they could have challenged this flimsy evidence and presented to court evidence regarding the massive pool of possible shoes and testimony regarding shoe measurement. Competent counsel would have done so, but Arturo and Daniel Hernandez failed to provide a proper defence. By any reasonable account, it is clear that Richard was abysmally represented. Indeed, several jurors made statements indicating that a different outcome may have been possible had all the evidence and mitigating facts been presented.

But that didn’t happen.

Conclusion of Lisa DiMeo, document 7-19

And so..

I will go back to the beginning and ask, what if the person on the witness stand, swearing that the evidence they shall give is “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”, isn’t delivering the facts?

If this doesn’t make you angry, it should. Document 7-20, Lisa DiMeo

“The worst form of injustice is pretended justice.”

Plato

And there it is..


Richard Ramirez pictured during a court hearing.

~ Jay ~

49 responses to “The Shoe Prints: Avia, a Cinderella Story”

  1. Daisybubble74 Avatar
    Daisybubble74

    I can’t imagine how I would feel as a juror in this case knowing that I had very likely taken away someone’s freedom based on insufficient and incorrect evidence. Great read again – can’t wait for the next instalment!

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    1. It’s really quite disturbing. Thank you for your comment.

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  2. Jennifer Hansol Avatar
    Jennifer Hansol

    I always wondered about the trainers. The fact that there were many other types of trainers giving the same impression is disturbing. They were never recovered, so shoddy investigation wise to expect people to sentence a man on no evidence and withheld evidence is in itself criminal. Lawyers out to get names for themselves again.

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    1. I agree. It’s one thing that seems so obvious and the explanation given makes no sense, and there is no evidence to support what was said. If he could’ve afforded a decent lawyer, things would be very different. As it was he was left practically undefended and did not take in that he had the right to a proper defence in a trial where his life was at stake.

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  3. Sometimes, I can’t even begin to comprehend how those jurors voted for guilty much less a death sentence based on the so called evidence. Yes, they were deliberately misled by the prosecution and Richard’s attorneys conceded a lot of the so called evidence without even putting forth any type of defense. Still, that jury chose to believe things when there was reasonable doubt. Some jurors gave statements that they didn’t think the trial was fair. So how can you vote for conviction if you believe the trial wasn’t fair? Part of due process is having a fair trial with an adequate defense. Even alternate jurors commented on the conflicting eyewitness identifications and how Richard’s attorneys were terrible and didn’t fight for him. The jury was biased and easily swayed. And Tynan was a biased jerk too. The things he allowed to go on in that trial are despicable. He was supposed to be the gatekeeper, ensuring a fair trial. He did no such thing. In fact, Tynan made sure the trial was lopsided and unfair. Not that he had to work hard to do it with the Hernandezes as Richard’s attorneys.

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    1. Sometimes it’s so refreshing to see that not everyone is swayed by the Netflix nonsense and actually looks at the facts. The trial was biased from the start, Tynan knew exactly what he was doing; one uncharged incident that served the defence was not allowed but the other uncharged one, that served the prosecution, was..
      Ramirez is still blamed for murders that serological tests show he couldn’t have committed, beyond any reasonable doubt and yet he received the death penalty.
      Of course had Richard had a half decent defence, the whole thing would have been torn apart. Money buys a good lawyer, he didn’t have any.
      Jury members speaking out after the fact just makes me annoyed. If they knew it wasn’t fair, then why?
      Thank you for your insight and thoughts on this.

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  4. […] claimed, was a size 11 or 11½ but there was insufficient evidence to obtain accurate impressions. See this article for more information on shoe forensics. It must be added, that Richard took a size 12 – not that anyone bothered to measure his feet, or […]

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  5. […] impressions were discovered in only eight incidents, and as shown in the “the Emperor’s New Clothes”, false evidence regarding shoeprint impressions, was knowingly presented to the jury. A full […]

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  6. […] impressions were discovered in only eight incidents, and as shown in this post, false evidence regarding shoeprint impressions was knowingly presented to the jury. A full […]

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  7. […] middle of a road; there was no burglary, no rape, no slashing, no bludgeoning, no satanism and no Avia shoes. However, by mid-August 1985, detectives had linked it to the other murders, just because it […]

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  8. […] were discovered at the location of a child abduction in Eagle Rock. Ahh, there we have it. It was those “rare” shoes that only one man in the whole of California could have owned. So, a paedophile incident was the first crime to feature the Avias, not the Zazzara murder […]

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  9. […] You may also believe the highly inaccurate fiction of The Footprints, left allegedly, by the only pair of Avia aerobic shoes (in a particular style and size) everywhere the killer trod. Indeed, these obligatory footprints, around which has been built some of the sketchiest evidence ever seen, have followed this case around for over 30 years. More info on THOSE prints can be found in this post. […]

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  10. […] middle of a road; there was no burglary, no rape, no slashing, no bludgeoning, no satanism and no Avia shoes. However, detectives had linked it to the other murders, just because it occurred on the same night […]

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  11. […] the lack of evidence, the misleading of the jury by the deliberate, wrongful presentation of FOOTPRINTS, unreliable eyewitness statements, coupled with false testimony. Add to that perjury, and how […]

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  12. […] So why was he blamed for these crimes?  Because the prosecution, determined that the gun used in the Kneiding incident was the gun used in the Okazaki and Yu incidents.  The shoeprint found at the Khovananth, linked to the other supposed Avia prints found elsewhere and her eyewitness testimony, which she changed.  That is indeed a far reach, because, as has been shown, the evidence put forward by the prosecution was found to be false and unreliable, as discussed in THIS POST. […]

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  13. […] defence half-heartedly told the jury that Richard was not currently wearing Avias and had never been seen wearing them. True enough, but what was the point in saying that after conceding the prints were from Avias? […]

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  14. […] trial was a mess from beginning to end, with falsified evidence, “expert” prosecution witness deliberately misleading the jury. A string of constitutional violations and unethical practices. It starts and ends with his […]

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  15. […] California: those infamous Avia Aerobic 445b’s. The problem here is that it simply wasn’t true. In THIS post , the shoeprint saga is fully examined, so I will not repeat everything, however, I would encourage […]

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  16. […] this time, a big deal is being made by the police about the ubiquitous Avia prints. After they were found at the previous attack two days earlier, (Whitney Bennett), Sergeant Frank […]

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  17. […] Avia shoes were ever found on or in Richard’s possession, nor was his shoe size determined at any […]

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  18. […] was the first scene where the Avia shoe print was found. Per Gerald Burke, the inexperienced LAPD shoeprint examiner, shoe prints at the scene matched an Avia shoe size 11-½ to 12. LAPD firearm experts determined […]

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  19. […] our previous posts we have shown how expert witnesses, retained by the habeas lawyers, examined the shoe print and ballistics evidence. Where the evidence presented by the prosecution was inaccurate and […]

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  20. […] can read more about the findings of forensic specialist Lisa Dimeo HERE. *spoiler* Tens of thousands of shoes could have been responsible for those infamous […]

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  21. […] against what the Crime Lab criminalist testified to at the trial. Considering the unbelievable Avia story connected to some of the crimes, you would hope they’d at least try to get it […]

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  22. […] have gone over this many times, but let me direct you to THIS POST for a complete breakdown of the Avia story to save repetition; now, for one last time, let’s […]

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  23. I can’t help remembering: when I got interested in this case, the very start, I watched some YouTube documentaries. And every time they stated, that Ramirez threw these shoes away from the Golden Gate bridge into water, after hearing in the new, that police discovered them. And every time the same question would come into my mind: “But, if he threw them away from Golden Gate bridge, how did they know he ever owned these shoes?” And it is the SIMPLEST, the most PRIMITIVE question ine can give her/hisself.

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    1. That information wasn’t correct, it was said that Richard, after hearing Feinstein’s TV speech on 23rd August, threw away the Avias and started wearing Stadias instead. The Stadia print had already appeared on the 8th August. This was just an excuse they gave out because there wasn’t actually any proof that he owned Avias.

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      1. Well, makes everything even “funnier”, bacause it is what they say in every documentary I found on YouTube.
        And people then ask me why I don’t trust Wikipedia…

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  24. It’s yet another “myth”, probably the biggest, that surrounds this case; the lie that one shoe alone could have made those infamous prints. Not true.

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    1. My dear Jay, this whole case and court belongs to mythology. As I mentioned before, in my previous comment, the most primitive question one with solid mind can ask her/himself is – How did they know Ramirez had those shoes, if they tell that he threw them away before being arrested? There are many, too many other questions, that a person with basic critical thinking should ask: Did they prove Ramirez had those shoes? Did they measure his feet? How can one shoe alone make all of these prints? How could they figure out all the whole pattern, if sometimes it were just parts of the shoe print? How could they correctly measure the size of the shoes by photographs from prints? How can you convict someone to 19 death centences based on evidence like shoe print??? From the very start it felt ridiculous, it’s just common sense! Correct me, if I am wrong, did detectives really think that Richard was their one and only? Only one wearing an AC/DC cap, only one wearing avia shoes, Felipe Solano’s only provider, only satanist in LA etc. Correct me onece again, if I am wrong, weren’t those things happening in the time of satanic pannic? And were not AC/DC popular in LA in those years? I remember, Venning once wrote that they had a tour and had merchandise in many stores? But no, it didn’t work for detectives. Maybe it was just – Oh, Ricky, you so fine, you blow my mind; I don’t see no other man, boy you have turned me blind?
      Let’s make it a joke, because I’m starting getting angry as I think about evidences of that trial.

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      1. Well, you’ve read what we’ve got to say about this, and in unpicking the evidence given in court by the prosecution and their “non-expert” expert witness it’s pretty obvious the shoe print evidence was falsified to deliberately mislead the jury. And yes.. according to the State Prosecutors, Ramirez was the only criminal in the whole of California and once he was caught no one else was killed..*cough cough* “LA can breathe a sigh of relief tonight”. Yeah, right!
        Ever heard of Janelle Cruz? She was killed in 1986, her murder was similar in MO to the attempted murder of Whitney Bennett. Had Cruz died in 85, they’d have pinned that one on him as well. Guess who actually killed Janelle Cruz – The “Original Night Stalker”, now called The Golden State Killer.

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  25. As for the AC/DC cap, again there is no proof it was Richard’s, and Maria Hernandez did not seem independently recall her attacker wore one. “She did not remember if he was wearing a hat, but if he was it was dark”. The hat they found wasn’t tested by either prosecution or defence.
    AC/DC were touring that year so merchandise would have been everywhere.

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  26. The hat thing is such a joke, that even makes me laugh, even if it’s cruel. I question the sanity of the jurors every time I read some documents of R.R’s case.

    And yes, I am far away from being an expert, I’m just a girl, who’s interested in true crime, and I learned about The Golden State Killer Before The Night Stalker (in 2018, when he got arrested). And when I then would read about R. Ramirez’s crimes, I couldn’t get free from flashbacks that some of them had Golden’s M.O. And even one of photorobots, made by victims description of the attacker, reminded me of Golden. But, I guess (I may be wrong) Joseph DeAngelo (unlike poor, Mexican, drug addict Ramirez, who clearly had some mental issues, who couldn’t even behave himself in the court, let alone defend himself, and who’s attorneys were 2 biggest clowns that worked in law) was a WASP, smart influencial, smart police officer, who know how to deal with evidence, how to clear it etc, a criminal “mastermind” = very difficult to catch.

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  27. […] obtained or falsified evidence. Below is one such […]

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  28. […] rather like the absent absent Avia sneakers, no cat or cat hairs were ever established in court, and the prosecution had to drop this charge, […]

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  29. […] blog, the jury was drip-fed misleading and often false, inaccurate information, whether regarding shoeprints or, in this instance, ballistics […]

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  30. […] discussed in an earlier post, the defence didn’t retain an expert witness to challenge the prosecution’s misleading shoeprint evidence. Daniel rallied to the task with another in-court display, which purportedly showed all the […]

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  31. Part of me will always be a little mad at Richard for simply not saying, “they’re not my shoes.” I’ve met a few men as tall as him and they wore a size 13, some even 14. If his feet are anything like his hands, I doubt he fits a size 11.
    Honestly, I don’t understand why the shoe prints were even considered evidence in court if nobody found no shoes and whatever footwear Richard wore when he was arrested was never analyzed. They didn’t even check the size. And since his lawyers weren’t questioning a-ny-thing, I wonder if they didn’t simply agree with the prosecution and the media, and basically just grabbed money from Richard’s family.

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    1. Yeah he never protested enough. I think he was a size 12. Which seems about right I guess. But as you say, not mentioned in court! Infuriating. I know Ray Clark admitted he never even asked Richard if he was guilty!

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    2. Oh don’t get me started on this, it’s the flimsiest of evidence, they deliberately misled the jury, which is disgusting.
      They had no expert witness, can you imagine?
      DiMeo is thorough, she knows what she’s doing and her conclusions can’t be ignored. Of course all this is hidden from the public, and the Avia myth grows.

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  32. […] Shoe Prints-so called shoe print expert Gerald Burke presented misleading and incorrect information regarding the Avia shoe prints. The evidence did not support Burke’s conclusions; Avia shoes were not a rare commodity in the Los Angeles area.  […]

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  33. This case has really stuck with me and i’ve been thinking about it a lot. I do think that majority of the crimes he has been convicted with, were not even committed by him. But I remember that he did say that 70% of the Philip Carlo book was correct, however 30% was “bullshit”. (or something along the lines of that) I also saw a letter in which he said, that he liked hurting women but never enjoyed hurting children. Do you think that he is completely innocent or only on some charges?

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    1. I don’t know if we are thinking of the same letter, but the only one I’ve seen where he supposedly mentions hurting children is typed and not handwritten by him. It also didn’t make sense: he talked about letting one child go, but ALL of the children were let go in the abduction cases attributed to him. The only child who was not let go, was Mei Leung, and you might have read what we thought about that case! No women who knew him have ever mentioned inappropriate or creepy behaviour, much less seeing a sadistic hurtful streak. Half this stuff is made up by those who collect killer memorabilia for money and attention, in my opinion. You never see letters where he directly admits to anything and from what I’ve heard, politely declined to talk about anything to do with this alleged crimes.

      I think when he said 75% of Carlo’s book was correct, he means his family background (which is corroborated by them in their 2004 statements), and the trial and post-trial stuff. He was indirectly saying the murder stuff isn’t correct, I believe. (Weirdly I just read that letter the other night!)

      I guess we will never know whether he did them or not, or knew the person/people who did it and was keeping quiet. All we know is there was reasonable doubt; serious reasonable doubt. Thanks for your comment!

      Edited to add: I also read a claim that he admitted to loving popping Asian women’s fingers out of joint, but considering none of the Asian Night Stalker victims suffered dislocated fingers, this can also be consigned to the Bullshit Bin!

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    2. We never say he was innocent, we show there was reasonable doubt and that the case against him wasn’t proven and that the trial was lop-sided and unfair.
      The story goes that it was an open and shut case, weighed down by overwhelming evidence. You can clearly see that’s not true.
      As Venning says, the letter you refer to makes absolutely no sense at all, and seems written my someone who didn’t know the intricacies involved. “I once let a child go” surely indicates scant knowledge.
      Have you read our articles on these subjects yet? You’ll see what we mean if you do.
      Thanks for reading and for your comment, we appreciate it.

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      1. thank you guys for your reply’s! I do think you’re right.

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      2. You’re welcome, thanks again for reading what we’ve got to say.

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  34. […] the exact model of the shoe and that thousands of shoes could have left the same impression. See Shoe Print post for further […]

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  35. […] the exact model of the shoe and that thousands of shoes could have left the same impression. See Shoe Print post for further […]

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  36. […] Carrillo talks about the “unique” Avias: model […]

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